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    Quote Originally Posted by israelclasher View Post
    So got th10 2 days ago. In those 2 days got 4 lava walls and 1 zap wall, farmed for 2nd inferno and upgrading constantly traps, new AT and cannon. With all that I'm still sitting with about 4m of each.

    My tip is - stop looking for those insane 600k loot raids and settle for 300-400k with loot bonus.
    All these are gold upgrades, I have not read anyone complaining about gold... except for the nexting costs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramb02 View Post
    I was just in Masters 3 last week as a TH10. And I guarantee that you're wrong! Yes there are some THs above 100K but I was still nexting 20-50 times to find one. Also many of the camps with loot above 100K were holding it in storages, well protected with nearly maxed TH10 defenses. So you're going to need to build a Gowiwi/gowiwipe, etc to get to them. Or I was using loonian, but would need to use 4 spells to get most of it. So now I've blown over 100K in spell cost alone, plus another 100K on balloons. So while you could find some gold and DE profit in it, there is still little elixir to earn.
    I will be more explicit. Kez said that he would raid everything above 100k.

    I guarantee that every base in Master 3 and above offers at least 100k of both gold and elixir plus 500DE in the form of league bonus. All you have to do is to win an attack. If you win you get the league bonus plus possibly some loot.

    If you use light army you get the league bonus plus small loot. If you use gowi* plus spells you can get also loot form storages. I have no idea if using gowi* for farming in Masters is profitable but barch is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightondon View Post
    I tend to hangout in Masters League all the time and I can tell ya for a fact that I see bases all the time with less than 100k total. I've also seen bases with less than 50k total.
    Thats what I don't get, if you have 500K in your storages you are showing 50k + whatever is you get from your mines and pumps. Now at TH9, 500k is nothing you need millions to get anything done. How can so many people be sitting on so little gold?

    I really keep coming back to the only way that is possible is if SC is adjusting the numbers. Like multiplying the real total my .5 or something crazy like that.

    I mean even if you log out after doing a major upgrade. You can't have 0, or if you do, you can't tell me that everyone does that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonioca View Post
    Thats what I don't get, if you have 500K in your storages you are showing 50k + whatever is you get from your mines and pumps. Now at TH9, 500k is nothing you need millions to get anything done. How can so many people be sitting on so little gold?

    I really keep coming back to the only way that is possible is if SC is adjusting the numbers. Like multiplying the real total my .5 or something crazy like that.

    I mean even if you log out after doing a major upgrade. You can't have 0, or if you do, you can't tell me that everyone does that.
    People with loot leave their townhalls outside and they get sniped quickly. Israelclasher plays this game more then I can get work out of my staff and probably gems all the while. Good luck finding loot amongst the remnants of empty bases.

    I am currently in champs right now, my attack logs are crammed with <25k of each for loot taken. I am making gold due to bonus and elixir is very slowly going up about 30k to 50k a raid if i dont go spell crazy. I only need to win another 200 times to upgrade one elixir upgrade! This is so much fun!

    Edit: only reason I am KEEPING my resources is because my TH is outside and i keep getting sniped. Great game mechanics... Scrounge for easy bases to gibarch, live off bonuses, keep TH outside for snipe! Even in champs... Someone tell me... Why do I build a base and upgrade my defenses and walls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonioca View Post
    Thats what I don't get, if you have 500K in your storages you are showing 50k + whatever is you get from your mines and pumps. Now at TH9, 500k is nothing you need millions to get anything done. How can so many people be sitting on so little gold?

    I really keep coming back to the only way that is possible is if SC is adjusting the numbers. Like multiplying the real total my .5 or something crazy like that.

    I mean even if you log out after doing a major upgrade. You can't have 0, or if you do, you can't tell me that everyone does that.
    Personally using elixir for walls has tons to do with the loot issue of course. You don't see many farming bases in Masters III either. I have at times been sitting at like 50k gold or less, but that was only after a big upgrade and same goes with elixir, so I can see it happening and I really don't see those bases with less than 100k too often but they do pop up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wip3ed View Post
    I have never said the economy isn't broken. Once a game is freemium something is broken.

    It makes sense to SuperCell economically that players have their TownHalls inside. The players that pays a premium never put their townhall out. And now you suggest that SuperCell change the game so it is possible to farm while you have it inside. Why buy gems if you can afford everything while you play the game the way you are used to?

    Or did I miss something here? Maybe you want other players that have not reached your level to slow down or stop their farming all togeter? Or do you just want their THs inside so you can ride their storrages that used to be well filled but wont be anymore since it would be impossible to save up resources?
    Incentivising players to protect their TH does not force them to pull it in. That's the beauty of these ideas; they give the player the option to weigh the cost-benefits of either keeping their TH inside or outside, depending on how they see themselves playing over the next few days, whether they're saving up for something big and know they won't be doing much session farming, etc. There should be at least a modicum of strategy in base layout in that sense, other than "if you protect your TH you inherently do not know what you're doing" as there is no benefit to it, unless maybe you're in high Masters/Champs and have a developed TH10 base.

    We want to create a farming barrier between us and people below us with this idea? Wut? Remember how impossible it was to farm bases and progress when you had your TH inside at TH6,7, maybe even 8 b/c you still weren't familiar with the best strategy (free shields)? You'd get hit for big loot and it was just completely impossible to recover that plus millions more in a farming session.

    Because I don't.

    So if this went through, you are assuming that people who now protect their THs are just going to completely run dry. They're going to put up nonstop 35% defenses losing 3-4 storages of loot each time and no one will ever put up a shield on them. And if they do happen to activate their shield, now with this new update players have suddenly begun huffing paint to extreme levels and just keep rebreaking their shields and logging off before farming again, so it's just a nonstop pillaging of their base.

    We just want to SEE these bases in the matchmaking queues. As we have it now they are all just hiding under these cheap shields. We don't get a chance to even hit them as almost every time someone just hits the TH with a few troops because SC's updates have caused us to use troops that most wouldn't want to bother going for those storages, plus the league bonus makes dropping those few troops very profitable despite how many times they Nexted until they came across it. And even if what you say would happen regarding getting hit constantly (it wouldn't), I would much rather have the problem of protecting my loot from raiders, than the current problem which is that it's just impossible to farm the loot for the upgrades in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonioca View Post
    Thats what I don't get, if you have 500K in your storages you are showing 50k + whatever is you get from your mines and pumps. Now at TH9, 500k is nothing you need millions to get anything done. How can so many people be sitting on so little gold?

    I really keep coming back to the only way that is possible is if SC is adjusting the numbers. Like multiplying the real total my .5 or something crazy like that.

    I mean even if you log out after doing a major upgrade. You can't have 0, or if you do, you can't tell me that everyone does that.
    If this were true, it would be easy to verify. Simply make a note of people's IGN and clan name as you press the next button. Then go back and look them up. Press info on their storages and add up the resources. Then compare to what you saw on the raid screens.

    Personally, I think people are just dumping resources into walls, though.

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    I was never able to do a single wall with elixir since the update ... I'm pushing and got to 3600 , been loosing elixir with every raid .

    Not sure how this elixir on walls is a good idea .

    few players had excess elixir before the updatd, that wasnt a big deal but after the update majority have a problem with shortage of elixir which is a very big deal.. even those who had excess elixir before the update are having a hard time gathering elixir .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightondon View Post
    I tend to hangout in Masters League all the time and I can tell ya for a fact that I see bases all the time with less than 100k total. I've also seen bases with less than 50k total.
    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcman View Post
    People with loot leave their townhalls outside and they get sniped quickly. Israelclasher plays this game more then I can get work out of my staff and probably gems all the while. Good luck finding loot amongst the remnants of empty bases.

    I am currently in champs right now, my attack logs are crammed with <25k of each for loot taken. I am making gold due to bonus and elixir is very slowly going up about 30k to 50k a raid if i dont go spell crazy. I only need to win another 200 times to upgrade one elixir upgrade! This is so much fun!

    Edit: only reason I am KEEPING my resources is because my TH is outside and i keep getting sniped. Great game mechanics... Scrounge for easy bases to gibarch, live off bonuses, keep TH outside for snipe! Even in champs... Someone tell me... Why do I build a base and upgrade my defenses and walls?
    Yep, really need to get rid of shields from the town hall being destroyed. A lot of people don't like the idea because then they'll lose loot, but it's a small price to pay to see bases again that actually have something worth taking.

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