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Thread: [Discussion] 4th Mortar means ALL TH8+ bases will be outdated!

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    [Discussion] 4th Mortar means ALL TH8+ bases will be outdated!

    So as you may surely know by now, the fourth mortar is now out. This is not a discussion about the fourth mortar impacting the game, etc. rather, to talk about the changes required and techniques needed to be used to suit this new update.

    Popular and well known bases are also affected. Including, but not limited to the Tesla Theme Park, Pokeball, Trapception, the Infinite Family bases, etc.

    I will explain why TH9/10s will not be affected as much but will allow them to consider better placement for the mortars.

    Fortunately, most bases have an extra pocket or two to fit spare buildings such as DE drills or collectors. The problem with this is that one defense will have to be moved out (assuming the mortar is placed in the second layer) and another will be pushed out. For an example, refer to this image:



    Lets assume that the 4th mortar will be placed in the second layer. This will mean either a WT, AD or storage to be pushed towards the outside. Same conflict with these famous designs:



    In the Pokeball the mortar would most logically be placed where the AD is. This would cause either the AD or WT to be moved out to the outer layer.


    Same issue with Trapception.



    Hypnotica, Three Doors and HDT some of Avernicus's famous designs.


    The least affected TH levels are the TH9 and 10s where in most designs, mortar placement is dismissed almost as a point defense category. Refer to these images:


    Fujin.



    River Styx.


    The Prime is an exception in this case.


    Prime B.

    Of course, there are still plenty of TH9 designs which feature protected mortars but this thread is not to discuss that point.

    TH10 bases:







    Etc.

    Thoughts? I personally suggest at least a wall compensation. 5-10 walls is enough to fix these changes and give overall protection to the valuable buildings. My upcoming base, and bases to come, will be majorly affected along with everyone else.
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    http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...new-4th-Mortar

    I suggest to all TH9s to use my base, The Eye of Sauron. It can very easily incoporate the 4th Mortar, probably will be better with it. Just put the mortar where the cannon by the lix storage is and the cannon where the spell factory is. (Not biased )
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    The 4th mortar has its pros and cons ,would be quite hard to adapt with the new update

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edster56 View Post
    http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/427926-Base-Designers-How-will-you-incoporate-the-new-4th-Mortar

    I suggest to all TH9s to use my base, The Eye of Sauron. It can very easily incoporate the 4th Mortar, probably will be better with it. Just put the mortar where the cannon by the lix storage is and the cannon where the spell factory is. (Not biased )
    *Cough* Please refrain from advertising your base on this thread
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    call me stupid but i just woke up (im in another time zone) and is the 4th mortar really confirmed?

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    ok, i saw this http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...K-here!!/page7

    thanks!
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    More walls ? But you don't have to put the 4th mortar behind walls. Additional defense does not make current base design worse than before. Whether you put mortar in the stead of storage or whatever, is your own choice. In case you are already satisfied with your current base, you don't even have to get the 4th mortar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoardGuest808888 View Post
    More walls ? But you don't have to put the 4th mortar behind walls. Additional defense does not make current base design worse than before. Whether you put mortar in the stead of storage or whatever, is your own choice. In case you are already satisfied with your current base, you don't even have to get the 4th mortar.
    Actually, you have a good point there. I mean for those who are already late into TH8 almost progressing to TH9 can just get the mortar at TH9 instead of TH8. Then they wont have to mess up their defense.

    Looks at Dokugan. This means you'll be bringing in the new generation of bases with 4 mortars at TH8!!

    /scrapes designs off my signature.

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    Avernicus, one of the Gods of base designs, please grant us a TH8 base design ASAP



    im an almost maxed out TH8 and minus this update, i will be maxed out 4 days from now (my last DE rax will be finished upgrading). And I have no plans to upgrade to TH9 soon.

    But with the new update, can you come up with a new bad-♥♥♥ symmetric base layout for TH8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwandowando View Post


    im an almost maxed out TH8 and minus this update, i will be maxed out 4 days from now (my last DE rax will be finished upgrading). And I have no plans to upgrade to TH9 soon.

    But with the new update, can you come up with a new bad-♥♥♥ symmetric base layout for TH8
    whats wrong with me?, im working on a modified ToA as we speak

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    What's wrong with you?

    Nothing actually.

    Just requesting one of the famous base designers to come up with a new one with the upcoming 4th mortar just a few hours away
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