Don't make elixer only used for level 9 walls!!! here's why

[Mr4nthonyy]

Frankly, I do agree with the OP.

One, things in life change for the good and bad. Upgrading walls with elixir was a blessing, though I didn't heavily rely on elixir for walls, it still came in handy when trying to get them out the way quickly when you have no elixir to spend on anything else. Me personally, my elixir is always sitting high no matter what. It's the gold that I have to work hard for to keep up, especially since I do my best to upgrade many things at once.

Two, people seem to always have this mindset that change isn't good. ORIGINALLY, I feel the wall update was really good before (yes, even starting at level 6 walls), simply because it put our elixir to better use. Why is that people think "I went through it so they have to go through it too" in life? I didn't have a drill at TH7 and had to work so hard for that barbarian king, but you know what? Why be bitter and upset that SC finally brought a drill to TH7s now? Like, you got yours the old fashioned way and that's great, but people can't just, dare I say, be happy people can better get their base upgraded. So what that SC brought the ability to upgrade walls with elixir now but you didn't have it back when you were a TH7/8? The experienced players get sooo bitter and for what? Even with this new update (even though I hate I was in the middle of upgrading walls to level 8 just to get thrown off now since I can't evenly disperse my loot where needed), we affected by it have to accept change...since it was done to fix the economy...sure.

Three, the economy. If it's TH10's complaining about loot, what do affecting TH7's or 8's gotta do with them? Your loot penalty is so heavy (50% of available resources...so 7% of what's in our storages and 25% of what's in our collectors) if y'all tried to raid us, we should be the least of your concerns. Mind you, the TH9's still potentially have the ability to still spend "extra elixir" on their walls to level 9 and 10...sooooo where exactly does the balancing come in with that? I mean, there is a cap regardless, and even TH9's get a penalty raiding us (though I know miniscule in comparison to TH10's). TH9's can still get 280K in gold/elixir from us if we have about 2.2 million in our storages of the respective resource anyway; and I don't know where y'all be looking, but I see plenty of TH8's and TH9's with wonderful loot in those abandoned collectors (TH10's too!) But I'm sorry, I'll bite my tongue, because last thing a TH9 or 10 would wanna see is a TH8 talking about they see good loot...but I mean...if I see em I know y'all got to see em too sometimes.

BUT I DIGRESS. Point is, people weren't open minded, so the louder party got their wish. All we can do (us affected by it) is just live with it. 500K per wall isn't that bad for me, but now I can't just upgrade my walls alongside my defense upgrades since I do mass upgrades. But hey, my defenses are almost done so eh. I guess if the economy "goes back up", they'll keep the the wall change at level 8 going into level 9 walls. If things don't change, then I guess we can speak up and get it back the way it was (though by then, it probably won't even affect me, but it's not just about me).

PS: All you experience people were in our places at one point, and at one point I know for a fact you may have loathed those price of walls when you first saw them. You handled your business though and I won't knock you for it, since it wouldn't make sense to. But you should understand the struggle regardless...you get it how you get, and if people were getting their walls by elixir then good for them. Shrug...let people do their hustle.

[Gama321]

Frankly, I do agree with the OP.

One, things in life change for the good and bad. Upgrading walls with elixir was a blessing, though I didn't heavily rely on elixir for walls, it still came in handy when trying to get them out the way quickly when you have no elixir to spend on anything else. Me personally, my elixir is always sitting high no matter what. It's the gold that I have to work hard for to keep up, especially since I do my best to upgrade many things at once.

Two, people seem to always have this mindset that change isn't good. ORIGINALLY, I feel the wall update was really good before (yes, even starting at level 6 walls), simply because it put our elixir to better use. Why is that people think "I went through it so they have to go through it too" in life? I didn't have a drill at TH7 and had to work so hard for that barbarian king, but you know what? Why be bitter and upset that SC finally brought a drill to TH7s now? Like, you got yours the old fashioned way and that's great, but people can't just, dare I say, be happy people can better get their base upgraded. So what that SC brought the ability to upgrade walls with elixir now but you didn't have it back when you were a TH7/8? The experienced players get sooo bitter and for what? Even with this new update (even though I hate I was in the middle of upgrading walls to level 8 just to get thrown off now since I can't evenly disperse my loot where needed), we affected by it have to accept change...since it was done to fix the economy...sure.

Three, the economy. If it's TH10's complaining about loot, what do affecting TH7's or 8's gotta do with them? Your loot penalty is so heavy (50% of available resources...so 7% of what's in our storages and 25% of what's in our collectors) if y'all tried to raid us, we should be the least of your concerns. Mind you, the TH9's still potentially have the ability to still spend "extra elixir" on their walls to level 9 and 10...sooooo where exactly does the balancing come in with that? I mean, there is a cap regardless, and even TH9's get a penalty raiding us (though I know miniscule in comparison to TH10's). TH9's can still get 280K in gold/elixir from us if we have about 2.2 million in our storages of the respective resource anyway; and I don't know where y'all be looking, but I see plenty of TH8's and TH9's with wonderful loot in those abandoned collectors (TH10's too!) But I'm sorry, I'll bite my tongue, because last thing a TH9 or 10 would wanna see is a TH8 talking about they see good loot...but I mean...if I see em I know y'all got to see em too sometimes.

BUT I DIGRESS. Point is, people weren't open minded, so the louder party got their wish. All we can do (us affected by it) is just live with it. 500K per wall isn't that bad for me, but now I can't just upgrade my walls alongside my defense upgrades since I do mass upgrades. But hey, my defenses are almost done so eh. I guess if the economy "goes back up", they'll keep the the wall change at level 8 going into level 9 walls. If things don't change, then I guess we can speak up and get it back the way it was (though by then, it probably won't even affect me, but it's not just about me).

PS: All you experience people were in our places at one point, and at one point I know for a fact you may have loathed those price of walls when you first saw them. You handled your business though and I won't knock you for it, since it wouldn't make sense to. But you should understand the struggle regardless...you get it how you get, and if people were getting their walls by elixir then good for them. Shrug...let people do their hustle.

Provide a quote from SC saying the reason for the change was th10 loot or whatever it is you were arguing

[Mr4nthonyy]

Provide a quote from SC saying the reason for the change was th10 loot or whatever it is you were arguing

I can't quote SC saying it, but around the forum...I see it's majority of experienced players stating elixir was hard to find or loot in general. SC stated their reason for changing it anyway (which was based on user input), which I stated in my post about fixing the economy from apparent elixir shortages.

My argument is simply that, I feel it wasn't as "unbalanced" as it was made to be. My arguments were, people do seem to get bitter when new things are brought to assist the lower leveled players, though I can understand why, it come off a little selfish if they're always worried about what can benefit them [experienced players]. Things can be added for both spectrums to benefit all, but it is what it is.

[KingOfSaints]

Then use the elixer to build a better army that you can use to raid storages
or what i did when i was a th8 sitting on maxed storage of elixer all the time was push as high as i could and when i ran out of elixer i dropped trophies, got some more and restarted the cycle all over again
you got tons of elixer, use it for something that will help you

[Mr4nthonyy]

Then use the elixer to build a better army that you can use to raid storages
or what i did when i was a th8 sitting on maxed storage of elixer all the time was push as high as i could and when i ran out of elixer i dropped trophies, got some more and restarted the cycle all over again
you got tons of elixer, use it for something that will help you

You have a point, but I have no issues farming any loot whatsoever. It's just the elixir accumulates after a while but I do see your point. But, saying that also goes back to the thing I said above when people have the mindset that "They didn't have a certain option so we shouldn't either/They did it so so can we". I hope that's not coming off rude, as I'm not trying to be, but I just still can't understand the current update dilemma.

I work for whatever I want anyway, so upgrading walls with just gold isn't mission impossible for me, but times changed, and it was a heck of a lot more convenient to have 3 Wizard Tower Upgrades going at the same time and spending some elixir to upgrade walls on the side. But eh. Change of plans.

[Iismail1907]

So you won't be able to upgrade to skulls after the update?

[Mr4nthonyy]

I work for whatever I want anyway, so upgrading walls with just gold isn't mission impossible for me, but times changed, and it was a heck of a lot more convenient to have 3 Wizard Tower Upgrades going at the same time and spending some elixir to upgrade walls on the side. But eh. Change of plans.

So you won't be able to upgrade to skulls after the update?

I've answered that question before you asked. And I have a good handful of level 8 walls already. Point is, I feel like we were given a right to use elixir to upgrade walls, but when people used that right, somehow it was considered "abused" and/or "over-used". It boggles the mind. [If I can find the post where I saw someone say they felt people abused it, I'll gladly quote it when I find it.]

[Gama321]

I can't quote SC saying it, but around the forum...I see it's majority of experienced players stating elixir was hard to find or loot in general. SC stated their reason for changing it anyway (which was based on user input), which I stated in my post about fixing the economy from apparent elixir shortages.

My argument is simply that, I feel it wasn't as "unbalanced" as it was made to be. My arguments were, people do seem to get bitter when new things are brought to assist the lower leveled players, though I can understand why, it come off a little selfish if they're always worried about what can benefit them [experienced players]. Things can be added for both spectrums to benefit all, but it is what it is.

I'm pretty sure SC doesn't do updates solely based on what users say, otherwise everyone would have a million gems, war opt out, heroes in war etc.

Surplus elixir in th8 isn't a cause for concern as you are only there for a month with just one level of wall to do at 112.5 million, th9 has 1 billion needed to max walls, same as th10, and you will spend several months there with nowhere to spend elixir.

Personally I would like it to be just lvl11 walls to be upgraded with elixir as that is what I'm doing, but looking objectively (something only those who already have full lego can do), I can say it makes perfect sense to only allow it for th9+ walls.

In the end SC got it wrong the first time and fixed it later, that's all. Quoting random people saying they didn't like it means nothing. Also following your argument why shouldn't you be able to do it from th2? Is it because you are a th8 and only care about doing skulls with elixir?

[Mr4nthonyy]

I'm pretty sure SC doesn't do updates solely based on what users say, otherwise everyone would have a million gems, war opt out, heroes in war etc.

Surplus elixir in th8 isn't a cause for concern as you are only there for a month with just one level of wall to do at 112.5 million, th9 has 1 billion needed to max walls, same as th10, and you will spend several months there with nowhere to spend elixir.

Personally I would like it to be just lvl11 walls to be upgraded with elixir as that is what I'm doing, but looking objectively (something only those who already have full lego can do), I can say it makes perfect sense to only allow it for th9+ walls.

In the end SC got it wrong the first time and fixed it later, that's all. Quoting random people saying they didn't like it means nothing. Also following your argument why shouldn't you be able to do it from th2? Is it because you are a th8 and only care about doing skulls with elixir?

OK First off, if you read my original reply, I clearly stated it can be put back to level 6 walls. Do not come for me in such a manner because unlike the experienced people, if lower levels got the chance to upgrade walls with elixir, I would not complain. Like what? I'm TH8, forget what I was doing before TH8, all that matters to me in my mind is focusing on my now. I'm not gonna moan because TH7 got drills now and I didn't. I'm happy for them! Please don't try and make me seem selfish because I'm open to a lot of things and there could have been many compromises or alternatives.

[Gama321]

OK First off, if you read my original reply, I clearly stated it can be put back to level 6 walls. Do not come for me in such a manner because unlike the experienced people, if lower levels got the chance to upgrade walls with elixir, I would not complain. Like what? I'm TH8, forget what I was doing before TH8, all that matters to me in my mind is focusing on my now. I'm not gonna moan because TH7 got drills now and I didn't. I'm happy for them! Please don't try and make me seem selfish because I'm open to a lot of things and there could have been many compromises or alternatives.

I'll say it again, why do you not argue that th2s should be able to upgrade wall with elixir, and more importantly why do you think they cant at the moment?
Also this comment just shows your bias, you are only concerned with what benefits you and not the overall gameplay