seriously ? the concept of tier one troops one starring max th9/10 is ok just cause so many use bam barch ? then why were hogs nerfed so many times in so many ways... this is the same... so those of you barchers who were ecstatic on hogs nerfs now face the same... & this was pretty much obviously coming...Originally Posted by HeliSmith
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Vikky, the concept of tier 1 troops 1-starring maxed TH9/10s is not ridiculous... they can get 1-star with only 50% damage to the base. There is a different motive here by Supercell with this move.
HeliSmith, I believe you are somewhat answering your question without realizing it. Barch is not overpowered. How many people can use barch to consistently 2-star TH9s and TH10s with even a moderately decent trophy layout? Not many. This troop is far from "overpowered." It's the most cost-efficient for farming, and it's by far the most popular option.
The reason Supercell is further hindering barching's effectiveness is not b/c they're worried that it's the strongest option: it's b/c Supercell has a ♥♥♥♥ poor league bonus system that rewards 100% bonus for 1-star attacks, and they don't want players being able to farm league bonuses in Masters/Champs leagues with 50% barch attacks. As far as SC is concerned, you are able to acquire the same amount in league bonus resources from using the cheapest, quickest army up in masters/champs, than if you used a cost-heavy, time-heavy army (using the latter would lead to players needing to boost barracks). If they simply fixed the broken league bonus system, these changes wouldn't even be necessary.
Last edited by Goobers; December 10th, 2014 at 06:51 PM.
Like I said before update is having no effect on me. matter of fact Im getting more loot then ever with ease. im going neo on this game son.
Yes, and everyone else will to
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I think this was a necessary evil to slow dragons.
As it was pre-June(ish), Clan Wars should have been named Hog Wars, now, its Dragon Wars.
Out of the last 20 attacks on my base in war, no more than TWO attacks have been anything other than 9-11 dragons.
If you get offended, I don't care. Mass dragons is a lazy, uninspired attack and now clan wars should be livened up a little. You literally have to do nothing more but to drop your dragons and just watch the carnage. No strategy, no scouting required, just drop and watch. This update was actually perfect timing, because I was looking to quit clan wars for good - there was no point in improving a base when regardless of what you do you get hit by dragons exclusively.
The detriment is barching or baming isn't as lucrative, but it really does FIX a significant problem in clan wars.
Last edited by YourBoyAce; December 11th, 2014 at 04:41 PM.
How this update will affect mass dragons?! High tier troops don't care if they get shot 4% of hp per shot or 2% of hp but twice as fast. This archer tower update only affect tier 1 troops.
It will work the same way that teslas do - dragons with low health get finished off faster freeing up defenses to hit other dragons, the archer tower switches targets faster resulting in a greater output of damage overall
In sum, Target switching and quicker finishing off of weak dragons (the first dragon in range gets shot first) are the two mechanisms at play here. It's less likely at any given area of the war base to have a low hp dragon flying around hitting non defensive structures.
one caveat: raged dragons may be able to destroy the archer tower before it gets shots off which actually could result in LESS damage in some circumstances, but when you consider the entire map, overall, more damage is done to dragon attacks.
This makes for a better argument for the Moat base
Last edited by YourBoyAce; December 11th, 2014 at 05:03 PM.
I don't even know where to start. Dude, you completely misunderstand this. Speed of killing dragons with new archer towers is the same. Only difference would be when dragon will have health slightly more than dps of archer tower. That difference would be half a second!
You can start by upgrading your teslas and seeing this concept for yourself.
You completely ignored the target switching point because you don't know how to argue against it.
The speed is actually increased slightly due to the fact that an archer tower will now be able to get X amount extra shots off at the moment of killing a troop, before being destroyed itself.
Edit/PS: You admitted it yourself. That half a second difference. And you are right, it is close to a half of a second. But you need to think big picture here. How many archer towers do you have in your base? Each one of them hypothetically gets that extra half second difference. Finally, some base layouts will see this effect get exaggerated more than others. But the effect will still be there.
Last edited by YourBoyAce; December 11th, 2014 at 05:15 PM.
Farming at Gold1/2 currently so not alot of level 12 or 13 archer towers...
I have not really feel the impact of the change yet... Will be doing clan war attack tomorrow and will properly check up if gowiwi is really affected by it..
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