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Thread: New idea for zapping defense (this is different, trust me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiFliya View Post
    Although its not one hundred percent. Its pretty much close to that. Keeping the Anti-Zapping threads up top, also means that the Pro-Zappers and the SuperCell stance on it at the top too.

    You haven't addressed the Issue of the War base though. Storages aren't protected from Th8 and lower, so the AD will substitute the DE instead. imagine mass drag (one of the only reliable war strats for Th7 and early th8) being crippled by having the AD protected by the Lit Rod. Of course you could have rage/heals instead but none are really that effective as taking out one of the biggest threats to your raid before even starting.
    First of all, until there is an OFFICIAL stance on this (for instance, in the ruled out ideas), you are making assumptions about what supercell wants. Make them all day long, YOU have no authority to change anything or speak on supercells behalf.

    You other paragraph is actually a legitimate response (WOOO!!), and I'll happily talk about it with you. It's a good point, and I think the easiest thing to do is just not have this function of the TH work during clanwars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog241 View Post
    The reason I like this idea is because it will offer a trade off. Protect your DE in exchange for no free shield. You gain something but loose something else. How is that not fair?
    No it largely eliminates a trade off that already exists.

    It only seems fair when defined by a very limited set of parameters. When taken into context with the rest of the game and how it is currently played, it provides higher town halls with a pretty substantial advantage with no real negatives. This increases even further the advantage that higher THs in lower leagues already enjoy.

    You're trying to create a scenario with two equally likely outcomes where the reality is much different. The probability that a high level TH will be flattened by another high level TH in a low league is virtually 0. You're basically trading exposure to a very likely event (being zapped) for an extremely unlikely one (being steamrolled) and saying that somehow it presents a fair trade off (it doesn't). While at the same time eliminating the actual trade off which is easy loot in exchange for DE loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog241 View Post
    First of all, until there is an OFFICIAL stance on this (for instance, in the ruled out ideas), you are making assumptions about what supercell wants. Make them all day long, YOU have no authority to change anything or speak on supercells behalf.
    I don't understand. How is this not an official response?

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSteve[Supercell] View Post
    There are no plans to change this right now.

    It's annoying, but all in all not a very profitable or efficient strategy.

    Get revenge, three star their base!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog241 View Post
    First of all, until there is an OFFICIAL stance on this (for instance, in the ruled out ideas), you are making assumptions about what supercell wants. Make them all day long, YOU have no authority to change anything or speak on supercells behalf.

    You other paragraph is actually a legitimate response (WOOO!!), and I'll happily talk about it with you. It's a good point, and I think the easiest thing to do is just not have this function of the TH work during clanwars.
    Lol You missed that then. Proof that you didn't read the other's posts as it was already mentioned by one of the Pro-Zappers. Either that or you deliberately picked apart his argument to argue what you could at the time.

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    First this thread is funny, if you do not like being zapped for a ton of DE keep it low. If you do get zapped there is a way to deal with it. Called revenge. Take the guys bases and make it ashes.
    Now, as for being in the ruled out thread, this means next to nothing in the end. In the last update they made the clans search engine much more dependable by adding a number of peramiters. If you look in the clans section of ruled out ideas it says that this exact thing was ruled out. Thus nothing is neccessarily ruled out permanently.

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    I'm pretty sure stacking buildings is ruled out...plus this idea doesnt even need to happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahimi View Post
    I don't understand. How is this not an official response?
    Because all he said is there are no plans to change it, NOT that it's ruled out which is what everyone has been trying to claim. It's very dishonest, and something that simply prevents any kind of conversation. Stop misrepresenting what people have said. This idea is NOT in the ruled out ideas section for a reason, and you lot don't speak for supercell no matter how much you claim to.

    As for you other post, at the moment you are correct that high lvl TH are more likely to be zapped then steamrolled. But the only reason is because their TH is left outside. If they put their TH inside that would change 100%. Because whereas before their base would only sit in the que for 5 min before a TH snipe, now it will sit there for hours. And eventually another large TH will come along and get to their storages. This really should be obvious, the longer you sit in the que the more likely you are to get squashed. When you log off to sleep for 8 hours does it really matter if your attacked after 5 min or 3 hours? Nope.

    Btw, I can speak to this from personal experience. I was in the 1600 trophy range with my TH inside a few weeks ago, and I would get demolished all the time. I moved it outside and I'd just get zapped. The change is very organic and natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog241 View Post
    Because all he said is there are no plans to change it, NOT that it's ruled out which is what everyone has been trying to claim. It's very dishonest, and something that simply prevents any kind of conversation. Stop misrepresenting what people have said. This idea is NOT in the ruled out ideas section for a reason, and you lot don't speak for supercell no matter how much you claim to.

    As for you other post, at the moment you are correct that high lvl TH are more likely to be zapped then steamrolled. But the only reason is because their TH is left outside. If they put their TH inside that would change 100%. Because whereas before their base would only sit in the que for 5 min before a TH snipe, now it will sit there for hours. And eventually another large TH will come along and get to their storages. This really should be obvious, the longer you sit in the que the more likely you are to get squashed. When you log off to sleep for 8 hours does it really matter if your attacked after 5 min or 3 hours? Nope.

    Btw, I can speak to this from personal experience. I was in the 1600 trophy range with my TH inside a few weeks ago, and I would get demolished all the time. I moved it outside and I'd just get zapped. The change is very organic and natural.
    We never claimed to speak for supercell. We are just quoting Steve on SCs stance on Zapping. Hence a stance from SC in general. Although it is not verbatim, it is essentially ruled out for now. If they have no plans for this right now, what'a changed since the post was originally made?
    Also, farmers, which was also an "organic and natural" evolution of the game would never pass up a free 12 hr shield in place if DE that is easily raidable. Your idea so far is only profitable for anti-zappers an trophy pushers. There's no balance that I see whatsoever. The most we could get ou of your idea is one lightning strike near you th. Not enough to take out defenses or anything. You're just crippling the spells use. Also, another point, while vastly outdated, what about the lower ths that zap cc troops? They are then condemned to either lure the cc with their limited number of troops and waste time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahle View Post
    First this thread is funny, if you do not like being zapped for a ton of DE keep it low. If you do get zapped there is a way to deal with it. Called revenge. Take the guys bases and make it ashes.
    Now, as for being in the ruled out thread, this means next to nothing in the end. In the last update they made the clans search engine much more dependable by adding a number of peramiters. If you look in the clans section of ruled out ideas it says that this exact thing was ruled out. Thus nothing is neccessarily ruled out permanently.
    A: If Super Cell chooses to rule out an idea, that is up to them.

    B: It is also up to them, if they decide to implement the idea at a later time.

    C: 'B' does not give us an excuse to post ideas that have been ruled out. If they've been ruled out, obviously Super Cell has seen them. There is no reason to bring it up again.

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    Just a bit of I out..,zapping is not a low league/lower th only problem. I'm th 9 and get zapped by th 9 and 10 the same as 7/8. It's dumb since I can pretty much get it back in a revenge against 8-10, but stop thinking this is only something weaker players do.

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