[PETITION] Make Heroes Usable in Clan Wars... While Upgrading.

[Absat]

not all 446 pages of posts support this!
I think it's a stupid idea

OK
I'll repost my rebuttal of this again.

Supercell is a company
Companies have to make money

They make money from people buying gems
So some things in the game cost gems

(Still with me here?)

If it wasn't that you could gem heroes to get them back in war, it would be something else.
It feels to me, that having heroes take a week to upgrade and not be available is fair enough.
You don't have to gem them/You don't have to war without them/You don't have to war - it's your choice

Would you like to suggest some other place you'd like to place gem cost in the game?
You want troops to take 4 times longer to build so we need to boost barracks?
You want heroes to take 2 times as long to heal so we need to boost their healing?

Please make a suggestion for what should cost gems instead here....

I'ts not that I have high level heroes and have been through that pain (although I have, and I just didn't war, didn't see the big deal really) it's that I can see the consequence of getting this is more pain somewhere else.

I think this is a fair place for the cost to sit, since it's entirely optional.

//unsigned for what it's worth

Wars are unplayble without heros, so what you are suggesting is pay to play.

I support those who pay and I am one of them but the game should play fine without gems. Gems should be there for luxury.

[Aspex]

Wars are unplayble without heros, so what you are suggesting is pay to play.

I support those who pay and I am one of them but the game should play fine without gems. Gems should be there for luxury.

I have warred at least once weekly, mostly more, whilst getting my heroes to their current levels of 37/40. I have done this using only the gems I obtained from obstacles, achievements and (now) events. If people cannot manage a resource such as gems in a game with a large time and resource management component then that is their lookout.

[PhilISuppose]

Wars are unplayble without heros, so what you are suggesting is pay to play.

I support those who pay and I am one of them but the game should play fine without gems. Gems should be there for luxury.

As I said in my post you have options:
Don't war
War without heroes
Gem some hero time

I don't see how it's 'pay to play' the game isn't pay to play now and I don't suggest they make a change...

If you want to propose some other place that CoC could require gems to be spent that would be fairer than this, then this thread would be a good place to do it.
My feeling is that some people choosing to spend some gems to have heroes available for war is a good place for that cost to sit.

[Posedion78]

I agree 100%, this will make it so clans can have larger wars. Because in the clan I'm in we require all heroes up to war. Having heroes available to war even when upgrading would mean a lot for clan like mine

[Kraven001]

I see both sides, and could argue either

--clash is a business first. Businesses need to make money. Keep it like it is. (How much money does one need before it's classified as greed and not in the best interest of the game)

--Heros being a significant part of any attack, I could say that the "pure intention" of war is to see how to clans battle each other. I would think that ideally full strength is a true test. Therefore by denying heros that are upgrading during war isn't with the...spirit of clan wars. (As others pointed out it's possible to gem them via just in game gems with some proper time management and "big boy pants" so stop whining it's part of the game...move on)

but ill sign the request anyway.

I don't think we should have them for general MM attacks or defense, I think they should be handled like other upgrading defense structures. Spell factory is the same topic really, just doesn't require as much downtime for any given TH so isn't brought up. Same argument applies though. I wouldn't sign a spell factory petition though...that's uber diaper baby whining right there.

[bigbruce]

I see both sides, and could argue either

--clash is a business first. Businesses need to make money. Keep it like it is. (How much money does one need before it's classified as greed and not in the best interest of the game)

--Heros being a significant part of any attack, I could say that the "pure intention" of war is to see how to clans battle each other. I would think that ideally full strength is a true test. Therefore by denying heros that are upgrading during war isn't with the...spirit of clan wars. (As others pointed out it's possible to gem them via just in game gems with some proper time management and "big boy pants" so stop whining it's part of the game...move on)

but ill sign the request anyway.

I don't think we should have them for general MM attacks or defense, I think they should be handled like other upgrading defense structures. Spell factory is the same topic really, just doesn't require as much downtime for any given TH so isn't brought up. Same argument applies though. I wouldn't sign a spell factory petition though...that's uber diaper baby whining right there.

I agree with almost all your points Kraven 001 -signed- but if the argument is seeing attackers full potential i agree not for multiplayer attacks and defenses but for wars if your going to war with barb kimg or archer queen that is training it shouldn't be a big deal if they put in a upgrading spell factory available for you during war time, but I am making things more complicated just stating if they agree on barb king archer queen/ avaiability during wars, spells would be next complaint

[BTProvoker]

As I said in my post you have options:
Don't war
War without heroes
Gem some hero time

#1. 80% reason I'm playing this game is because of wars and 20%, because of my clan. I won't stay out of wars.

#2. Wait, aren't we talking about full potential from every player in wars?

#3. Not a pay-to-play game. Not possible to gem all the hero upgrade time without buying them. But fair enough, SOME hero time can be gemmed. All you need is good management of those gems you get from events, gem boxes, and obstacles.

But, there'll be no problems if they make heroes available to war (except SC getting real money ofc ) People who can, will still buy gems and gem those upgrades if they want to upgrade quicker. Won't they?

I have warred at least once weekly, mostly more, whilst getting my heroes to their current levels of 37/40. I have done this using only the gems I obtained from obstacles, achievements and (now) events. If people cannot manage a resource such as gems in a game with a large time and resource management component then that is their lookout.

This ^^
Manage your gems properly and you should have enough for skipping SOME hero upgrade time.

Its still SOME. I'm a player who likes doing 3 wars a week.

/Signed

[jemclash]

/ signed

I understand that supercell is a business but heroes are basic needs for the high levels . Based from my 3 yrs experience playing COC , this is what every players want for the game . Pls make heroes available to use even upgrading or even @ wars only. If people dont gem and will just focus in upgrading heroes and dont join wars it might take 8 months to max it . so i see this a reason why some of my high level clan mates dont play the game anymore. I strongly believe that this changes could bring back others who are no longer playing. because if you do so , they will always be available and ready for war at anytime around. And one more thing you make all things available for defense in clan war , why not offense, so i believe its just fair enough to make it use while upgrading. Pls Supercell Im begging You .

[kingzamn45]

Yes..give this feature

[Jordan45]

Its been ruled out although it would be nice but simply it will probably never happen as supercell makes tons of money off ppl my math isnt perfect but after ur heros hit lv 15 it cost about 10$ to gem the time if you were to get gem every lv to 45 their making 300$ thats a big part of their income