The Whole troop donation issue solved!!!

[iceageg]

My post is a solution, which is not the problem. Any other typos like #5 talks about Selling your troops for internal clan economy boost. Instead of just donating them. Thanks for misreading tho. One bad post won't kill the thread. Because Selling your bigger troops is the most important part as you pointed out. If they did come up with lv 5 drags then I would buy one for backup!!! Lol..

Selling troops would do nothing for the economy because it doesn't introduce any new currency. If we both have $10 and you sell me something for $2 then I have $8 and you have $12 . . . there is still only $20 that anybody can have. The only way to fix the game's economy is to introduce enough currency that people can continue to spend it back out. Trading it between one another by buying/selling troops, trading, or even attacking each other simply moves existing resources around. It doesn't create any wealth. The only way the in game economy works is to introduce more NEW resources to the game than are spent upgrading buildings, training troops and nexting. Introducing more resources is dependent on league/war rewards, collector production, gems and farming inactive accounts (because they don't spend any out of the economy, just produce). Buying and selling troops from each other would have zero effect economically. On the bright side because it would have no effect on the bigger picture it wouldn't hurt anything, but it wouldn't help any either.

[ImLaird]

You either give or you dont. I see no issue

So you are in a clan that allows freeloaders. That's chill! So don't worry about war castle backups anymore, and go without, listen to my donaters ask why I quit donating, and have them stop donating backup or.. what exactly do I do now that I realized there's no issue. I've met my achievement so there is really no reason to be on that side of it anymore. Great! So hopefully now all those clans out there will take down their silly banners of donate 100-1,000 for elder and co is earned by donations and trust.. I'll let you tell all off them ..either you will or you won't. And the point of your reply is ? And if you reply back, or not, is no issue either. However , I would like for someone with a clan bio banner with troop donation requirements, and that gives war backup, to reply, to let me know if this guys responce is irrelevent?

[ImLaird]

Selling troops would do nothing for the economy because it doesn't introduce any new currency. If we both have $10 and you sell me something for $2 then I have $8 and you have $12 . . . there is still only $20 that anybody can have. The only way to fix the game's economy is to introduce enough currency that people can continue to spend it back out. Trading it between one another by buying/selling troops, trading, or even attacking each other simply moves existing resources around. It doesn't create any wealth. The only way the in game economy works is to introduce more NEW resources to the game than are spent upgrading buildings, training troops and nexting. Introducing more resources is dependent on league/war rewards, collector production, gems and farming inactive accounts (because they don't spend any out of the economy, just produce). Buying and selling troops from each other would have zero effect economically. On the bright side because it would have no effect on the bigger picture it wouldn't hurt anything, but it wouldn't help any either.

AGREED, however, not the issue, but its a perk of sorts from the idea, of new barrick, and a camp, just as defence goin up on your base would with extra camp and barracks. So let's go over everything

Elixer pumps if I remember from beginning are sold to you in beginning, and " there is a vast supply of endless resources under our villages, all you have to do is buy the collectors and storages to hold all of it." Or however its put..lol. but then you find out you grow quicker by raiding other villages that can raid you back ..so yea its moved around in circles I agree, to no extent! Since I've collected so much over months and grabbed so much and all of it goes to buy new things from shop. Upgrades on building are purchased and upgrades to those and troops, that by the way is biggest issue I have. Cost of upgrades. So circles of loot do stop..at the research center, the shop to purchase things.
There's always new resources or game would have died along time ago. Or one winner take all.
Being this loot circle is from ground to collector to storage to purchases and upgrades then from there back into the ground.
I have one question now.
How do you come up with zero new introduced if they come back from a raid where they spent 30 k for your drag as backup..and it helped them get any, over their troop cost plus cost of drag, they profited..ok well say they hit a village for 300k loot over cost. Doesn't that come back to your clan? They will have outside resources in their camp. Now as part of the clan, they too fill donation camp with some. This will also add to his loot grab achievement! I do believe that ive used cc donated troops to finish a raid where I would have lost the battle, therefore losing the bonus plus cost of all troops, but instead profited over 400k each in coin and purple, by dropping cc in the right place. so yeah it doesnt hurt , and YES definatley helps. How it helps the most is the guy in your clan that's stingy with his troops, and where I came up with the idea, was when he asked for backup, I said since you won't donate troops to anyone or wc backup either then send me elix, cause I have very little, anddi will build you a drag every 30 min if you want. He said build it and come raid my storage! Lol..so came the idea to solve several problems at the same time. And I categorized under in clan economy because I've had those op troops help me bring back alot of extra loot. And I've had them fail me too. But that's only way to figure in Zero to helping in clan economy. Because I was out the elix but he wasn't out anything, he requested another to make up for that, and came back that time with replay where my donated troop saved his and clans butt. He put in war castles that time..easy clan, and we three starred first attacks, bammmm..? Everyone profited in war too.
And it all came from the ground and ended back up there!!!
STILL THOSE ASKING FOR HIGHER BACKUP THAN DEFAULT FOR CLAN IS FINE BUT TAKES TIME AND EXTRA LOOT...THE MAIN ISSUE IS GETTING THE ONES NOT USE TO DONATING WC TROOPS OR DONT WANT TO STICK AROUND FOR DONATING LEAVING SOME HANGING. WAITING ...IS IT ONLY FIVEE PEOPLES RESONSIBILITY? AND DO THEY HAVE TO STOP BUILDING THEIR TROOPS AND UNCUE TO MAKE TROOPS FOR THOSE? NO THEY DONT HAVE TO BUT WE DO!! ITS UNSELFISH!! Sorry to be the good guy, THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES, OTHER THAN DONATIONS THO THAT WOULD MAKE ALL OF THIS GO AWAY!!! IM TRYING TO SAVE , FARM , STEAL, COLLECT, ENOUGH TO KEEP WAR GOING AND BUILDERS BUSY , AND FILL WAR CASTLES, AND HAND OUT BACK UP, AND KEEP A CLAN HAPPY WHEN THEY ARE RAIDED ALOT. SO MAYBE I SHOULD DROP THIS THREAD AND START ONE FOR CHEAPER TROOPS AND UPGRADES FOR THE LEADER OF THE CLAN SO HE CAN FILL THE REQUEST OF THE PEOPLE. MAYBE HE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO BE RAIDED AT ALL!!! BUT NO EVERYONE WOULD WANT LEADER AND CLANS FALLING APART ..SO WELL,..,,,?WHAT WOULD IT HURT BECAUSE IT WOULDD DEFINATELY HELP IN LOTS OF WAYS TO HAVE A SEPERATE BARRIK AND CAMP..FOR DONATION TROOPS AND BE ABLE TO SET A SYSTEM UP WHERE the REQUESTER PAYS FOR THE MAKING OF TROOP HE REQUEST. IT IS REQUESTED BY HIM PAID FOR BY HIM AND GOES TO HIM WHEN FINISHED, ITS JUST THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS UNLOCKED THAT TROOP HAD IT BUILT IN HIS BARRICK. Doesn't hurt, and, it can and will definitely help!!! Cool..thanks again.
Guys thank you all for your input. And for voting. Please continue to ask and have others vote!!! Its being worked on everytime I have a chance to reply, so we can stop voting that. lawl...:-)

[ImLaird]

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[lanesteele240]

So you are in a clan that allows freeloaders. That's chill! So don't worry about war castle backups anymore, and go without, listen to my donaters ask why I quit donating, and have them stop donating backup or.. what exactly do I do now that I realized there's no issue. I've met my achievement so there is really no reason to be on that side of it anymore. Great! So hopefully now all those clans out there will take down their silly banners of donate 100-1,000 for elder and co is earned by donations and trust.. I'll let you tell all off them ..either you will or you won't. And the point of your reply is ? And if you reply back, or not, is no issue either. However , I would like for someone with a clan bio banner with troop donation requirements, and that gives war backup, to reply, to let me know if this guys responce is irrelevent?

The point of my reply is your idea is not needed. We do not need to sell eachother troops. You donate to help your calnsmates out. Not to sell them stuff.

Second. Dont diss my clan. We are one of the best on the forum. Will fill cc request in seconds.

[ImLaird]

The point of my reply is your idea is not needed. We do not need to sell eachother troops. You donate to help your calnsmates out. Not to sell them stuff.

Second. Dont diss my clan. We are one of the best on the forum. Will fill cc request in seconds.

Not to dis your clan, you are the one that said some donate and some don't, i WAS ASKING IF you were. And I bet they do, all donate in seconds which is why you shouldn't have posted anything, because you wouldn't know about people doing this in clans. So instead of telling me its not an issue, let me in on your secret of getting everyone to donate to war castles and stay to help donate backup. Then I'd love to know when you are getting ready for war and have all troops made , and backup ready that ten others don't hop on and hit the request button ready to attack, do you just have them wait, till your done then donate by queuing before you battle so its ready when your done, or do y'all hold the door open and say ,go ahead. Give them a drag or wiz and reque yours, and wait, because that's what some of us are doing, waiting and letting others go first..so see now. What would an extra barrik for donations hurt? And camp to hold em in hurt? If you want to fill those quickly..also during multi, we don't have problems donating as much as their castle will hold in one or more donations. But it takes time. And cost that 30 k elix I need to stay ahead of them on lv of troops so all of my upgrades have been for my clan, not myself. And now they're passing me on lv and getting higher on war map. I don't see what letting them pay cost of a 30k drag if thats what they want. makes anyone less of a person. I usually give them more than what they ask for. Archers? Well just me and you on, so you'll be waiting a while..and I'll hit em with lv5 wiz. Or a drag. So they don't wait. So again def not an issue...your not getting the point. What about the ones that stop in and request...just give em 10-30k worth for em to leave ..dump archers or barbs in for em to leave, these barracks and camp would stop a lot of that , or your clan could benefit from it. Also newbies to the clan asking every single raid for troops keeps you from filling your camp and raiding as quick..new camps and baricks only hold time consuming higher cost troops. That if someone newer in clan but not new to coc joins and frequently ask for troops but our clan is used to raiding without backup..look most of us give before we will ask..as far as the veterans to clan go. So yea don't do me that way either..try to flip it around into an arguement , cause if your clan is one of the best on this forum, then a simple, question from you would help keep that going, and mid reading what is said and popping off that there isn't an issue is just popping something off for no reason. If you had a useful answer that was respectable, then you'd recieve that in return. I said nothing disrespectful to you, only asked if you had and agreed with freeloaders in your clan.I never said you did have because I've never been in your clan to be able to make that call. K. Also I'm not coming down on my clan either. I'll say you may have the best clan in forums...but I have the best clan in Clash. So step on over to another forum and don't spam mine. Because what you are doing is spamming. I asked a simple question and you turned it around. Thanks for under standing the topic, and clarifying that I'm only here to profit from my clan ..yeah..that's why my friend in need is done achieved. And I've held back my upgrades to base to rush the 8 so I could fill WC with lv5 wiz. Yeah I'm a real mooch and looking to profit off of clan..really nice how you tried to make me into that, man you don't even know me or have the right to twist my words. As my clan talks about how much of a noob some are and shouldnt reply to those

[DOODYDUM]

Donating and selling is 2 different things...

It's like "selling" to charity..

Donating's sole purpose is to assist clan mates, when profit is involved it's different..

[ImLaird]

Donating and selling is 2 different things...

It's like "selling" to charity..

Donating's sole purpose is to assist clan mates, when profit is involved it's different..

My donations exceed over 29, 500, My donations are not what's important, profit has never been part of the discussion, but ( TRADING) , SAY I HAVE ALOT OF ELIX AND MY CLANMATES DONT, I cannot donate them or give them elixer, however, I can buy troops from them if I need a higher level, such as Golem or Dragon of a level up or Pekka level 3, I have the elix for them to make the troop, but they don't. Point blank. I get the troop I need or want to try, and they aren't out the elix....." MY CLANMATES WONT BE OUT THE ELIX, CAUSE IT WAS MINE TO GIVE IF I WANT THE BIGGER LONGER TO MAKE TROOP," OK? OK ! ..LOL, why is it that difficult to wrap your mind around the idea? Seperate camp and barracks have been brought up in other ideas, I've noticed more and more, I will just go support their idea. Being its the same idea. Oh let me add if you will I am only talking about higher, out of reach troops for lower level Th clan members. Not you clans that only accept max TH 8/9 or above .
Although your input is nice, it still spins the thread out of place and reasoning.
No! It is for no profit to anyone, unless somone adds to the cost of what it cost them to make. So in Noway can you say its profiting. eg; it cost you 30 k to make a dragon, the requesting party has elix of that amount withdrawn from their elix to make the dragon, or if premade dragon is available, only the cost to have prelude the troop is returned, or traded.
Therefore no profit is ever or can ever be made.
Thanks again for trying and failing at twisting my words. So that I may elaborate. Your wrong again!
Please, who cares about grammer. We didn't have grammar teachers clans were around to teach us how to say uggh!, or punctuate. Lol, in neanderthal times. Lawl...