The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

[Superfinch30]

It frustrates us to see the game is being destroyed by a company who deliberately ignores the issues of such a large group of player.

And even though we hate the game right now, we continue playing it because we are already too addicted to stop playing or just hope they finally actually DO something about it instead of "monitoring" it (which is just another word for saying "we don't care" about your opinion.)

That, i dont disagree with in the slightest.

[Nomorenextingcost]

You're right, what works for me may not for others. That's why I write up guides for others to follow which give tips on what else people can do ( look in my sig )

My advice for you;

- Check my sig for league farming tips.

Miniballs

- Use 16-20 loons only, this is a 32-40 min build time, but, it will both get you more storages than barch/bam/archers, whilst gaining you the loot bonus of M3.

- Getting the win is difficult at first, this is why you practice. Practice makes perfect after all. Surely you had to practice to barch/giant raid/gowipe/all drags/etc etc. If it gets you more loot I don't see how taking a week or two to get comfortable with loonions is not a viable option.

- No need for spells or heroes when looning, once you have practiced enough, trust me you will only use 1 spell max a raid, and heroes only used to pick off the last 1-10%.

- Failing all that.. Back to barch I suppose. I firmly believe anyone can drop 3-4 balloons on archer towers, then spread minions around a base, then use what's left to grab storages. If you can't then I am sorry. I guess I cannot help you anymore.

i understand what you are saying. I have watched farming guides on all arch or miniball from some nice youtubers (witelightningHWD). I have used some of your tips when farming in c1 today and also to get there in the first place.

while I agree that farming in c1 is effective, thing is that the loot is extremely inconsistent now. Your loot guide would have worked very well around 1 mth ago and around the time of your post. However, many things have changed in c1 since.

1. Snipes are very rare to find now (once every 15 mins or so)
2. Th7/8 are almost never seen (once every 20 minutes or so)
3. Inactives are very rare
4. Lack of exposed storages (most bases are preemie th10 with gold walls and offering little)
5. There are not many bases that are easy to barch/ all arch on. Some are easier than others but their defences are rather concentrated and I usually have to use heroes/lightning/cc to get the 50%, even then it was still very clutch.

maybe I have to be more confident in my attack and go for unfamiliar bases for practise. I am just afraid of loosing as 1 Loss sets me back a lot considering how difficult the bases are. I'm only a th9 with a bk10 and an aq8 so my heroes are quite weak for where I'm farming which doesn't do me any favours.

As for loonion, I have been wanting to try them out for farming for quite some time as they are really good but the elixir cost and the training time is holding me back. Getting to m2 is also really difficult since I'm not very confident in my attack and since there aren't many easy bases for me to attack it will take some time to get there,

maintaining a high trophy count is also really difficult since you practically have to win every raid which I won't be able to do since I'm practising as a th9 with rather crappy heros. Considering loonions take 40 minutes to train, it may not be very time efficient either considering I need to win cups to push quickly, I could try boosting raxs but I don't have money to spend

i respect that you and other high level farmers are having success with loonions but the majority of players aren't. If they were, they would have already gone to champs but they have not as loot is still good for you.

the thing is many peeps still farm at lower leagues since high league play is stressful and requires session playing and constant boosting which many peeps can't afford to do. The inconsistency of loot is not helping matters either.

sorry for the rant and I appreciate your help.

[Nomorenextingcost]

Whether or not people are exaggerating it, there is a problem with this game that is beginning to alarm me. Say what you want, but there is an overwhelming amount of people who are clearly not enjoying the game as much as they used to, as a result of how much of an all out grind it is to put together a good raiding session; whether boosted, or not. One can argue that the only people that are capable of carrying good loot, are too smart to leave their storages full, and will usually have a plan to empty them before logging off. Combine that with inactive bases being pushed back, and what do you have left in your search? Do casual players ever have more than a million resources in their storages? I seriously doubt it. I have been pushing to masters this weekend, and I started the push while I was floating around 1800-1850 on Friday. I am currently at 2520 and throughout my entire push, I can count on one hand, how many 200k bases I found on the way to C1. I was just met with a plethora of 75k 60k 200 bases from G1 all the way to Crystal 1. If I was to run in to a base with great loot, yup, you guessed it; th10 lvl 3 infernos. I'm a mid th9. Even with loonion+ hound, what can I possibly take from that base? Not to mention, I'd lose the damn raid as well. The game has plateaued to the point where I am losing interest in it. To all the people finding fantastic loot everyday, I'm happy for you. I'm speaking on behalf of my experience, and everyone else who is experiencing the same thing I am.

EXACTLY, I'm in the same position as you are

[PaleRider]

CoC is clearly not for you man. You trollin or what?

Lol, pot meet kettle.

[Godzilla86]

but until then “we’re looking into it” is the only thing I can say

You have been saying this since the December update...That's 9 months.
And with every update, the loot has become worse and worse.

"We are monitoring the situation"
"We are keeping a close eye on the economy"
"We are looking into it"

How much time does it need?
Think we have enough patience already...

[Superfinch30]

Dont make me dig up exact quotes, they are there somewhere. We have to remember, SC never really envisaged intensive farming. Its not how they intended the game to be played.
Recently my clan has had a few people join that knew each other from old disbanded clans, all with a similar play style. They hang around in masters, have medium th10s, attack between once and 5 times a day, using whatever troop comps amuse them. Obviously they get some loot, but not enough to hammer out max level upgrades constantly, and if theres something they want enough, they will gem it.
These are the people playing the game as SC imagined. Its why they introduced leagues and bonus, to attempt to make players more competative and stay in 🏆 ranges appropriate to level. We know that its not the fastest way to progress, just as we know the current loot economy isnt sufficient to support intensive farming.
But when they analyse/monitor the loot for months on end, they will probably find it is perfectly adequate for what they intended.

[Chiefthawk]

"We are monitoring the situation"
"We are keeping a close eye on the economy"
"We are looking into it"

How much time does it need?
Think we have enough patience already...

What this means is:

"We are tracking income from gems"
"We are tracking income from gems"
"We are tracking income from gems"

The ONLY way anything will change is if income drops.

[Shampoo4u]

To all the th 10's (and supercell employee's) that say they are finding good raids, this post will be painful.

the facts are simple, clashers are using there loot to build walls and little else. Which means you need a more expensive army to breach those walls. We all know that, the best defence is no loot in the base- so build more walls....

with the inactive accounts gone (haven't seen one since the patch/upgrade) a major source of loot for upgrades is gone.

eventually the loot will return as walls max out, but you can't breach those maxed walls with barbs and archers, you need more expensive troops, meaning your return on each raid is less.

The solution is simple, make a huge loot bonus for 3 starring a base- perhaps doubling or tripling the loot taken, a little less for 2 star, and nothing for a single star (bite me town hall snipers). This would allow clashers to go into battle with full armies, instead of the boring old barch.

This is will keep us clashing, even with lower loot in the base.

[Perseverance]

Dont make me dig up exact quotes, they are there somewhere. We have to remember, SC never really envisaged intensive farming. Its not how they intended the game to be played.
Recently my clan has had a few people join that knew each other from old disbanded clans, all with a similar play style. They hang around in masters, have medium th10s, attack between once and 5 times a day, using whatever troop comps amuse them. Obviously they get some loot, but not enough to hammer out max level upgrades constantly, and if theres something they want enough, they will gem it.
These are the people playing the game as SC imagined. Its why they introduced leagues and bonus, to attempt to make players more competative and stay in 🏆 ranges appropriate to level. We know that its not the fastest way to progress, just as we know the current loot economy isnt sufficient to support intensive farming.
But when they analyse/monitor the loot for months on end, they will probably find it is perfectly adequate for what they intended.

I'm sorry, but if this game wasn't intended to be a grind fest to upgrade high level buildings, then how in the world do you propose they thought people would get it done? Your argument is that SC made a game that is only playable until th7 and then from there, only the use of gems will get you upgrades? I suppose their target audience with this business plan model is billionaires or morons with cash from mommy and daddy.

[wip3ed]

If we weren't doing anything or even thinking about this subject, we would say it plainly, explain the reason and close every thread related to the current topic - that is not the case here. However, I’m not gonna publicly discuss every meeting we have with the team, every idea or suggestion proposed (that might or might not see the light of the day) and especially not going to give you the idea that the most revolutionary loot change is coming, when it can be far from it.

As soon as we have a more concrete response we will be more than glad to inform everyone and I know this is disappointing to you (+ that this sort of answers from us = nothing) but until then “we’re looking into it” is the only thing I can say

I would like to believe you, but why on earth would you introduce elixirdumping in the latest update if you really cared?