Ranks Plus Customizable Properties

[Dan93]

I believe supercells time would be better spent working on other things. Although it would be atleast kinda nice, it is not necessary. Please dont go on another one of your talks explaining. I get it and all of my points still apply. Thank you.

[Gama321]

The purpose is to suppress spys from other clans or simply jerks who like messing with clans for no reason.
That was my main reason.
Secondly it could let people choose new powers to give to the clanmates without making new ranks.

You make a very good point about allowing leaders to run their clans how they want, which is a good enough reason to have more ranks. But the thing is most of the problems that clans are currently faced with can be easily solved by making good use of the existing framework, and adding more ranks has the potential to make things more complicated. Making it more complicated would be highly detrimental to those who are already unable to deal with the current framework, so more ranks may simply be counterproductive.
In the end simpler is better, only make things complicated and add more ranks if it is necessary and i personally don't think it is.
But as i said i understand where you are coming from, just don't agree with you, more ranks is a discussion worth having.

[capuchin13]

It's not adding more ranks. It's manipulating the powers granted to each of the ranks already provided. Simple.

[icey567]

Your saying that the ranks should have customizable abilities, or at least the current ones. Thus suggesting that there should be ranks where the leader or co-leader can customize the rank's abilities. That's proposing new ranks. So I get what you're trying to do, but I disagree that it's necessary.

[capuchin13]

No. You reworded it to sound different and you even came to the wrong conclusion afterwards.
It's altering currently created ranks.
Not creating new one but instead giving the option to have individual powers.
to be considered as a new rank, it needs to be given a title, plus some quality to go with it.
Since the only difference between each rank will be who can kick who, it won't be considered a new rank.
If you were a captain or a major or a sergeant you would likely have unique jobs but still maintain that rank. The rank just indicates how high up you are on the ladder. Giving a major additional responsibilities does not change the fact that he is still a major.
The end.

[Coloradokiwiboy]

No. You reworded it to sound different and you even came to the wrong conclusion afterwards.
It's altering currently created ranks.
Not creating new one but instead giving the option to have individual powers.
to be considered as a new rank, it needs to be given a title, plus some quality to go with it.
Since the only difference between each rank will be who can kick who, it won't be considered a new rank.
If you were a captain or a major or a sergeant you would likely have unique jobs but still maintain that rank. The rank just indicates how high up you are on the ladder. Giving a major additional responsibilities does not change the fact that he is still a major.
The end.

Listen. If you want someone to be able to send a clan mail or invite and kick, you give them the rank that is appropriate to that. You do not create a new rank, crippling the system and making it so that it relies on countless ranks to work with people you don't nessescarily trust.

Member is for a member of the clan who is helpful enough not to be kicked or is maybe quite new and still hasn't had time to prove themselves.

Elder is for a person who has spent a considerable amount of time with the clan or is maybe a irl friend or its an all elder clan. People are given elder to help regulate the clan and recruit. Both abilities must be present for this rank to work.

Co leader is for an extremely helpful, been here a long time/ maybe founded the clan with sort of person. Or a irl friend. Co leader basically exists because the actual leader has a real life as does everyone else in the clan and may need help regulating the clan and basically keeping it functioning. Co leaders exist to help make sure that the clan constantly functions perfectly, even if an elder decides to go rogue. The co leader will help make sure that no problems arise from any crisis that elders can not sort or are not to be trusted in. Co leaders exist to regulate when no one else can.

These ranks depend on each other for a well running clan. Customising ranks or throwing them out of balance in any way could potentially ruin the system as things would go askew from drastic shifts of power.

Changing names for different ranks I could understand. It would make the game customisable to a hopefully satisfiable point, giving each clan an individual flavour. A shift of powers however, would be counterproductive, shifting the power to an unsustainable point. Those are my reasons why not to make ranks customisable. Please read carefully, and consider all aspects equally.

[capuchin13]

Actually I still maintain some order.

You come in with all the properties of a solo player.

Then you get promoted to member.
elder, co leader, leader can kick you
maybe I trust you enough to promote you to elder.
Co leader and leader can still kick you.
maybe you are really active and have donated over 1000 troops and get 3 stars in wars so I trust you enough to promote you to co leader.
I can still kick you.

There still is a system in place. The clan castle properties is what is being given and taken away, nothing else.

Again, the system in place is fine as it is. This is simply suggesting a method to get around people who take advantage of the system or who skrew up somewhere and start kicking clanmates.
if you start saying that you shouldn't have been put in that situation to begin with then this probably doesn't apply to you. If you don't care about what happens to the clanmates who were victims of the unprovoked kicking and undeserved promoting. Then this might not apply to you.
Just because you have your methods with your clan, that doesn't mean that it will work for everyone.
This work around will simply allow for the reassigning of privileges to individual ranks. (If needed) by no means is it required.
but if you wanted to... for example (clan that clan wars frequently)(communicate via clan mail)(restrict kicking privileges to leader only)(prevent members from requesting troops) you could alter your clanmates privileges to better customize your clan.

[icey567]

Actually I still maintain some order.

You come in with all the properties of a solo player.

Then you get promoted to member.
elder, co leader, leader can kick you
maybe I trust you enough to promote you to elder.
Co leader and leader can still kick you.
maybe you are really active and have donated over 1000 troops and get 3 stars in wars so I trust you enough to promote you to co leader.
I can still kick you.

"Then you get promoted to member" thus adding an extra rank. The basic rank of a solo player is added, and being promote to member. Thus insinuating that being promoted to member means there is a new rank added.

[capuchin13]

No. When a new person joins someone's clan, it has a "new" title as there rank. That title goes away after awhile.
what I was stating was what everyone has as of now.

[Xzayler]

First of all, I did search and this was the only thread which corrisponded to the parameters I entered.

Better clan management is something that should be improved upon in CoC. For some reason, most social features are planned and developed with yound children in mind or something because a lot of things are too automatic.

I totally agree with the OP, there should be customisable ranks. This works well and is something I also saw in other games.
If this feature would be implemented, it wouldn't change for the clan Leaders who like the current ranks, but it would help for those who need it.

However I also have some arguments against. Currently there aren't too many things even a Leader can do.
-Invite, kick, start war, edit clan, promote/demote, send clan mail.
These are just a few things and the combination of these is pretty limited. So customisable ranks would be kind of pointless because of the lack of things a player can do in a clan.

Overall it isn't anything urgent but it should be considered also keeping in mind that a clan could be organised way better in the game itself.