The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

[Perseverance]

This is completely false past TH8.

It only takes 5 months of build time with 5 builders to completely max TH9.

Not including walls, it would take your max collectors well over 4 years to produce enough resources to max TH9.

If you include walls, it would take over 7 years for your collectors to produce enough resources to max TH9.

And this is just TH9. We're not even talking about TH10 yet (which only takes 6.6 months of builder time with 5 builders to max). Do you know how much upgrades and walls cost at TH10?

So where is this bottleneck again that you speak of? Oh, that's right, it's for TH8 and below, which is why people tell you that if you're TH8 or below, stop telling TH10's "there is no loot problem," because your opinion on the matter is irrelevant to the discussion.

Wait.... She's a th8 ??♥♥♥♥ !!! My goodness, in that case, of course there is no loot problem. Bless her soul lol

[Perseverance]

This is actually the biggest concern as far as I see it. If you have nothing to lose, then why stop nexting? Right now you might not settle for something less than 100k gold for instance, but if the cost of nexting is removed, then why not not stop nexting until you find 200k, 300k+ etc etc, thus decreasing the amount of attacks considerably? You'll always have the prospect of something better, this is the reason why I don't see it happening in a near future.
And I'm not saying that the cost of nexting does not get high at higher levels, it does but not sure if removing it completely makes 100% sense either

Even though the next cost would be removed, it wouldn't make nexting any more 'fun', so although it would be completely free to next, we would sit and next for 30 minutes, as opposed to 20. Is going back to the loot system pre-December out of the question ? (Pardon my ignorance if it has been stated already, as I have looked and looked, but found nothing)

[Beancounter]

This is actually the biggest concern as far as I see it. If you have nothing to lose, then why stop nexting? Right now you might not settle for something less than 100k gold for instance, but if the cost of nexting is removed, then why not not stop nexting until you find 200k, 300k+ etc etc, thus decreasing the amount of attacks considerably? You'll always have the prospect of something better, this is the reason why I don't see it happening in a near future.
And I'm not saying that the cost of nexting does not get high at higher levels, it does but not sure if removing it completely makes 100% sense either

Agree. Nexting is more a symptom then the cause. The issue is the lack of viable targets! Next is boring, takes the fun out of the game! Whether it is 1000, 500 or free!

Edit: though lower nexting cost would remove a lot of the fustration. Still, fix the issue with viable targets!

[salvador2285]

Last 2 days is ok for me as th 10. I could survive.

And i have complain a lot about the loot issue...btw we only need a bit loot, and all customers-company will be happy.

[Ed2088]

Agree. Nexting is more a symptom then the cause. The issue is the lack of viable targets! Next is boring, takes the fun out of the game! Whether it is 1000, 500 or free!

Edit: though lower nexting cost would remove a lot of the fustration. Still, fix the issue with viable targets!

Fully agree!
It is also true that a th 9 or th 10 shouldn't be loss making on an attack because of nexting costs and not finding a "decent base" (for me decent is a BARChable base without spell with about 250k loot).

[Perseverance]

No the context of the pic was a person asking for my log with headstones in view.

I do not devote my entire life to this game. Casual or hardcore varies on a day to day basis.

If I was bragging I would have also included this pic where my XP is a week or so away from the one displayed with the headstone. Oh look the pic is casual with awesome loots.

Has over 3500 posts, aspires to be a moderator by policing forum ALL DAY and defending SC at all costs no matter what. Even posts at 2 in the morning. Nope, you don't devote your life at all ♥♥♥♥.

Probably reading this right now, but won't reply all day to make it seems as if he is 'busy' If it makes you feel any better, I'd say you should have gotten moderator a long time ago. There your life is complete.

[Warble]

This is completely false past TH8.

It only takes 5 months of build time with 5 builders to completely max TH9.

Not including walls, it would take your max collectors well over 4 years to produce enough resources to max TH9.

If you include walls, it would take over 7 years for your collectors to produce enough resources to max TH9.

And this is just TH9. We're not even talking about TH10 yet (which only takes 6.6 months of builder time with 5 builders to max). Do you know how much upgrades and walls cost at TH10?

So where is this bottleneck again that you speak of? Oh, that's right, it's for TH8 and below, which is why people tell you that if you're TH8 or below, stop telling TH10's "there is no loot problem," because your opinion on the matter is irrelevant to the discussion.

I think that's false at th8 as well. I have max collectors and I couldn't keep all 5 builders going off my collectors alone.

[Arrow1993]

This is actually the biggest concern as far as I see it. If you have nothing to lose, then why stop nexting? Right now you might not settle for something less than 100k gold for instance, but if the cost of nexting is removed, then why not not stop nexting until you find 200k, 300k+ etc etc, thus decreasing the amount of attacks considerably? You'll always have the prospect of something better, this is the reason why I don't see it happening in a near future.
And I'm not saying that the cost of nexting does not get high at higher levels, it does but not sure if removing it completely makes 100% sense either

Well, I started with the weakest argument first to end on my stronger point. Obviously search cost shouldn't be entirely removed, but it shouldn't be as high. The loot penalty increases already exponentially and on top of that the search cost does as well (750->1000 as TH10).

Removed, no. Substantially lowered, yes.

You are also faced with the gambler atittude: "I have spend so much already on search costs and still see no base that makes it worth my gold and time, so why not next once more...". Don't forget: the cost of search is gold AND time. If someone decides to hit high loot bases, they already invest tons of time. Others whom are happy with say 100k bases will invest less time. The big issue is the high search cost. You easily hit 50-70 times within 15 minutes to settle for a base you aren't happy with. Invested time isn't as bad (it's a game after all), but when it takes a chunk of your gold away once again it can get very frustrating.

I understand where you are comig from though, so a complete removal wouldn't be good either, need a (small) detterence from nexting like a mad man.

Tl;dr: now you invest time AND gold. I would like to see us investing time instead of gold.

On another note, I'd love to see a response to the second part (more important part) of my post please ! It would make my day.

King Midas
Insurgence Family

[Anoushka[Supercell]]

Even though the next cost would be removed, it wouldn't make nexting any more 'fun', so although it would be completely free to next, we would sit and next for 30 minutes, as opposed to 20. Is going back to the loot system pre-December out of the question ? (Pardon my ignorance if it has been stated already, as I have looked and looked, but found nothing)

I'm not saying it would be fun, it would be equally frustrating but by being free, it also makes it more endurable.
Going back to an old loot system I think it's out of the question, changes should be made on a "moving forward" logic, with new balances and adjusted to the current state of the game, not what it was back then. Just my opinion here

[Warble]

Wait.... She's a th8 ??♥♥♥♥ !!! My goodness, in that case, of course there is no loot problem. Bless her soul lol

Sorry for the double post, but actually there's times it's hard to find loot as a th8 as well. There are times all I can find is 60k total loot bases, and you're obviously not getting anywhere with that at any th level.

Kind of come off like a condescending jerk though.... just sayin.