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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpino View Post
    i am not after an expensive defensive upgrade, I am just done with my expensive TH9 elixir upgrades. Would I pass on that base? No, because I am not stupid. But am I focusing on gold and dark elixir and not elixir? Yes I am.
    I hope you are joking up. Because if looks like you slept for last 2 months. Gold and Elixir in your case are equals. Unless you only want to upgrade your walls with gold. Fool you if that he case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klem70 View Post
    I hope you are joking up. Because if looks like you slept for last 2 months. Gold and Elixir in your case are equals. Unless you only want to upgrade your walls with gold. Fool you if that he case.
    No, gold and elixir are not equal in my case. I need to keep my builders busy, elixir does not help at all with this.

    See, I got a point across without name calling, it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpino View Post
    No, gold and elixir are not equal in my case. I need to keep my builders busy, elixir does not help at all with this.

    See, I got a point across without name calling, it can be done.
    I take your walls are maxed then?

    Never called you a name I said if you only used gold for walls that would be a foolish move. I reckon they are not many that do that. Shame people can not admit they wrong.

    End of day unless your walls are maxed Gold and elixir are equals. you can use both at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klem70 View Post
    I take your walls are maxed then?

    Never called you a name I said if you only used gold for walls that would be a foolish move. I reckon they are not many that do that. Shame people can not admit they wrong.
    I did not say I was only using gold for walls, you assumed that for some reason. I use my elixir for lab upgrades, which are ridiculously easy to save up for due to the long upgrade times (not to mention that I am also upgrading DE troops, most of which take 7 plus days). Any excess elixir goes in to my walls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpino View Post
    I did not say I was only using gold for walls, you assumed that for some reason. I use my elixir for lab upgrades, which are ridiculously easy to save up for due to the long upgrade times (not to mention that I am also upgrading DE troops, most of which take 7 plus days). Any excess elixir goes in to my walls.

    There you go you raiding for gold and elixir. Gold to do you defenses/walls and elixir do your walls.

    GPH was a phrase used before lava Dog update. It really means nothing now. Better call it Gold/elixir profit per hour. Latter means a lot more now in game.

    The OP posted said he used GPH because as a TH8 he wasted loads elixir and was not bothered about. most did that at as a TH8, before lava dog update. Elixir now as said before an equal to Gold.

    Plus you points in game where need that last 200-300k gold for an upgrade because you have a builder becoming free. Or elixir because lab about to finish research. But most times unless walls maxed and your elixir storage's full, you will be raiding for gold and elixir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klem70 View Post
    There you go you raiding for gold and elixir. Gold to do you defenses/walls and elixir do your walls.

    GPH was a phrase used before lava Dog update. It really means nothing now. Better call it Gold/elixir profit per hour. Latter means a lot more now in game.

    The OP posted said he used GPH because as a TH8 he wasted loads elixir and was not bothered about. most did that at as a TH8, before lava dog update. Elixir now as said before an equal to Gold.
    Gold can be used for defense and walls, elixir for only walls; they by definition are not equal, regardless of how many times you repeat yourself.

    And Just because I am not focusing on elixir does not mean I avoid it. I look at the gold and DE when I raid, and that is how I mostly decide wether or not I attack a base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpino View Post
    Gold can be used for defense and walls, elixir for only walls; they by definition are not equal, regardless of how many times you repeat yourself.

    And Just because I am not focusing on elixir does not mean I avoid it. I look at the gold and DE when I raid, and that is how I mostly decide wether or not I attack a base.
    I am quite a good raider. To me there are equal. Everyone allowed their opinion. You might look at gold and elixir, but you will hit for the elixir like you said earlier. So basically you look at all three, you just appreciate the gold and DE better.

    Looks there a massive difference between your gold and elixir you put into your walls. Well mine are at same ratio, so are equal.

    Earlier the main point I tried to make was. GPH is outdated. Has been now for 6-7 week's. Because even people do not admit they now will raid for gold and elixir equally, until one is maxed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klem70 View Post
    I am quite a good raider. To me there are equal. Everyone allowed their opinion. You might look at gold and elixir, but you will hit for the elixir like you said earlier. So basically you look at all three, you just appreciate the gold and DE better.

    Looks there a massive difference between your gold and elixir you put into your walls. Well mine are at same ratio, so are equal.

    Earlier the main point I tried to make was. GPH is outdated. Has been now for 6-7 week's. Because even people do not admit they now will raid for gold and elixir equally, until one is maxed.
    Personally i find the combined rate of gold and elixir per hour to be misleading.

    People before we're talking about raiding > 200k per raid of one resource. Now people are talking about raiding 200k in both resources and claiming that loot is good.
    Its a particular problem when people are comparing stats before the upgrade - which only happened a few weeks ago - to the situation now. Its like comparing apples to oranges.

    Furthermore my experience (and i can fully appreciate that this may not be your experience) of loot just before the latest update is that elixir is low in C2 and C1. To upgrade my walls gold was the loot i was looking for gold. Elixir to find armies and spells and DE is what i was actually looting for.
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    Loot could be sooooo much better if super cell would fix the wall breaker AI. With BARCH, hitting storages behind one wall is fairly simple, archers can shoot over it, and a wall breaker is okay on the first layer.... but I have been finding less loot, so I have tried doing more storage hits using BARCH but the HUGE problem is wall breakers are horrendous with an AI that has become a joke.

    Typical example... a base with full storages, should take four wall breakers to get to the compartment. So break off the first layer. Try sending the next pair straight through but wall breakers now circle the drain and must break all first layers? Then the third pair, then the fourth pair..... all they had to do was run straight from where they were placed to easily break the wall with the storage compartments, but they will not do that. Wall breaker AI needs to be fixed, it is stupid how dumb the wall breaker AI has become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloopy14 View Post
    Personally i find the combined rate of gold and elixir per hour to be misleading.

    People before we're talking about raiding > 200k per raid of one resource. Now people are talking about raiding 200k in both resources and claiming that loot is good.
    Its a particular problem when people are comparing stats before the upgrade - which only happened a few weeks ago - to the situation now. Its like comparing apples to oranges.

    Furthermore my experience (and i can fully appreciate that this may not be your experience) of loot just before the latest update is that elixir is low in C2 and C1. To upgrade my walls gold was the loot i was looking for gold. Elixir to find armies and spells and DE is what i was actually looting for.
    I don't no how pple r finding it hard for loot my last 4 barch raids I've got 250k of both 290k,260k,390k no spells used so far
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