[PETITION] Make Heroes Usable in Clan Wars... While Upgrading.

[BluBest]

Here's everything I've gathered on why this is bad.
1. The first like four posters on this thread are banned
2. Loss of income( heroes have 40 LEVELS thats a lot of gem sales, most levels in the entire game)
3. One of the SC teams said it would be extremely hard to do( hero is being upgraded, defending base in war, and attacking. Thats three things it is doing at the same time).
4. Leaving this the way slows clan from achieving max clan level 10. (clans are already at level 7)
5. It deviates from everything else like other things that upgrade during war. Examples: Spells and Barracks can't be used, and towers don't change to upgraded format in the middle of war.

Number one is legit

[Merpinderp]

/signedI want my heroes!

[jlbrown122887]

/signed

However, I'm sure SC makes too much money off of people gemming heroes.

[DinuDeath]

/Signed

This is a very good idea

[Nuisance99]

Here's everything I've gathered on why this is bad.
1. The first like four posters on this thread are banned
2. Loss of income( heroes have 40 LEVELS thats a lot of gem sales, most levels in the entire game)
3. One of the SC teams said it would be extremely hard to do( hero is being upgraded, defending base in war, and attacking. Thats three things it is doing at the same time).
4. Leaving this the way slows clan from achieving max clan level 10. (clans are already at level 7)
5. It deviates from everything else like other things that upgrade during war. Examples: Spells and Barracks can't be used, and towers don't change to upgraded format in the middle of war.

I disagree with every point that you make here and here is why:

1. The first four posters in this thread being banned has no bearing whatsoever on this discussion. The idea stands/falls on its own merit. The fact that there are pages and pages of discussion supports this fact.
2. You are in no position to conclude that there would be a significant impact on SC revenue. You just don't have the data. There likely could be a negative impact on their revenue. Also, No one in this thread to my knowledge is asking for free hero upgrades. So people will still have to option to gem them to finish the upgrade.
3. I don't remember anyone saying this was extremely hard to do. SC has stated that the reason they haven't done anything on this front is for technical reasons. It may or may not be hard for them to do, but for whatever reason they have decided not to take this on at this point.
4. The speed of leveling clans could be tweaked if SC felt the impact would be so large.
5. There are several examples of how buildings function differently in war vs non-war functionality. Several of these differences support the argument for being able to use heroes while they are upgrading. For example if I have an archer tower upgrading from level 9 to level 10 during a war, my war base is not down an archer tower. I still get to use my level 9 archer tower on defense.

I think the pros definitely out-weigh the cons for using heroes during war while they are upgrading. I know that I would be a happier customer if this change was made and I know several of my clanmates would feel the same.

[MaximIwanskyj]

My BK is only level 5 (i am th7), however, i completely agree with every aspect of this argument. Heroes' upgrade time will definitely affect me in the future; my clan is constantly doing wars - 3 times a week. Therefore, i sign this petition with full respect towards the base idea.

/signed

P.S
This is currently being considered by SC (Super Cell) and it may soon be added - maybe even in the next update!

[BluBest]

I disagree with every point that you make here and here is why:

1. The first four posters in this thread being banned has no bearing whatsoever on this discussion. The idea stands/falls on its own merit. The fact that there are pages and pages of discussion supports this fact.
2. You are in no position to conclude that there would be a significant impact on SC revenue. You just don't have the data. There likely could be a negative impact on their revenue. Also, No one in this thread to my knowledge is asking for free hero upgrades. So people will still have to option to gem them to finish the upgrade.
3. I don't remember anyone saying this was extremely hard to do. SC has stated that the reason they haven't done anything on this front is for technical reasons. It may or may not be hard for them to do, but for whatever reason they have decided not to take this on at this point.
4. The speed of leveling clans could be tweaked if SC felt the impact would be so large.
5. There are several examples of how buildings function differently in war vs non-war functionality. Several of these differences support the argument for being able to use heroes while they are upgrading. For example if I have an archer tower upgrading from level 9 to level 10 during a war, my war base is not down an archer tower. I still get to use my level 9 archer tower on defense.

I think the pros definitely out-weigh the cons for using heroes during war while they are upgrading. I know that I would be a happier customer if this change was made and I know several of my clanmates would feel the same.

1. Confirms the first posters where some what insane.
2. The point of this thread is to use heroes during war. Stop being delusional, this WILL hurt gem sells, i don't have to work for SC to understand that.
3. Yes they did say it would be difficult. YOU MISSED THAT POST. Stop writing and go read. What do you think technical issues mean????
4. ♥♥♥. You are the biggest hypocrite on Earth. First you say i have no right to say what SC does, then you say what they should do.
5. Once again you didn't read ( I can tell it's hard for you), i clearly said middle. Your example doesn't help, you don't lose heroes on defense during war.

What you need to do is stop thinking. No one cares if you leave. Do everyone a favor and set your collectors and storages outside.

[ColonelAwesome]

I've said this a hundred times on this thread. This isn't going to happen. There are too many problems with this idea to make it a good idea. Opt out of war. It's pretty simple.

[ColonelAwesome]

Read pages 112-116 for all the reasons on why this idea will not be implemented

[Callywally]

1. Confirms the first posters where some what insane.
2. The point of this thread is to use heroes during war. Stop being delusional, this WILL hurt gem sells, i don't have to work for SC to understand that.
3. Yes they did say it would be difficult. YOU MISSED THAT POST. Stop writing and go read. What do you think technical issues mean????
4. ♥♥♥. You are the biggest hypocrite on Earth. First you say i have no right to say what SC does, then you say what they should do.
5. Once again you didn't read ( I can tell it's hard for you), i clearly said middle. Your example doesn't help, you don't lose heroes on defense during war.

What you need to do is stop thinking. No one cares if you leave. Do everyone a favor and set your collectors and storages outside.

1. That still doesn't mean anything. There are insane people who believe the earth is spherical, so does that mean the idea itself is insane? No. Your logic fails me.
2. You don't have the data! Nobody but maybe the SC staff knows if the players leaving CoC as opposed to those few who gemmed heroes every war, nobody can tell for certain. You have no idea if it'd cost SC money to add this or not.
3. Obviously the addition may be difficult to implement, but does that mean the idea in itself is bad? Absolutely not.
4. He's saying that IF there were an issue that XP was given out too easily, it could be tweaked directly by SC. Again, showing that your earlier point was invalid.
5. There's obviously a difference between hundreds of days of upgrading vital heroes, and upgrading barracks for a few days (which can be helped, because you have 3 other barracks to do the work).

BTW, your finishing sentence proves that SC does indeed lose money by players leaving out of frustration.