CLAN WARS - Can we organise our thoughts?

[Kirky]

For me I don't care that they are NOT available if im upgrading however my biggest gripe is that as I understand the match making still takes into account the level of your Heros irrespective of the fact that they are updgrading or not.. If this is the case then this is just flawed and acts simply as an aide to make ppl thinking about gemming the upgrade prior war commencing.

I seem to remember reading somewhere this wasn't the case. ie upgrading heros are ignored for the purposes of matchmaking. I agree if they are included in the "score" when you can't use them, then it is wrong.

Personally I'd rather have mine and let the opponent have theirs. At least both sides can go at it full power.

The Concept would mean changing the way that WAR is matched.

For example: Clans that want to War press the button to "OPT in".

The Match Making is NOT performed at that point.. instead it runs in the background once EVERY 24hrs. The problem here would obviously be the start /end time of the war... but im sure we can come up with a solution for that if it allows for better / more equal match ups.

Any Clans in the "Un-Matched" War Pot are then matched.. This would therefore include more Clans to be potentially matched with, instead of how it is now where it depends how many other clans are searching at the time you hit the button...

Ah ok, I understand now. Some clans are quite sensitive to start/finish times. I'm UK based, but the vast majority of my clan are based in the US. It would seriously mess with our strat if the wars started when the US guys were asleep. It would be interesting to see the results of the proposal.

Might need a little tweak because of clans that finish a war, take 5 mins to "clean up" and then search again. Perhaps run it on 24.5 or 25hr cycles.

I'm in the camp that matchmaking isn't that bad, but that's probably because my clan has a reasonably common composition - 3 TH10, 10 or so TH9 with the rest TH8/7 (slightly more TH8 now). There are loads of clans for us to reasonably match with, but if you are a clan with lots of max bases the pool of clans to match with is lower, so more mismatches arise (similar to the causes of the champ cloud issue) maybe the solution is to flex the matching time based on the actual strength of the clan looking for matching, or even based on how "busy" matchmaking is at any particular time - which borrows a little from your idea.

[Oldskool1968]

My opinions are embedded into quote, I didn't know how to change text color on my iPad.

CLAN WARS : Improvement Thread - Keep it Constructive please!


ISSUES THAT NEED FIXING

HEROS
* Upgrading Heros should be permitted to attack in War - I agree
Match Making
* Unbalanced - Extend the search time frame to allow better match ups - exactly how long? Some of us have other things going on in our lives, we expect a match to be found around the time search started.


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Suggestions or improvement to Clan Wars

• Increase DE reward significantly - agreed, should be twice as much
• Clan member "Opt In/Out" feature - agreed, should be controlled by leader or cos, for members who aren't very active, but participate in war
• Clan War Donation stats - no opinion
• Extended battle time (i.e. 4 minutes) - slow strong troops will have an advantage, townhall 8 and below have enough trouble with dragon attacks, so, no
• War Stats Page - no opinion
• Revenge War/ Grudge Match - yes, but only if both clans agree, and it can only be done once per oppenent
• Star Loot Multiplier - only if it's fractional, otherwise I can see this being exploited or cause multiple people attacking one base for the loot because of multiplier,in turn causing thier clan to lose war
• Clan OPT in / out - this allows all clans into the same pot. Then match making happens this should improve the match making - I don't understand this one, don't you opt in by starting search? And opt out by not starting search?
• Tag a Oppoents base as a "preferred target for player x" - should be controlled by leaders
• Abandon WAR - allows strategic withdrawal from war before war day. opponent gets some free loot - yes, but only if you are still made to wait until the end of 48 hours before you can start another, otherwise this can be exploited where a clan will keep abandoning war until they find a preferably matchup

[Ernievanbert]

As a pretty developed clan - all TH10 from moderately developed to maxed - we have stopped doing clanwars. Too expensive, too much hassle with a seperate warclan (the opt-in function would be an improvement here) and too much source for discontent (clannies attacking with their balloonion armies and winning 2 stars and probably just one, while only the expensive GoWiWathever armies are making the difference). I am certain there are dedicated war clans out there that have it all neatly organized with probably some inactive maxed sh9 added to the mix in order to get easier opponents, but for the occasional war it's no fun up here anymore. Perhaps the recent improvements of the loot make a slight change, but it will take a while before we try it out again.

With my medium th9 mini it still is fun though.

[TheGnome2]

Upgrading heroes in war and longer match making times are big.
Opt out is huge.
Definitely no to extended time.

[dell1981]

I would like to see leader and co leaders be able to delete troops from anybodys war cc

[TheConfuzed1]

As a result of withdrawal they save significant resources.. And can get straight back into another war, should they wish...
The numbers are just that.. But they should get something.

And what about the resources spent on war castle donations and the time spent to organize and start a war?

No, I'm sorry, but I am vehemently opposed to this. Either war, or don't war. You don't get to cancel the war for someone else!

If you want to forfeit, then forfeit, but the opposing clan shouldn't be penalized as a result. The war should t end early though, as that can be manipulated.

[billwinkiesbear]

And what about the resources spent on war castle donations and the time spent to organize and start a war?

No, I'm sorry, but I am vehemently opposed to this. Either war, or don't war. You don't get to cancel the war for someone else!

If you want to forfeit, then forfeit, but the opposing clan shouldn't be penalized as a result. The war should t end early though, as that can be manipulated.

Well opinions differ i guess.. I hate the fact that we lose two days because of the haphazard match making system... But its all irrelevant now as the threads been moved here and as a result im not going to continue update a thread that most wont see.

[rbes06]

Everyone check out the new spell idea that is from me and tell me if that is a good idea!