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Thread: Don't make elixer only used for level 9 walls!!! here's why

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    U can use ur excess elixir and do some heavy raiding and plus with new lvl collectors and an extra drill it will be easier and faster to reach TH9. Lok at the big picture 😊

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    Yes exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zmeteg View Post
    I have to strongly agree with OP.

    The reason for lack of raiding at TH6/7 isn't lack of elixir. It's lack of gold. I recently went from maxed out TH6 to TH7. When I was maxing out TH6, I was sitting at 2 mil elixir for weeks. The reason for this is simple. Without elixir wall upgrades, you need about double the amount of gold than elixir to max out.

    The only sources of both resources that add into the economy are collectors, mines and win rewards, which produce both at the same rate. You have to end up with lack of gold in the economy eventually. Yes you spend elixir on troops, but with surplus of elixir in the economy you loot more of it than gold anyway.

    Either way you end up with lack of gold or surplus of elixir. Neither of which are fixed by removing the ability to upgrade walls with it.

    The only time people have decent stockpile of gold to loot is when they are saving for a bigger upgrade. If they spend all their gold on level 7 wall upgrades at 200k a piece, you will never end up with a stockpile worth looting. Meanwhile their elixir stockpile is huge because there is nothing to spend it on, since beside wall upgrades, the elixir and gold demands for other upgrades are more or less the same.

    So instead of giving me a reason to raid a village with a lot of elixir and no gold, which would be allowing to upgrade walls with it is, this change does the exact opposite. So even more elixir around, but nothing to spend it on. You're lowering the demand, not increasing the supply.
    Now is back to raiding for gold and ignoring those elixir storages. I save a ton of elixir anyway when farmin. And when trophy push I still get way more than I spent.


    I feel so bad for lower bases now. At least level8 walls with elixir makes more sense than level9. 500k is a lot. I wasn't gonna do my level 8 walls if it wasn't for the last upgrade. I'm glad I'm done because I would be so upset now.

    And all the people that don't follow the news or updates before they come out willbe so mad and with reason. I know some of my clanmates and friends are upset some are almost all maxed w their level 8 walls but some just started and their th is all maxed except walls.

    I don't even update walls on my noob accounts. I have two th8 but w level 6 walls n they will stay like that walls are too expensive anyway n specially now with no elixir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrancheyez View Post
    That's a bad arguement, who want's to wait hours to build gowipe every time they want to raid? Your argument is flawed majorly. I agree with this post, 100%. Elixer is going to be full 100% of time.
    Good, i will be able to take a break from barching...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxionXD View Post
    Perfect, more elixir for me to raid!
    Haha yup...

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    If you aren't getting plenty of elixir already or it's not piling up then you are doing something wrong. Even with barching. Go wipe or gowiwi. Even with gobarch. I still get more elixir. But really I'm not complaining about raids lol there is plenty lots of loot. With abandon bases or w bases w storages full. People shouldn't complain about looting. It's more what u can do with that loot. Now people won't have the choice of using it for their walls.

    People are annoyed that they had to used gold like I did too for all our walls. I was personally think walls are just overrated but they do look nice. Level 9 are expensive but level 10 are ridiculous.

    So either supercell wants to please the maxed players that got annoyed and upset or they want people to use more gems again for their walls just like those maxed players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailpp View Post
    For those of you that are saying this will help the loot on your raids I think it won't really changed a lot. There is plenty of elixir and gold to raid. You guys just need to take your time and search. Even before the wall elixir upgrade u wouldn't al aye find elixir or gold right away if u didn't keep searching.

    This is a weird update though. Supercell gave us probably all you guys that are saying its a good update. The ability to upgrade our walls w elixir and now that we are done we don't want other people to benefit from it. Probably those th10 that have been here forever complained a lot. But they can't even update anything.

    I'm on th9 going on th10 in few days. My walls are almost all level 9 so this won't affect me at all. But it is surely unfair for tons of flashers that wanted to upgrade or had planned to upgrade their walls w elixir.

    Elixir just sits there for a long time and you can't do anything with it once ur in th8 and u finish ur upgrades like troops n camps n barracks. Then what u still upgrading ur defenses and the rest of the stuff which take way more time and gold. While ur elixir is sitting. And elixir isn't that important coz of that. I always raided for gold coz I was full w elixir. Then I looted for elixir too.

    Who here upgrades there level 9 walls to 10 or 11 those walls are ridiculously expensive. Only gemmers or maxed th10. I know I won't do level 10 till in maxed 3m is too much is better to spend it on defenses than one wall
    I don't agree that only gemmers can afford level 10 walls, but you are right about one thing- your walls are only as good as your defenses behind them. That being said I agree, max your troops, defenses, anything you can, who wants to spend 3 mil on a block? Here's why-once you max your stuff the Elixer just collects anyway with nowhere to go exept raid costs. That is why the update will allow upgrades on level 9, 10, and 11 walls. Also, you need 2 Maxed Wallbreakers to penetrate level 7, 8, and 9 walls. You need that 3rd maxed wallbreaker to get through level 10 Lava walls. There are a lot of us grind through level 9 walls without gemming. That being said, the lava walls are absolutely necessary to defend a TH 10 once you grind through to Champions. At that rate I can probably squeeze out 4 level 10 blocks per week raiding, or less.
    at the rate I'm going I'll probably finish lava walls by Christmas 2016-LOL
    im not real crazy about electric walls as I do believe guys that have those most likely gem because this game ain't that old.-peace
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcpg View Post
    I'm TH8. I am a very active player - I raid a lot.

    The problem is I am going to have NOTHING to do with elixer.

    There is a bottleneck on what I can spend elixer on - barracks, troops, laboratory and a few one offs here and there.

    I already have more elixer than I know what to do with!

    I'm going to be sitting on max elixer with nothing to do with it other than wait for someone to raid and take it. And now elixer is going to be easier to get.

    This is a horrible, horrible idea.

    If you HAVE to do this, then give us a second laboratory. The laboratory was already the bottleneck in advancing and now you made it way worse.
    i agree there is a point which elixer gets built up too high. However, I think using for walls is an elemental flaw in reference to resources applied to units/builidings. Should we be able to use gold to upgrade heroes or fill infernos? Also, this bottleneck affect allows for people to get good raid when more is available. I had an idea i posted a while ago saying we should be able to plant shrooms, trees, bushes etc with elixer then we could at least harvest gems. Tree could cost like like 20k, plus i like to create a fence with stumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcpg View Post
    I'm TH8. I am a very active player - I raid a lot.

    The problem is I am going to have NOTHING to do with elixer.

    There is a bottleneck on what I can spend elixer on - barracks, troops, laboratory and a few one offs here and there.

    I already have more elixer than I know what to do with!

    I'm going to be sitting on max elixer with nothing to do with it other than wait for someone to raid and take it. And now elixer is going to be easier to get.

    This is a horrible, horrible idea.

    If you HAVE to do this, then give us a second laboratory. The laboratory was already the bottleneck in advancing and now you made it way worse.
    Stop being selfish. If it was handled this way it will be harder to get elixir. Think about others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcpg View Post
    I'm TH8. I am a very active player - I raid a lot.

    The problem is I am going to have NOTHING to do with elixer.

    There is a bottleneck on what I can spend elixer on - barracks, troops, laboratory and a few one offs here and there.

    I already have more elixer than I know what to do with!

    I'm going to be sitting on max elixer with nothing to do with it other than wait for someone to raid and take it. And now elixer is going to be easier to get.

    This is a horrible, horrible idea.

    If you HAVE to do this, then give us a second laboratory. The laboratory was already the bottleneck in advancing and now you made it way worse.
    th9 need a lot of elixir, if you have so much go there

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    dont be selfish.. well i think it will really help the community, since it will prevent abusers of the wall upgrade. and it will really help you in wars since wars convert elix to gold.

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