View Poll Results: Should Hero troops be available for war attacks while upgrading?

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Thread: Poll - Allow hero troops to be available in wars while upgrading or not

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    bump

    I want to see this happen, let's get some more votes in here people

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrmac04 View Post
    bump

    I want to see this happen, let's get some more votes in here people
    Don't bump threads, please.

    It would not make sense for the hero to be available for attack during war: Your hero is asleep on your altar. Your spell factory isn't available for war attacks while being upgraded. If a barracks is being upgraded, you cant use that for war. How is the hero different? If we were to add this, we might as well make another lab for hero upgrading (Which is ruled out) because if your hero was available for war, it would have to be available for regular attacks, AND that would also make it be available for regular defense. Then if that were added, people would beg;
    "Please make defenses available to use when upgrading! They are available in war, and the heroes are also available, so why aren't the defenses available while upgrading?"
    If you are annoyed that you cant use your hero, stop constantly upgrading him. Upgrade it one week, use it the next week.

    P.S. Don't worry. I added a vote to your poll.
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    rather than making heroes available for war only, make them available while upgrading.
    Seriously, we pay over 100k dark elixir just to take our heroes out of commission for a few day for only a few additional damage and health which is barely noticeable.
    The heroes should be available for everyday raiding wile upgrading like the clan castle can still be used to request troops while upgrading

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    It would definitely make sense to make heroes available for use in attacks while upgrading seeing as how they work on defense along with defensive buildings. If you're hero levels make a difference in the match making system (which they do) they totally should be usable in attacks too. Currently it gives gemmers too big of an advantage over those of us who to it legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dread View Post
    rather than making heroes available for war only, make them available while upgrading.
    Seriously, we pay over 100k dark elixir just to take our heroes out of commission for a few day for only a few additional damage and health which is barely noticeable.
    The heroes should be available for everyday raiding wile upgrading like the clan castle can still be used to request troops while upgrading

    So true! When you have well over a years worth of hero build time you should be able to use them. For many players their heroes are down more than they are awake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome View Post
    Don't bump threads, please.

    It would not make sense for the hero to be available for attack during war: Your hero is asleep on your altar. Your spell factory isn't available for war attacks while being upgraded. If a barracks is being upgraded, you cant use that for war. How is the hero different? If we were to add this, we might as well make another lab for hero upgrading (Which is ruled out) because if your hero was available for war, it would have to be available for regular attacks, AND that would also make it be available for regular defense. Then if that were added, people would beg;
    "Please make defenses available to use when upgrading! They are available in war, and the heroes are also available, so why aren't the defenses available while upgrading?"
    If you are annoyed that you cant use your hero, stop constantly upgrading him. Upgrade it one week, use it the next week.

    P.S. Don't worry. I added a vote to your poll.
    I appreciate both sides of the debate. I appreciate your opinion, but there is a difference between the hero troops and a spell factory clearly since you upgrade the spell factory once per town hall. Your comparison is really weak since there are 4 barracks... so you are saying you can't use any troops in war for offense because you are upgrading a barracks. Apples and oranges my friend... sorry that you got annoyed, but the feeling is mutual.
    Last edited by patrmac04; November 8th, 2014 at 06:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darktitan View Post
    It would definitely make sense to make heroes available for use in attacks while upgrading seeing as how they work on defense along with defensive buildings. If you're hero levels make a difference in the match making system (which they do) they totally should be usable in attacks too. Currently it gives gemmers too big of an advantage over those of us who to it legit.
    I am not saying to take it that far where you can use the troop while it is upgrading. I see the value there and a potential revenue stream for Supercell that they would not want to give up... so I don't see that happening. I don't however see a business justification for not having the troop available for war.

    Supercell is motivated to have people purchase gems, so I respect that. I think it could have people more motivated to buy gems to upgrade hero troops if they can use them for wars... win win as far as I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darktitan View Post
    It would definitely make sense to make heroes available for use in attacks while upgrading seeing as how they work on defense along with defensive buildings. If you're hero levels make a difference in the match making system (which they do) they totally should be usable in attacks too. Currently it gives gemmers too big of an advantage over those of us who to it legit.
    This is part of the problem that I did not think of until your post. The strength of opponent is calculated in part to the level of hero. This is not directly from Supercell, but from what I read this is true. If the hero used in calculating the strength of opponent can not be used in wars, it does affect the team upgrading hero troops with a handicap that is a bit unfair.

    Good post, thank you... here is the write up on how matches are calculated.

    http://clashofclans.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Wars_FAQ

    How is strength calculated in clan wars?

    Strength is based on each member’s attacking power (troops, army camp capacity, spells and heroes) and defensive strength (defense buildings, walls, traps and heroes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome View Post
    Don't bump threads, please.

    It would not make sense for the hero to be available for attack during war: Your hero is asleep on your altar. Your spell factory isn't available for war attacks while being upgraded. If a barracks is being upgraded, you cant use that for war. How is the hero different? If we were to add this, we might as well make another lab for hero upgrading (Which is ruled out) because if your hero was available for war, it would have to be available for regular attacks, AND that would also make it be available for regular defense. Then if that were added, people would beg;
    "Please make defenses available to use when upgrading! They are available in war, and the heroes are also available, so why aren't the defenses available while upgrading?"
    If you are annoyed that you cant use your hero, stop constantly upgrading him. Upgrade it one week, use it the next week.

    P.S. Don't worry. I added a vote to your poll.
    Around 260 days to upgrade heroes spell factory once per town hall 3-5 days. Now I'm not lookin forward to stay in our of war for almost a year ...

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    agreed

    I don't really think you guys understand. Not to offend supercell in any way, but this is how they make money. People buy gems to spend it on stuff like this. I'm sure they don't view this as a problem. I totally agree that this SHOULD happen, but I don't think it ever will.

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