I need help with balloonion!!

[federerfan]

You will need at least lvl 3 minnions but focus on getting them to five!!!!

[Benson822175]

Hey guys thanks for coming to this thread to hopefully help me out.

I am currently at th9 and all of my defenses are maxed except 3 cannons and that mortar we just got. When I have maxed defenses I want to get my king and queen to level 15 before I upgrade my town hall to 10. They are both level 10 right now and if I only upgraded one at a time non stop they would take 60 days to finish. I currently farm at gold 2 and it is very good for gold and elixir and is average in dark elixir. I could probably get enough dark to keep one hero upgrading at a time but I heard that there is a lot of dark elixir in crystal 2 and 3.

My question for you guys is do you think that if I used balloonion (because it isn't as dependent on heroes as giant/healer) in crystal 2 or 3 league would I be able to keep both of my heroes constantly upgrading until level 15?

I was thinking 20 balloons and 60 minions with 5 barbs and 15 archers to deal with the clan castle. I would bring 1 lightning 1 or 2 heal and 1 or 2 rage. Could this army keep both my heroes upgrading or do you think I would need more balloons? I would prefer to keep the training time under 30-40 minutes but if I have to go higher than that to keep them both upgrading then I will. Oh by the way, I have both my drills at level 6 so they are bringing about 5k a day as well.

Please don't say, "Use BAM or Barch it is way faster to train up". I don't want to use either of those since they are not capable of getting into the core of a base and it takes longer to find a collector base. It is a really effective strategy if you have to patience to search for a collector raid but I am not the patient type. Balloonion, to me, seems like a good balance of power, training time, and cost.

Thank you for your knowledge and advice helping me to get level 15 heroes.

I used 24 loons and 50 minions as a TH9. If you are only in crystal 2-3 you def dont need heroes. If you want both upgrading at the same time till level 15. You will need to be farming a lot of DE, good luck.

[victort]

i used balloonion myself, as well as bam..... i would not entirely discount bam for core raids...... that was what i kept my minions and rage spells for .....

as th9, i have 24baloon, rest minion, and carry 1 zap, 1heal, 2 rage... i often try to lure cc, and try the old, drop a balloon on them.... getting better at it... if not lureable, no problem, thats what spells and rageing minions are for...


i also mix a few hounds in these days... still trying them out ....

[TheMan131505]

I disagree with that. If 30 archers come out of a CC and you don't have lightning, you can basically forget winning that raid and getting any DE. Minions target CC troops 1 at a time, which means a pack of 40 minions will vanish when trying to attack a pack of ground troops. Lightning won't kill wizards, but it can help.



I've been farming DE for hero upgrades for many weeks, and this is what I do:

HEROES: I basically never use them, because they're upgrading.

SPELLS: 3 rage and 1 lightning. I try to only use 1 spell per raid, but sometimes it takes 2 or even 3.

TROOPS (loons / minis):

16/70 if I am trying to farm quickly. I've been using this around 2350-2450 for the past week after dropping down from masters.

20/60 if I'm away from phone for a while

24/50 or even 28/40 when I was up in Masters-3

CLAN CASTLE:

Use your CC proactively! You want minis and/or max loons in the CC. It is important to know whether you have 6 loons or 15 minis or some combination. If you cook only 16 balloons, it is nice to have another 6 in the CC.


More vs Less:

More loons gives you more opportunity to hit a TH10 with ITs, but takes longer. More loons also means you're more likey to win with 50% destruction.

Fewer loons means you've got to be really careful (and quick) with deployment. Have more minions gives you opportunity to pick off some outside buildings, but it also means you can watch a bunch of them go "poof" when they get hit by a red balloon or WT.


How much DE to target?

Look for a raid that'll give you at least 1500 DE.

Who to target?

TH9s as much as possible. TH10s if they do not have ITs, or if they're premmies, or just a total ♥♥♥♥ base design. Watch out for multi-ITs and lots of xbows pointed towards the sky.


How many raids per day?

Finally: to keep both king & queen upgrading non-stop from 10 to 15, you'll need approx 20k DE (profit) per day. Factoring in things like failed raids, hitting a big collector raid even though it has little DE, using DE for war, gaining DE from drills, you'll have to plan for around 15 raids per day.

Thank you. I might use 16 balloons after reading this. You seem to have a lot of experience with this strategy in a lot of different league levels. 15 raids a day will be no problem so hopefully my heroes will be level 15 in 30-40 days.

[gurimja]

Hey guys thanks for coming to this thread to hopefully help me out.

I am currently at th9 and all of my defenses are maxed except 3 cannons and that mortar we just got. When I have maxed defenses I want to get my king and queen to level 15 before I upgrade my town hall to 10. They are both level 10 right now and if I only upgraded one at a time non stop they would take 60 days to finish. I currently farm at gold 2 and it is very good for gold and elixir and is average in dark elixir. I could probably get enough dark to keep one hero upgrading at a time but I heard that there is a lot of dark elixir in crystal 2 and 3.

My question for you guys is do you think that if I used balloonion (because it isn't as dependent on heroes as giant/healer) in crystal 2 or 3 league would I be able to keep both of my heroes constantly upgrading until level 15?

I was thinking 20 balloons and 60 minions with 5 barbs and 15 archers to deal with the clan castle. I would bring 1 lightning 1 or 2 heal and 1 or 2 rage. Could this army keep both my heroes upgrading or do you think I would need more balloons? I would prefer to keep the training time under 30-40 minutes but if I have to go higher than that to keep them both upgrading then I will. Oh by the way, I have both my drills at level 6 so they are bringing about 5k a day as well.

Please don't say, "Use BAM or Barch it is way faster to train up". I don't want to use either of those since they are not capable of getting into the core of a base and it takes longer to find a collector base. It is a really effective strategy if you have to patience to search for a collector raid but I am not the patient type. Balloonion, to me, seems like a good balance of power, training time, and cost.

Thank you for your knowledge and advice helping me to get level 15 heroes.

[TheMan131505]

You will need at least lvl 3 minnions but focus on getting them to five!!!!

I have level level 3 minions and upgrading them to five would really slow my progress. Are they that much better or could I do well with level 3? I will do it if necessary but I think 70k would be enough for an upgrade so I am hesitant to do it.

[Saburai]

I am mid developed TH9 in crystal 2 (2300 cups) I use 20 max loons and 60 level 5 minions and do well. I actually got level 5 minions today, but i was doing fine with level 4. I make a good profit on DE, and if i didn't do constant war with gowipe as my primary strat, i would probably be able to have my heroes constantly upgrading.

[AdamBombX]

I use Balloonions all the time, Im currently pushing to Champs at th9 with Balloonions, and dont listen to non sence people are telling you these are the figures. 28 Loon, 40 Minions 3 Rage 1 Lightning. This works best on any th9 or below, if its th9 look for x bows pointed down, depending on the base design your either deploying loons on a V shape on the corner or in a straight line against one side, i use a couple loons to trigger the CC then a couple minnies to pull them to corner bunch them up and zapwith lightning, I deploy the balloonions like i said above but spread wide enough that they cover defncesive structures and depnding on the layout they will group togther and start moving in a pack then i drop the 3 Rage in triangular pattern to the townhall, when the loons first go down i put a line of about 20 mins down then save the rest to go up the middle towards the townhall, I highly reccomend watch a you tube tutorial, you can use this strategy to push all the way to hamps just avoid inferno towers unless your using hounds and freeze spells

[tomatosarenice]

Hey guys thanks for coming to this thread to hopefully help me out.

I am currently at th9 and all of my defenses are maxed except 3 cannons and that mortar we just got. When I have maxed defenses I want to get my king and queen to level 15 before I upgrade my town hall to 10. They are both level 10 right now and if I only upgraded one at a time non stop they would take 60 days to finish. I currently farm at gold 2 and it is very good for gold and elixir and is average in dark elixir. I could probably get enough dark to keep one hero upgrading at a time but I heard that there is a lot of dark elixir in crystal 2 and 3.

My question for you guys is do you think that if I used balloonion (because it isn't as dependent on heroes as giant/healer) in crystal 2 or 3 league would I be able to keep both of my heroes constantly upgrading until level 15?

I was thinking 20 balloons and 60 minions with 5 barbs and 15 archers to deal with the clan castle. I would bring 1 lightning 1 or 2 heal and 1 or 2 rage. Could this army keep both my heroes upgrading or do you think I would need more balloons? I would prefer to keep the training time under 30-40 minutes but if I have to go higher than that to keep them both upgrading then I will. Oh by the way, I have both my drills at level 6 so they are bringing about 5k a day as well.

Please don't say, "Use BAM or Barch it is way faster to train up". I don't want to use either of those since they are not capable of getting into the core of a base and it takes longer to find a collector base. It is a really effective strategy if you have to patience to search for a collector raid but I am not the patient type. Balloonion, to me, seems like a good balance of power, training time, and cost.

Thank you for your knowledge and advice helping me to get level 15 heroes.

Lightning's not necessary, just bring along another heal, as minions do a fine job of getting rid of CC troops. From personal experience 20 balloons is nowhere near enough on a base with decent air defenses, I'd recommend minimum 24 preferably 28 or even 32. You shouldn't need heroes so that'll be fine. I'd recommend bringing 3-4 heals and 0-1 rage spells.

You could also bring along 1-2 drags or 1-2 hounds, they're a huge help when it comes to tanking out air defenses but that depends on how much time you can wait for an army and how much elixir/dark elixir respectively you can spend.

[TheMan131505]

If I started throwing in dragons and lava hounds into the equation it would ramp up my price and wouldn't be farming any more. Plus it would increase the time to attack so I am sticking with 16-24 balloons. I'll experiment with different compositions but don't want to wait over an hour for my army.