My take on elimination of the experience levels

[kings4ever]

Do you seriously believe SC would eliminate levels without thinking the consequences. I now believe that its all schemed process to make cups more important.

Leader of my clan would get high level players to join from global by showing his 114 level (I am not saying it is his motive, but level helps). He stopped going to global anymore.

He is keen to get the black league shield as a symbol of achievement.

This is only one instance. There would be many many more.

Give it a thought, why would people spend gems and money on the game? To get a sense of achievement. Its a matter of pride to be on top. So make the leader board size 200 instead of 100. More people can compete now with each other, same with no. of clans.

Another issue was, how to make lvl 100+ and others to chase cups. Simple, demean the level they have achieved. Make the league shield new level to be flaunted. Someone properly termed the process as : A competition of my ..... vs. your ...... (SC did not edit, its me).

Still, everyone may not quit farming. What to do? I have an idea, why not reduce loot from storage to 20% and remove inactive accounts from searching (Not regular stuff but pretty brutal). Reduce and even kill the farming, bait them for bonus loot.

Bonus loot is too low, everyone is complaining. Don't worry people, everything going as per plan. We will increase it gradually, more at high cups. Like taking a pound and returning pennies, one at a time.

My take: I am not bothered with all this non sense. Its a good game, my base near max (maybe in 2 months, lol). Enjoy the game and evolve. Remember, when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. Farm 3 weeks and cup hunt one week, work a little harder. Believe it or not, the game has changed and no roll back is coming. The earlier you get it, the better is for you all. The loot may get slightly better since 7-8 days from update have passed.

Please stop making new polls about levels and new threads too (PS: I voted for levels back, but now i know the truth. I swallowed the blue pill)

[Rjcca]

Wow. I never thought of it like that... Interesting...

(I enjoyed you Matrix reference)

[Kishk]

ABC you have made me realize something i didn't even figure out. That black shield is the accomplishment i am seeking now. I gotta hire you as my shrink for my coc addiction
Oh and by the way it's lvl 116

[kings4ever]

Wow. I never thought of it like that... Interesting...

(I enjoyed you Matrix reference)

Thanks, I knew some people will get my point. Too bad this thread my die a slow death if people don't see and comment on it.

And yes, it was a Matrix reference, you noted : )

ABC you have made me realize something i didn't even figure out. That black shield is the accomplishment i am seeking now. I gotta hire you as my shrink for my coc addiction
Oh and by the way it's lvl 116

Exactly my point Kishk, I am in your clan and you are the leader. Still, I am not sure what your level is, its on a slow path to extinction. RIP experience levels

[kings4ever]

Forgot a point (and excuse to bump)

Wb are intelligent now, they aim for the trapped buildings and not spikes.

Don't underestimate that upgrade, as it made all bases dumb looking and farming less exciting. Players like Hannibal, with tonnes of knowledge and experience with old wb AI, were against dumbing the wb. It was an important step to make people loos part interest in farming, balance work was done by other updates.

Is there a correlation or am I looking too hard

[silentwill]

Please stop making new polls about levels and new threads too

Allow me to reiterate and highlight. I've been bored with the forums for the last three days or so with the same topics coming up in different threads.

[Junliang]

Certainly a very possible analysis, and a way to steer the mindset of the general population to the intended path, "Trophy Hunting".

A quick 10 mins into matchmaking before the league update shows that majority of the bases that we encounter at 1200~1700 are with TH inside.

Meaning the "farmer" population is actually not that huge.

However, these "farming" players, are actually the majority of the forumites in this forum.

Chances are, casual players who do not do any research on this game, or come to the forums, will not go far.
Maybe 1800 trophy at best ?

So what they are trying to do, as per your analysis, is to kill off the farming population, and hopefully convert all to trophy hunters.

Kinda ironic isn't it ?

They advertise the forum, and ask people to frequent it.
And most people, even if they have they TH inside, after joining the forum and reading base design threads.
Guess what ? They will be converted to farmers themselves.

And the forum is one of their platform to reach out to their players, where players are more vocal and giving feedback, though harsh at times.

So they are unintentionally, killing the people on the forum.

Of course there is an uproar.

Another point I wish to point out is..
Yes, loot bonus can certainly be tweak to be great.

But, what are the odds, that the loot bonus will be so great, such that it will actually be better than farming ?
In order for the loot bonus to be better than farming at 200k/200k per raid, how much loot bonus do they have to give us ? 100k loot bonus ?
Impossible.

All the stuff are so expensive. Walls, tesla.
I really doubt the loot bonus will satisfy most players needs.

Anyway, you are lucky to be maxing out your base soon.

Having started playing coc at Jan 2013, i'm going as fast as I can, but I'm just close to maxing out th8 only.
There is a whole load of gold/elixir needed at TH9.

And whats the only way to get resources without gemming ?

Thats right, farming.


Sorry for the long rant.

[MoriartyLives]

I think that folks who believe that SC is trying to kill farming are overreacting. I think that SC is trying to provide an incentive for folks to play at a cup level commensurate with their ability/troop/defense level (within reason) for the purpose of making the clan score a more accurate way of matchmaking for clan vs clan feuding.

Imagine yourself trying to implement clan vs clan battling. One of the most difficult hurdles to overcome is how to perform matchmaking when so many farmers are 200-2000 cups below where they could be if they really wanted to.

I think the loot bonuses are ineffectually small on purpose, because it would be far worse to make them too large and then reduce them (can you hear the uproar?). Loot bonuses are currently not having the intended effect, and I think they'll be raised until they do have the intended effect.

Once some hefty portion of the player base are at a cup level commensurate with their ability to maintain, clan score is a better benchmark of fairness in clan vs clan feuding. Which I believe is the end result of SC's plans that began with leagues. I think they really are trying to give us what we've been asking for.

Now, coming down from the 10,000 foot level... I still don't have any idea why they removed players' level from the chat and I disagree with the reduction in lootable storage from 25% to 20%. I think it should be dramatically higher (50% makes sense to me). When SC says it was intended to help "newer players", I believe "newer players" is a euphemism for "preemie TH9s who want to quit".

[Clashofclanzzzz]

Do you seriously believe SC would eliminate levels without thinking the consequences. I now believe that its all schemed process to make cups more important.

Leader of my clan would get high level players to join from global by showing his 114 level (I am not saying it is his motive, but level helps). He stopped going to global anymore.

He is keen to get the black league shield as a symbol of achievement.

This is only one instance. There would be many many more.

Give it a thought, why would people spend gems and money on the game? To get a sense of achievement. Its a matter of pride to be on top. So make the leader board size 200 instead of 100. More people can compete now with each other, same with no. of clans.

Another issue was, how to make lvl 100+ and others to chase cups. Simple, demean the level they have achieved. Make the league shield new level to be flaunted. Someone properly termed the process as : A competition of my ..... vs. your ...... (SC did not edit, its me).

Still, everyone may not quit farming. What to do? I have an idea, why not reduce loot from storage to 20% and remove inactive accounts from searching (Not regular stuff but pretty brutal). Reduce and even kill the farming, bait them for bonus loot.

Bonus loot is too low, everyone is complaining. Don't worry people, everything going as per plan. We will increase it gradually, more at high cups. Like taking a pound and returning pennies, one at a time.

My take: I am not bothered with all this non sense. Its a good game, my base near max (maybe in 2 months, lol). Enjoy the game and evolve. Remember, when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. Farm 3 weeks and cup hunt one week, work a little harder. Believe it or not, the game has changed and no roll back is coming. The earlier you get it, the better is for you all. The loot may get slightly better since 7-8 days from update have passed.

Please stop making new polls about levels and new threads too (PS: I voted for levels back, but now i know the truth. I swallowed the blue pill)

Uve defo made me think about super cells business brains they don't care about the players they want u buying gems lots and lots of em !! basically u could be playing the game for a week spend $ 2000 on ur base max out !!! then look better then some1 who's been playing for months addicted . Farming to pay for walls upgrades ect all the things he couldn't have got unless he farmed or brought gems lol . I think every 1 should go dwn to 100 trophies just to wind up supercell then we would have everyone with empty cutout shields !! Personally I want levels back .

[kah112]

Certainly a very possible analysis, and a way to steer the mindset of the general population to the intended path, "Trophy Hunting".

A quick 10 mins into matchmaking before the league update shows that majority of the bases that we encounter at 1200~1700 are with TH inside.

Meaning the "farmer" population is actually not that huge.

However, these "farming" players, are actually the majority of the forumites in this forum.

Chances are, casual players who do not do any research on this game, or come to the forums, will not go far.
Maybe 1800 trophy at best ?

So what they are trying to do, as per your analysis, is to kill off the farming population, and hopefully convert all to trophy hunters.

Kinda ironic isn't it ?

They advertise the forum, and ask people to frequent it.
And most people, even if they have they TH inside, after joining the forum and reading base design threads.
Guess what ? They will be converted to farmers themselves.

And the forum is one of their platform to reach out to their players, where players are more vocal and giving feedback, though harsh at times.

So they are unintentionally, killing the people on the forum.

Of course there is an uproar.

Another point I wish to point out is..
Yes, loot bonus can certainly be tweak to be great.

But, what are the odds, that the loot bonus will be so great, such that it will actually be better than farming ?
In order for the loot bonus to be better than farming at 200k/200k per raid, how much loot bonus do they have to give us ? 100k loot bonus ?
Impossible.

All the stuff are so expensive. Walls, tesla.
I really doubt the loot bonus will satisfy most players needs.

Anyway, you are lucky to be maxing out your base soon.

Having started playing coc at Jan 2013, i'm going as fast as I can, but I'm just close to maxing out th8 only.
There is a whole load of gold/elixir needed at TH9.

And whats the only way to get resources without gemming ?

Thats right, farming.


Sorry for the long rant.

true, take me for example, before i became a daily forum reader, i had a premature townhall level 9, first few months i spent more than 400$, damn i came here and started flaming at farmers, without having a clue what the hell it is. few weeks later after reading the forums i became a farmer myself. And believe me, you have no idea how much farming saved me a lot of money, sitting now at a nice village with maxed cannons maxed mortars maxed buildings, my storages are always full. Thank you guys for showing me a different way to play this game.