New matchmaking and game difficulty

[PedroLee]

Thanks for pointing that out. Pedro probably has an established base, that's why he isn't worrying...

I have 2 accounts both pretty much unestablished. 1 with all skull wall. Other is intended for art but needs a lot of farming and where I'm at, I have unlimited supply. My pro account is upgrading pumps so it doesn't need to farm as much. I was able to max my walls with the very bad update (2.73) where all hope seems lost and refunds were given to some players. And I shared what I did woth my Farming 101 thread which hit almost 40k views. This update is not even close to how bad that update was but I maxed my walls (prolly 150mil) in a week (after ranting in this forum for 3 days straight like you guys). Now, why am I finding this game so playable when you aren't?

I respect all the whines and thing. My reply is not to despute you. I am asking questions to help. Because by knowing few things it would be easier to provide a solution than with just complaints said over the forums.

[Ridd1ck]

Your rants mean nothing. Do you even read what you're saying? Wow. You are holding so dearly to your 1300 trophy because you THINK you worked hard for it. Before you call names, learn your facts. Learn your game. Adapt. Innovate instead of just whine all day that the game is hard for you when it just got better for the vast majority.

And if you think the whiners are the "vast majority" then you are ttally way over your head... Gie it a day or a week and read this reply and scratch your head with a smile...

I don't THINK the whiners are the majority, I SEE IT. You however are sitting on your fail horse choking on your air of arrogance calling everyone noobs.

Don't push your arrogant rant about adapting, its really moronic.

I'd like to think the trophies were hard earnt, however if your suggesting they mean nothing, then whats the point of holding trophies at all.

I love a challenge, and if the matchmaking made it more challenging I wouldn't be here reading your fat head posts. However when attacking levels above or at your level is only yielding 5k gold and elixir and get 30 trophies I don't see how that is a fair reward.

People dropping trophies is what Supercell should have avoided at all cost, cus now people have deliberately screwed the matchmaker just to find fairer/easier matches.

Pitiful update made for all pedro fanbois.

[Ssimon64]

Seriously guys ...

Drop cups to some 500 count or lover, build up your village, and go sleep for 3 days and you will be back on your 1500 count.

I make 1000 cups over the night got damn ... When you will start to work IRL, you will also have to adopt. If you won't, competition will eat you alive. And those who adopts first, gets the most.

That is all just so unnecessary. I don't want to drop trophies and then spend several days building them back up. A better idea would be to just go back to how it was. It worked fine.

[Samscott83]

I have 2 accounts both pretty much unestablished. 1 with all skull wall. Other is intended for art but needs a lot of farming and where I'm at, I have unlimited supply. My pro account is upgrading pumps so it doesn't need to farm as much. I was able to max my walls with the very bad update (2.73) where all hope seems lost and refunds were given to some players. And I shared what I did woth my Farming 101 thread which hit almost 40k views. This update is not even close to how bad that update was but I maxed my walls (prolly 150mil) in a week (after ranting in this forum for 3 days straight like you guys). Now, why am I finding this game so playable when you aren't?

I respect all the whines and thing. My reply is not to despute you. I am asking questions to help. Because by knowing few things it would be easier to provide a solution than with just complaints said over the forums.

Hi Pedro,

Lets see how you go once you get more than 300 trophys, everyone can farm... Get to 2000 cups and see if you black walls help you find resources.

Until then let the guys who are actually playing not Farming have their opinion, it is a forum after all.


Sam Scott

[billwinkiesbear]

My opinion... probably not worth much but here goes.

If you are having difficulty it is due to the fact the Trophies were easy to come by (pre upgarde) until you hit the Walls... The wall meant you needed to upgrade to get by it... They are virtual by they did exist

Easy may be the wrong term and no offence is intended by it...

However what this created was an issue in that you have more trophies than your base/Level can support...Now the match making change it matching you with stronger oponents because of your high trophy count....ACCEPT IT

Anyone who has played this game for any length of time appreciates that the game is about longevity. The upgrade times for example.. the costs to acquire the upgrades...

Seriously Drop some trophies... 200-300 and see the game you love return... Whilst there Upgrade and come back stronger dont rush to be at the TOP becuase if you do you will NEVER make it unless you have Cash to burn.

[PedroLee]

So the argument is settled. All of you don't want to let go of your "hard earned" trophies. Which is the major issue. Good luck to your gaming.

[TheChopster]

So this update is due to the lower levels moaning that they were getting raided? I believe we were all low levels at one point getting our ♥♥♥ raided and guess what? We got through it, worked hard and became the raiders, it's part of the learning curve of the game and half the fun. Now what are we left with? no resources to loot and being able to attack maybe twice a day? At the minute my shield is on whenever it can be to protect what little resources remain. So the fun factor that remains for me is watching my elixir upgrade take 4 days to complete? I might as well play Farmville.

If I do decide to drop my trophies then I'm going to spank the hell out of the low levellers which takes us full circle as to why they were moaning in the first place.

[DeathKnell]

Aaa aw Pedro, I liked your farming post and actually tried it out with the intent of gaining resources and giving back to the farming community by sharing too. I like the idea of you being a loveable tree hugging hippy with the whole share and share alike ideal and respect you for that, but I like war too. The reason I dropped my level was to try and gain enough elixir to make more war. Currently this objective is being defeated by a serious resource imbalance. Every time I want to attack and gain trophies am I expected to lose 1k or 2k trophies so that I can use weaker armies then try and rebuild my trophies again? Or am I to expect to continuously purchase gems so that I can afford the stronger armies necessary to in a higher level attack? I like fighting higher levels, they're challenging and this is where I want to fight. I think either making armies considerably cheaper or balancing resources at higher trophy levels is absolutely necessary with the current state of gameplay.

Imagine that once you've done farming Pedro and built everything you can build that you would like to start fighting and gaining trophies, would you then consider it fair that you have to either lose trophies to gain resources to attack, or constantly purchase gems to trade for elixir? People are entitled to play their own strategy, if one strategy is balanced around having to lose trophies when trying to climb the rankings then it obviously isn't working for one set of payers. They shouldn't be classed as whiners for voicing their opinions.

Kriaze S A V A G E level 66 Town Hall 9 and 2011 trophies (currently but subject to change =])

[P4TR1C14N]

Ok... i had yesterday evening time to play and checked out the match making system.

To be honest... i don't see a big difference with before. It's not faster, not slower. I do see a small change in opponents proposed but not that much.

In short... i don't see a difference. This might be because i adapted my strategy to not play at the trophy level i should be but somewhat below it. This purely to be able to farm more.

Do i like the matchmaking mechanism? Nope... not at all. The way how ppl are matched is just not the correct way for this game, plain and simple. But ok... it is as it is so i'll have to live with it.

The fact that every change is mainly triggered by money greed, is also what you can expect, so i don't need to complain about that. If they want to ruin their long term profits, so be it.

What ennoys me more is the fact that the AI is not that good and they don't make considerable improvements on that side. Things as archer shooting walls when they shouldn't, wall breakers going to wrong walls in certain case, the way how defence structures decide to shoot which target first. It's all so basic and limited...

The fact that Supercell doesn't realize or want to realize that something is really wrong with the 'pvp' design, is maybe the biggest concern. If the pvp system was better designed, people wouldn't have to drop trophies etc...

So far my 2 cents.

[billwinkiesbear]

So this update is due to the lower levels moaning that they were getting raided? I believe we were all low levels at one point getting our ♥♥♥ raided and guess what? We got through it, worked hard and became the raiders, it's part of the learning curve of the game and half the fun. Now what are we left with? no resources to loot and being able to attack maybe twice a day? At the minute my shield is on whenever it can be to protect what little resources remain. So the fun factor that remains for me is watching my elixir upgrade take 4 days to complete? I might as well play Farmville.

If I do decide to drop my trophies then I'm going to spank the hell out of the low levellers which takes us back full circle.

DO IT!!! - I dropped from a steady 2200 to..... (Not zero)... but the fun returned.... And you are correct... when i was lvl20 i recall saying

"♥♥♥ i was just wiped out by a dude 30 lvls higher than me.... I WANT LEVEL 5 ARCHERS THEY KICKED MY ♥♥♥"