"I farm" logic

[Lannister]

HiHi,

This has been bugging me for quite some time. When asked "why do you not max your collectors/gold mines asap?", people reply with "I farm a lot lol" or "I want to lose less loot"

WHAT KIND OF LOGIC IS THIS!?

Fail logic 1: I farm a lot
What's wrong with farming a lot AND having max collectors at the same time? If Person A and Person B both farm a lot but Person A has max collectors whilst Person B doesnt. Person B will ALWAYS need to work harder to gain the same amount of loot.

Fail logic 2: I want to lose less loot
Why would you base your collector level on such an unpredictable variable? As long as you collect your collectors in a regular basis, your gains will outstrip your losses over time.

Am I missing something here or are they hiding some secret CoC tactic?

I have read in studies that people in Western countries see their poor mathematical skills as something of a comedic trait or something to be proud of... As an Asian residing in UK, im starting to think there may be some truth to this. Is this the same in day-to-day life? Is this embedded into Western culture?! Such fail at maths in China would result in much family shame

My face is like Jackie Chan right now:
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You should investigate the psychological biases present here instead of basing your ideas purely on logic. This is pure "loss aversion" at play. The psychological impact of losing "$1" is far worse than that of gaining "$1". Even if overall they will make more money with max collectors, the thought they they might "lose more" if they forget to collect their collectors hurts them emotionally and mentally at a greater level than the positive emotional/mental gain from collecting that additional loot. Supercell has designed this entire game around manipulating these psychological factors in order to create an addictive game. Just like rewards like getting loot, you can't give a lot at a single time or the player won't value the reward anymore .... you have to slowly release the reward over a long period of time in order to cause them to always want more.

And people in CoC are naturally risk averse as well, they don't want to through the kitchen sink at a base they have a 1% chance of getting loot out of.

[babblefish]

I maxed all of my mines/collectors to lv11 the first chance I was allowed to...mainly out of laziness. May as well let my base do some useful work while it has a shield...

[bradleytjohnson1]

Well for me I never upgraded mine because I was busy upgrading defensive buildings or other important buildings. I usually farm about 4 mill of each resource a day so spending 3-4 days leveling up a collector makes it harder for me to level my defensive buildings fast. I was recently in the field for a few weeks and didn't have service that much so luckilly I was able to keep my builders busy building the collectors and now at level 96 I finally have all my collectors maxed out. The number 1 person in my clean and the leader of my clan has level 8 collectors and besides big bombs all of his traps are level 1. That's just someone being stubborn lol.

[Gavin13]

My collectors are maxed, and I think its a great idea:

- You get more loot 90% of the time.
- While you're away, you help the community by being an inactive base.
- The amount of loot you lose from your collectors doesn't matter, because if they were low, you wouldn't be making that loot to begin with.

[Khaltones]

Well, maybe in eastern countries they teach people math, but not that people are different and have different time to spend on the game.

Some people have so much time to farm that upgrading collectors would only means a delay in the other buildings upgrade.

Some people have seasons when they are able to farm a lot and seasons when they can't farm at all, which means they will probably want to upgrade those expensive buildings when possible, and let the cheapest ones (aka collectors) for the no-farm days.

So, well, ur "logic" is wrong. There are some reasons that justify not upgrading the collectors. Its just harder to write it in numbers.

[Gama321]

And people in CoC are naturally risk averse as well, they don't want to through the kitchen sink at a base they have a 1% chance of getting loot out of.

Yeah that doesn't mean that they are risk averse, if there was a 100% chance of getting 200k and a 50% on another base of getting 400k and 50% chance of getting absolutely nothing using the exact same amount of troops and spells, I don't think everyone would go for the 200k raid.
The loss aversion part makes sense though, i never thought about it that way, but there are very few clashers who actually use that justification

[xSYNC]

Err If possible I would max my storage before any builder is going free

and before going to sleep I would spent as much resources as possible and my hide as much dark/elixir

Guess what my collectors and mines is just only level 7-9 :/ and i'm a TH8

My plan > Upgrade my mines and collectors while my exam period


btw usually i only go for bases with 150k+ resources or maybe 200k+ because 100k is just meh

[LegionOK]

I have read in studies that people in Western countries see their poor mathematical skills as something of a comedic trait or something to be proud of... As an Asian residing in UK, im starting to think there may be some truth to this. Is this the same in day-to-day life? Is this embedded into Western culture?! Such fail at maths in China would result in much family shame

Obvious racism aside, people sometimes focus more on how much they lose and not on how much they make. If you're trophy pushing, having low level collectors is a good way to dissuade barchers.

[dominion]

I would rather not spend 4 days doing a mine when I can put the time into something else. I only upgrade collectors if I have no time to farm and no money on the account.

People pick to play the game differently. I honestly enjoy attacking and getting the money to build things a lot more then taking it from collectors. Not sure why playing a game differently is a fail in maths. If anything you should be taking a step back and remembering it's a game not your finances.

[choczombie]

HiHi,

This has been bugging me for quite some time. When asked "why do you not max your collectors/gold mines asap?", people reply with "I farm a lot lol" or "I want to lose less loot"

WHAT KIND OF LOGIC IS THIS!?

Fail logic 1: I farm a lot
What's wrong with farming a lot AND having max collectors at the same time? If Person A and Person B both farm a lot but Person A has max collectors whilst Person B doesnt. Person B will ALWAYS need to work harder to gain the same amount of loot.

Fail logic 2: I want to lose less loot
Why would you base your collector level on such an unpredictable variable? As long as you collect your collectors in a regular basis, your gains will outstrip your losses over time.

Am I missing something here or are they hiding some secret CoC tactic?

I have read in studies that people in Western countries see their poor mathematical skills as something of a comedic trait or something to be proud of... As an Asian residing in UK, im starting to think there may be some truth to this. Is this the same in day-to-day life? Is this embedded into Western culture?! Such fail at maths in China would result in much family shame

My face is like Jackie Chan right now:
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Not all resources are gold/elix/dark. Resources include builder time. If farming gives you more elix and gold than your builders can use to build, using them to build relatively cheap but time consuming collectors/mines is a waste of that time. Mine are now maxed, and got there probably sometime in th8. Until then, there were several times when I started upgrades to a collector/mine thinking I wouldn't have the cash for something better for that time, but then cancelled the collector ug so I could do something more useful.

(PS. Yes, it annoys me greatly coming across abandoned bases where the chief didn't upgrade his collector/mines first, but that has nothing to do with his use of logic).