Ash's Journey to Level 40 Heroes and Dark Elixir Farming Guide

[steharg]

Unbelievable progress

Im a recently maxed TH9, with BK 14, and AQ 15. all skull walls and about 15 legos so far.

However I just cant get anywhere near decent results with this, struggling getting past walls to get to a storage, and my troops just seemed to get mowed down.
Dropped about 200 trophies so need to try and work my way back up... struggling!

[Eternal625]

Episode 3 of my Hero Journey series is now up! Got some more great dark elixir farming raids for you guys!



Let me know what you guys think

Unbelievable progress

Im a recently maxed TH9, with BK 14, and AQ 15. all skull walls and about 15 legos so far.

However I just cant get anywhere near decent results with this, struggling getting past walls to get to a storage, and my troops just seemed to get mowed down.
Dropped about 200 trophies so need to try and work my way back up... struggling!

Maybe the problem is the troop composition you're using, maybe you're farming in the wrong league, or maybe you're just not utilizing the troops correctly. If you can, come by my clan and we can give you some pointers to better assist you in your raids.

[runner09]

Episode 3 of my Hero Journey series is now up! Got some more great dark elixir farming raids for you guys!



Let me know what you guys think

Damn. The one thing I am definitely improving on is learning how well my army can handle each base, yet I definitely would have hit next on all those bases in that video. Each time the next raid you were showing popped up, I interally thought, "no way" except for the very first one and de drill raids. Unfortunately I only have level 1 minions so I just use barch, but it great to see the minions potential.

Great work!

Super super nitpicky point in your video that really doesn't matter at all. In the 5th raid against MRhavit, you sent your clan castle as insurance. You said that the last lone minion hitting the de storage was out of range of the air defense. It is really close and I actually can't tell if that last minion is or isn't in range of the de. Your clan castle minions actually distracted the air defense so the last minion was able to get the remaining 250 or so de. I could be wrong though.

[YH6000]

BEST OF LUCK!!! EXCELLENT THREAD EXTREMELY JNFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL...I'll be sure to follow till the end!!!

[perkunas]

Awesome video again! Very impressive to see some of your successful barch raids.

[ThePeskyDingo]

How viable is BAMing for d.e. as a TH8? Since my troops are only lvls 5/5/2 right now I feel like I can't aim for these 1500+ bases and be successful.

Any tips for lower level D.E. farming??

I apologize if this has been answered already in the thread. I have been following for a while now but haven't read absolutely everything.

Thanks!

[Nyxiggon]

Thanks for this thread - I definitely am learning a ton and it's giving me a lot of incentive to start getting my heroes higher in level. Unfortunately, I war once a week, so I try to time my upgrades around that, but on my limited play schedule, it can sometimes get a bit difficult to get the resources on the proper days and such. However, that's not the main point of this post. The main point was that I wanted to talk about the effectiveness of the Barbarian King as he increases in level, as per your video in the first page.

This is just some info, do with it what you will.

Using level 5 Barbarian King as a reference point (first level with Iron Fist), your video states:
level 10: +32% DPS, +15% Defense
15: +65% DPS, +33% D
20: +100% DPS, +52% D
25: +137% DPS, +74% D
30: +176% DPS, +99% D
35: +218% DPS, +127% D
40: +264% DPS, +159% D

I was interested in the cost effectiveness of these upgrades, so I could try to prioritize where and what I spend my resources on. Here are some additional figures:

Going from level 1 to level 5 BK: 75,000 DE (baseline)
5->10: 152.5k
10->15: 275k (427.5k total)
15->20: 400k (827.5k total)
20->25: 525k (1,352.5k total)
25->30: 650k (2,002.5k total)
30->35: 775k (2,777.5k total)
35->40: 900k (3.677.5k total)

So we can see that the relative increase of each 5 level section of upgrades is actually progressively smaller than each previous section, even though the absolute total amount of DE required goes up a bit each time. So now, to compare to the video's section of increase in DPS and Defense per 5 levels of upgrades, we get the following comparisons (all referring back to the original level 5 BK baseline):
10: +32% DPS, +15% D, +203% cost, ~4,766 DE per 1% DPS
15: +65% DPS, +33% D, +570% cost, ~6,577 DE per 1% DPS
20: 100% DPS, +52% D, +1103% cost, ~8,275 DE per 1% DPS
25: +137% DPS, +74% D, +1803% cost, ~9,872 DE per 1% DPS
30: +176% DPS, +99% D, +2670% cost, ~11,378 DE per 1% DPS
35: +218% DPS, +127% D, +3703% cost, ~12,740 DE per 1% DPS
40: +264% DPS, +159% D, +4803% cost, ~16,869 DE per 1% DPS

So we can see that each drop of DE buys you less and less of a percentage upgrade. Note that this is not a comment on the effectiveness purchased, as that is more difficult to measure. Also note that these upgrades feed on each other. The more powerful your BK is, the faster he will destroy defenses, the less amount of time those defenses will be able to shoot at him. Additionally, the tougher your BK is, the longer he can stay alive in the face of defenses so that he can continue to do damage. It is much more difficult to determine the increase in overall unit effectiveness as it depends on the level and quantity of defenses he faces at once, as well as your timing of the Iron Fist ability. However, when making decisions about where to spend your resources, this chart, combined with a similar comparison chart for the other upgrades you are considering, might help you guide your upgrade path.

Time required:
1->5: 5 days
5->10: 17.5 days
10->15: 30 days
15->20: 35 days
20->25: 35 days
25->30: 35 days
30->35: 35 days
35->40: 35 days

Another interesting thing to note is that after level 15, every single level requires a 7 day time period for the upgrade. This means if you're in a clan like mine that wars once a week, you can *kind of* be able to use your heroes during war if you plan correctly. Here's how:
Clan War Start-> Have army + spells ready to go, IMMEDIATELY use your first attack (as in, Prep Day ends -> ATTACK). Have everything queued up and ready to go for the next attack. AS SOON AS ITS READY-> Launch attack. As soon as the attack is finished, upgrade heroes. The following week, you'll be ready to attack a few hours into the war day. You should be able to do this for at least a few weeks. If you're in a great clan, you could even all time all your heroes upgrades together, and just continually shift the clan war start time by a few hours each week and perpetually be able to use your heroes once a week for war!

Hopefully this is helpful for those of us who aren't necessarily dedicated enough to have our heroes on permanent upgrade status.

[steharg]

Great stuff Ash

My troop composition is the same as yours, think i've just been picking the wrong bases, and some rash troop deployment and getting mauled!

Will be giving it another go tonight

[ILoveC0c]

ur commentary is priceless man! HAHA

[Eternal625]

Damn. The one thing I am definitely improving on is learning how well my army can handle each base, yet I definitely would have hit next on all those bases in that video. Each time the next raid you were showing popped up, I interally thought, "no way" except for the very first one and de drill raids. Unfortunately I only have level 1 minions so I just use barch, but it great to see the minions potential.

Great work!

Super super nitpicky point in your video that really doesn't matter at all. In the 5th raid against MRhavit, you sent your clan castle as insurance. You said that the last lone minion hitting the de storage was out of range of the air defense. It is really close and I actually can't tell if that last minion is or isn't in range of the de. Your clan castle minions actually distracted the air defense so the last minion was able to get the remaining 250 or so de. I could be wrong though.

Thanks and great observation! Missed it myself, but you're right. Those CC Minions did distract the Air Defense, allowing that 1 Minion to finish the DE storage.

How viable is BAMing for d.e. as a TH8? Since my troops are only lvls 5/5/2 right now I feel like I can't aim for these 1500+ bases and be successful.

Any tips for lower level D.E. farming??

I apologize if this has been answered already in the thread. I have been following for a while now but haven't read absolutely everything.

Thanks!

Well there isn't much of a difference between Lv 5 and Lv 6 Archers, they're both very viable for their purpose in my army composition. You can get Lv 4 Minions in TH 8, so be sure to get them, they're very helpful! The only big difference between TH 8 and TH 9 for this method are Lv 5 Barbs vs Lv 6 Barbs. Lv 6 Barbarians are much better at tanking and taking things down in their way as groups. But nonetheless, you should still be able to farm with them as I recall being able to when I was a TH 8 too. Put less focus on attacking DE storages that are too centralized and protected. Focus more on raiding drills holding substantial DE, and storages internalized no more than 2 layers.

Thanks for this thread - I definitely am learning a ton and it's giving me a lot of incentive to start getting my heroes higher in level. Unfortunately, I war once a week, so I try to time my upgrades around that, but on my limited play schedule, it can sometimes get a bit difficult to get the resources on the proper days and such. However, that's not the main point of this post. The main point was that I wanted to talk about the effectiveness of the Barbarian King as he increases in level, as per your video in the first page.

Thank you for this valuable information. I will share this on the Barbarian King Level Analysis Guide thread here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...Analysis-Guide

ur commentary is priceless man! HAHA

Thanks dude! I'm trying to improve on sounding more enthusiastic as I can be pretty mundane sometimes.