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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKaz View Post
    Dude you need to stop worrying about SuperCell and whatever amount of money they are making. That is none of your business and is COMPLETELY their business. A business is ALL about making money, PERIOD. That will NEVER change. It has nothing to do with greed here. SuperCell isn't trying to be greedy, they are trying to make a cool game for people to enjoy playing and it's a tremendous challenge.. not to mention an ever evolving challenge. In order for the game to stay interesting, they have to change things and add content which will ultimately have an effect on the game and it's gameplay. They do their best to make necessary changes that will help and be good for the game but that may not always be the case, once again, it's a tremendous challenge and no one/no company/no game is perfect. They work hard to keep the game as balanced as they can when implementing updates and changes, adding new units/structures/spells/TH levels/etc., you have to believe that whether you like it or not.

    The last thing Supercell wants to do is go backwards. They're not about putting out an update and then just backing those updates out because a portion of their player base are dissatisfied. The only time this sort of thing really happens generally is if they release a seasonal update around the holidays or whatever and then they change the game back shortly after that holiday or season ends. An example would be in the winter when they update the game and snow collects on your structures and the trees, logs, etc. in and around your base. Then spring comes along and they update the game and the snow stops because it's not winter any more. Or right now with all the pumpkin related things popping up around our bases and tombstones which will surely stop before long I anticipate. They'd rather look at the change (let's say changing lvl6 walls and up being able to be upgraded using elixir) and determine if to their satisfaction it's having the desired effect on the game or if to them (the creators of the game in the first place) something isn't working as intended and may need to be adjusted or perhaps as a last resort, be changed back to the way it was before.

    Let's not forget, people used to lament that walls were such a pain in the higher levels to upgrade because they're so expensive and that it was hard to farm enough gold for them or that their elix storages would always be full and they had nothing left to upgrade with their elixir but they were still struggling to get enough gold to not only finish updating all their super expensive defenses but also their walls! Personally, although it clearly wasn't a perfect, satisy everyone fix, they gave everyone (with lvl 6 walls and up) a way to make it easier to upgrade their walls without putting so much stress and emphasis on needing so much gold. People get so dramatic and are so ridiculously disrespectful at times as if Supercell is sitting around scheming for ways to just completely ruin their good thing they have going on here, all in the name of being the most greedy they can possibly be. People who feel this way need a reality check, that is ridiculous. They want this game to be super fun and popular so that as many people as possibly can enjoy it and hopefully that will lead to more people getting into the game and in return, most hopefully generate lots more money for the company, which is a GOOD thing!! The more money they make the better they can support the game, come up with awesome updates, test them out first to make sure they have a positive impact on how gameplay will be once the update is released, etc.

    Thank you Supercell for making this one of the most fun games I've ever played, you guys do great work.
    Oh so you are The Great SuperCell Prophet and are here to tell us of SuperCell's good deeds and their honest intentions?
    It's painfully obvious recent updates have been geared, not towards a better game as you claim, but to fatten sc's wallet. That's fine in and of itself, but their machinations of greed have caused a game that is simply not playable at higher levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
    Holy wall of text.... I've edited it down to just talk about this specific aspect of your post. You mentioned going backwards, but how about all of the nerfs they've done over the past year? Witches, hogs, heroes....all nerfed, in other words, moving backwards. Sometimes moving backwards is the best way to go.

    You crack me up with this statement "something isn't working as intended and may need to be adjusted." In SuperCell speak that means:

    *Let me simplify this for you... It's called balance. With good game makers, balancing is an ongoing process throughout the life of the game. You seem like an educated enough person, I'd think you'd be more understanding of this. You are entitled to your opinion and point of view, negative or positive.*

    It's a business, don't ever think otherwise.
    Well at least we agree on that basic point.. I think we're separate in the fact that I like to think positively and optimistically and I gather you are the opposite. It's all good sir. Be as you want to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordAmbreon View Post
    Oh so you are The Great SuperCell Prophet and are here to tell us of SuperCell's good deeds and their honest intentions?
    It's painfully obvious recent updates have been geared, not towards a better game as you claim, but to fatten sc's wallet. That's fine in and of itself, but their machinations of greed have caused a game that is simply not playable at higher levels.
    If supercell is doing nothing but bad deeds and is thoroughly dishonest, do you really think this game would be as fun and popular as it is? Do you really? I'm enjoying the updates thoroughly as I enjoy the game thoroughly.

    If it's getting to a pure and simple sickening point for you, why the heck are you still playing? For real? You're still playing? If it's soooo bad and Supercell is soooo greedy, why are you still playing or even on the forums, for real??

    That's what I'm curious about.

    If I were you and felt the way you seem to, I can say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't spend another second playing the game or ever going on this forum again. Just like that, I'd move on to better things that I enjoy more and/or have a higher affinity for.

    But you.... you linger... but for what reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
    I bet you if we sat down with the developers and had a beer, we would love them. I'm sure they are very good people. And your point about happy customers is spot on, that's why I'm so confused at what SuperCell is doing here with this latest update.

    And please notice I didn't call Steve a "liar." I said it was "bad information." Again, I'm sure I'd really like Steve if we met in person, but the fact is that they told us one thing that got everyone extremely excited and it was wrong.

    And I never ignore the fact it's a free game...I constantly post that before December I use to spend money every month. I chose to spend because I truly believed they cared and were giving us a great product. I don't believe that anymore so I will continue to voice my frustrations and if they fix it...I will start breaking out the credit card again!

    The ONLY reason I complain is because this was such a great game and the number of people playing it proves that. If I thought there was no hope, I'd just quit.
    Yeah my interest has certainly gone down as well, but that is mainly because there isn't left to do at TH10. Its more of a game design issue than a loot issue, but hitting next certainly doesn't help.

    I wasn't trying to call you out for the Steve quote, just thought it was odd you thought that was a significant moment. I used to spend some gems too, to speed up builds when my loot was overflowing, or to gem barracks when attacking was really fun and profitable. I'm surprised by some of there moves as well. I'd love some insight in to what they see as the problems/solutions, but unfortunately we really don't know.

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    There is absolutely NO WAY that you did 150 lava walls in a month. I'm a th 10 with a 670 million gold grab, and I could never get near that. That's 5 lava walls EVERY DAY, even though it is the summer. Farming 15 million a day is literally impossible and improbable unless you had all barracks boosted and only slept around 6 hours every night. However, I haven't found too much of a loot issue.

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    It's funny that people think that loot is fine because they like to barch for 50% win. /yawn... This game blows if that's what sc believes we should all be doing to progress. The entire concept of loot in this game needs an overhaul.

    To to those people that say loot is so good, why don't you think about it from other players perspective. If your strategy works and makes you happy, why do you believe everyone should play exactly the way you play? Personally, barching and nexting is so boring and it might be the only way to get loot right now, but that doesn't mean that loot is fine. Try farming with other army builts, let's see how much profit you make them, and please make sure to consider all of the sinks, like rearming traps etc when you get raided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKaz View Post
    If supercell is doing nothing but bad deeds and is thoroughly dishonest, do you really think this game would be as fun and popular as it is? Do you really? I'm enjoying the updates thoroughly as I enjoy the game thoroughly.

    If it's getting to a pure and simple sickening point for you, why the heck are you still playing? For real? You're still playing? If it's soooo bad and Supercell is soooo greedy, why are you still playing or even on the forums, for real??

    That's what I'm curious about.

    If I were you and felt the way you seem to, I can say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't spend another second playing the game or ever going on this forum again. Just like that, I'd move on to better things that I enjoy more and/or have a higher affinity for.

    But you.... you linger... but for what reason?
    I never said they only do bad deeds. I said their recent updates have been geared towards increasing profits, not sustaining playablility.

    I'm not playing, I quit.

    I linger because I've easily put 300+ hours into this game and that's enough for me to stay on the forums.


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    i went up from gold 1 to crystal 2, but all i found there were bases with 20-40 k pink and elixir after clicking countless times "next" button i drooped back to gold 1, at least few 100k s in there

    but seriously, the reason why the loot is so bad right now is because everyone that log outs spends their resources on walls

    as a result they log out with 200 k pink and elixir so there are no bases to raid because almost everyone doing this
    maybe an good solution would be to let us steal 100 % loot for bases under 200,000 elixir and gold

    as then there would be no more hiding by spending the cash on walls

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKaz View Post
    If supercell is doing nothing but bad deeds and is thoroughly dishonest, do you really think this game would be as fun and popular as it is? Do you really? I'm enjoying the updates thoroughly as I enjoy the game thoroughly.
    Um hello, lol!! That is why we are here. No! It's barely playable a lot of the time. So no, it's not as fun. And people are quitting too.

    The ONLY reason I feel most of us are sticking around, for now, is we have so much time and or money involved plus we hold out hope they will fix it.

    But that's a pipe dream. I mean cmon, this thread with its loot is good title is still out here for all to see. Nothing like proving us "negative" people right with obvious bias. Positive titled loot thread lives for days. Negative one gets merged with the trash can loot thread. If they were at least going for the impression of impartiality they'd change the title to reflect where this thread has gone because it's nit about how great the loot is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawid4 View Post
    i went up from gold 1 to crystal 2, but all i found there were bases with 20-40 k pink and elixir after clicking countless times "next" button i drooped back to gold 1, at least few 100k s in there

    but seriously, the reason why the loot is so bad right now is because everyone that log outs spends their resources on walls

    as a result they log out with 200 k pink and elixir so there are no bases to raid because almost everyone doing this
    maybe an good solution would be to let us steal 100 % loot for bases under 200,000 elixir and gold

    as then there would be no more hiding by spending the cash on walls
    Yup. I mean, it's so obvious what started this Avalanche of trouble. Lix for walls. Elixer used to be all over and people could build whatever army they wanted to hunt for the scarce gold. Now, you almost have to gem. The armies needed to get into th 10's take Lix and time. And they are, usually, the only bases I come across holding decent amount.

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