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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba061 View Post
    They are uncommon now because of the loot penalty. Take it away and higher THs will find it worthwhile to revenge more often.

    As for the sniping, players would miss it as a lot of farmers would suffer. Not the hardcore players, but casual ones who rely on shields.
    Most people who leave their town hall out do not depend on shields. They depend on the fact that people snipe and leave, and don't touch the loot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba061 View Post
    Again, you are STILL assuming the revenge climate would be identical to how it is now. If the loot penalty is removed, revenge becomes are far more viable option.

    Right now you might only have 5 targets worth revenging so of course it's likely they are online or have shields. But with no loot penalty for revenge, even casual players will be more liable to peruse their entire revenge list on a daily basis rather than looking at a select few who would be worthy of their time. You are SIGNIFICANTLY increasing the pool of potential revenge attacks, which by far favors higher THs and offers zero benefit to lower ones. TH7s and TH8s would be the ones hurt most by this.

    You now present a difficult situation for lower THs. Not only do they have to worry about normal attack from a higher TH, but now they have to be cautious even when sniping a higher TH. This limits the pool of attacks to equal or lesser THs for them. Higher THs would be able to flock to lower leagues where they would be able to dominate.

    Bear in mind, I'm saying all this as someone who is about to upgrade to TH9 in the next 10 days. So this would be a great benefit to me, but for the game as a whole the effects would be catastrophic.
    While I agree that revenging is almost impossible, Removing the loot penalty is really just penalizing the lower Ths for wha cking a higher TH. In the sense that people who climb the leagues by sniping, it opens the gates of hell for them by sniping someone potentially 3-4 TH levels higher than them. The defenses would never stand a chance against a full fledged army for their loot. Sniping is beneficial for both attacker and defender, so removing that loot penalty just shifts the balance towards the defender whenever he chooses or is able to revenge the original attacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denrochee View Post
    I once tapped revenge for two straight hours, while someone was online (I was shielded at the time and they had good resources and cups, I took a 15 minute break and they had gone from Online to shielded just like that. Revenging isn't hard due to lack of resources on available targets.
    Except that you were stalking ONE guy. Imagine if your entire list was filled with potential targets. Now, I'm not sure what league you play in, but assume you are a TH9 or TH10 in Silver or Gold that probably gets sniped a lot by TH7s and TH8s looking to push to Crystal.

    Well guess what? Out of those 50 or so targets, you are very likely to find someone who isn't online or doesn't have a shield. You don't even have to build a special army for revenge now. You could easily overrun these lower THs with a farming army and get the full available resources with little cost or effort on your part.

    Do you see the problem here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1 View Post
    Most people who leave their town hall out do not depend on shields. They depend on the fact that people snipe and leave, and don't touch the loot.
    Agreed, but everyone needs to sleep or has work/school I assume. We can't all be on all the time. I break shields frequently, but if I have a shield that will ride out while I sleep or I'm busy at work, then that shield is very beneficial to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba061 View Post
    Except that you were stalking ONE guy. Imagine if your entire list was filled with potential targets. Now, I'm not sure what league you play in, but assume you are a TH9 or TH10 in Silver or Gold that probably gets sniped a lot by TH7s and TH8s looking to push to Crystal.

    Well guess what? Out of those 50 or so targets, you are very likely to find someone who isn't online or doesn't have a shield. You don't even have to build a special army for revenge now. You could easily overrun these lower THs with a farming army and get the full available resources with little cost or effort on your part.

    Do you see the problem here?
    (just saying, but i think its time for a new thread concerning your idea to not muck up this guys barrier for zapping thread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiFliya View Post
    (just saying, but i think its time for a new thread concerning your idea to not muck up this guys barrier for zapping thread)
    Haha. We wouldn't want to get off topic from zapping, now would we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba061 View Post
    Haha. We wouldn't want to get off topic from zapping, now would we?
    Lol never Personally, all zapping threads are starting to look the same to me. Its the same arguments over and over again. If they made a sticky for it, it will just turn into a bloodbath between the two radical sides of the argument. No one would concede and being the internet, no one will change their mind until SC steps up and says something regarding Zapping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiFliya View Post
    Lol never Personally, all zapping threads are starting to look the same to me. Its the same arguments over and over again. If they made a sticky for it, it will just turn into a bloodbath between the two radical sides of the argument. No one would concede and being the internet, no one will change their mind until SC steps up and says something regarding Zapping.
    Frankly, I think what it boils down to is sore losers who don't like their loot stolen. It boggles my mind how people get bent out of shape over so little taken.

    I got zapped today for 300 DE. Whoopty-freakin'-do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba061 View Post
    Frankly, I think what it boils down to is sore losers who don't like their loot stolen. It boggles my mind how people get bent out of shape over so little taken.

    I got zapped today for 300 DE. Whoopty-freakin'-do!
    If you were zapped for 300 dark elixer, and you can raid 6% of the loot in the storage, how much dark elixer could be raided from your storage lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobro View Post
    If you were zapped for 300 dark elixer, and you can raid 6% of the loot in the storage, how much dark elixer could be raided from your storage lol?
    Lol last time i got zapped, he took 200 from me, Im more peeved at the TH9s with max giants and AQ that take 700-1000 from me considering im upgrading defenses atm and level 5 archers are in the oven so no where to drop DE unless i do an all Valk raid

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