I need help with balloonion!!

[TheMan131505]

Hey guys thanks for coming to this thread to hopefully help me out.

I am currently at th9 and all of my defenses are maxed except 3 cannons and that mortar we just got. When I have maxed defenses I want to get my king and queen to level 15 before I upgrade my town hall to 10. They are both level 10 right now and if I only upgraded one at a time non stop they would take 60 days to finish. I currently farm at gold 2 and it is very good for gold and elixir and is average in dark elixir. I could probably get enough dark to keep one hero upgrading at a time but I heard that there is a lot of dark elixir in crystal 2 and 3.

My question for you guys is do you think that if I used balloonion (because it isn't as dependent on heroes as giant/healer) in crystal 2 or 3 league would I be able to keep both of my heroes constantly upgrading until level 15?

I was thinking 20 balloons and 60 minions with 5 barbs and 15 archers to deal with the clan castle. I would bring 1 lightning 1 or 2 heal and 1 or 2 rage. Could this army keep both my heroes upgrading or do you think I would need more balloons? I would prefer to keep the training time under 30-40 minutes but if I have to go higher than that to keep them both upgrading then I will. Oh by the way, I have both my drills at level 6 so they are bringing about 5k a day as well.

Please don't say, "Use BAM or Barch it is way faster to train up". I don't want to use either of those since they are not capable of getting into the core of a base and it takes longer to find a collector base. It is a really effective strategy if you have to patience to search for a collector raid but I am not the patient type. Balloonion, to me, seems like a good balance of power, training time, and cost.

Thank you for your knowledge and advice helping me to get level 15 heroes.

[sparsin]

your minions can handle the cc by them selves, i was running 30 minions rest loons was fine champs are 15-16

[mmmk604]

I have lvl6 loons and lvl5 minions. I farm DE in Crystal 2 no problem.

I didn't really need heroes to get the extra few % until 2500+ trophies, but that's Crystal 1, where you aren't planning to farm anyways.

[TullSadum]

...you can drop the lightning spell, that's of next to no use when looning. Without AQ I tend to use more spells, but mostly will be fine by using only two. I have been trying out one heal and one rage ... it takes the same time to make these as it takes to train 28 balloons.
With AQ I can do well with just one rage, without I need a heal as well. On the whole rage is better than heal by far. But that is at M3 where I am now and the win bonus is nice.

At C3-2 I did well with barch only, I didn't get every dex storage, true, but dex accumulates nicely all the same, the higher frequency making up for that.

TS

[TheMan131505]

That is all I needed to hear. I will push up to crystal once my cannons are done. Thank you!

[TheMan131505]

...you can drop the lightning spell, that's of next to no use when looning. Without AQ I tend to use more spells, but mostly will be fine by using only two. I have been trying out one heal and one rage ... it takes the same time to make these as it takes to train 28 balloons.
With AQ I can do well with just one rage, without I need a heal as well. On the whole rage is better than heal by far. But that is at M3 where I am now and the win bonus is nice.

At C3-2 I did well with barch only, I didn't get every dex storage, true, but dex accumulates nicely all the same, the higher frequency making up for that.

TS

I want to lightning spell in case there are wizards in the cc. I don't care about archers since a falling balloon will kill them.

[perkunas]

...you can drop the lightning spell, that's of next to no use when looning.

I disagree with that. If 30 archers come out of a CC and you don't have lightning, you can basically forget winning that raid and getting any DE. Minions target CC troops 1 at a time, which means a pack of 40 minions will vanish when trying to attack a pack of ground troops. Lightning won't kill wizards, but it can help.



I've been farming DE for hero upgrades for many weeks, and this is what I do:

HEROES: I basically never use them, because they're upgrading.

SPELLS: 3 rage and 1 lightning. I try to only use 1 spell per raid, but sometimes it takes 2 or even 3.

TROOPS (loons / minis):

16/70 if I am trying to farm quickly. I've been using this around 2350-2450 for the past week after dropping down from masters.

20/60 if I'm away from phone for a while

24/50 or even 28/40 when I was up in Masters-3

CLAN CASTLE:

Use your CC proactively! You want minis and/or max loons in the CC. It is important to know whether you have 6 loons or 15 minis or some combination. If you cook only 16 balloons, it is nice to have another 6 in the CC.


More vs Less:

More loons gives you more opportunity to hit a TH10 with ITs, but takes longer. More loons also means you're more likey to win with 50% destruction.

Fewer loons means you've got to be really careful (and quick) with deployment. Have more minions gives you opportunity to pick off some outside buildings, but it also means you can watch a bunch of them go "poof" when they get hit by a red balloon or WT.


How much DE to target?

Look for a raid that'll give you at least 1500 DE.

Who to target?

TH9s as much as possible. TH10s if they do not have ITs, or if they're premmies, or just a total ♥♥♥♥ base design. Watch out for multi-ITs and lots of xbows pointed towards the sky.


How many raids per day?

Finally: to keep both king & queen upgrading non-stop from 10 to 15, you'll need approx 20k DE (profit) per day. Factoring in things like failed raids, hitting a big collector raid even though it has little DE, using DE for war, gaining DE from drills, you'll have to plan for around 15 raids per day.

[lsarofeen]

So if I could piggy-back onto this thread with a question of my own..

I am just a week off from not needing G/E so much and only prioritizing DE. I haven't been to Crystal, only as high as G1, where I readily find 1k DE which I can often Barch to get it..

Should I go to C3 or C2 to find greater access to DE?
Is the loot bonus a viable way to help stack DE?
Barch and/or Loonion?

If Loonion, what minimum level Minions for good success? My Minions are only Lvl1 but I could focus down some upgrades for them to quickly get to Lvl3. I've just never used them for war or farming up until this point. My Loons will be Lvl6 soon.

Any suggestions from experienced peoples?

[TurkeyBacon1999]

As a th 8 i am doing great with 24 balloons and the rest minions, have failed to get the dark ONCE and that was against a th 10 that had good cc troops. You should be fine- im using lvl 2 minions and lvl 5 balloons and 200 spaces.

[lsarofeen]

What trophy range and how much DE are you looking for/getting?