The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

[andrgin]

1.) During the last boosts all Storages where full. During this boost all Storages where empty. I did not notice a Change even on the last day of the boost. People simply do not seem to Keep ressources in their Storages.

2.) The loot at th9 for me was great the last week (not considering the first days after the update), but the loot was only in the mines. You have to search longer and do not get full Storages, but if you find a base with loot, the loot is much better than before especially Gold. This seems to be because Supercell is compensating for the bad storage loot by pushing inactive bases in the Queue.

3.) I also have Problems with some members because their Storages are low during clan war. With so much nexting the Players with faster devices really have an Advantage.

[carlito]

Follow-up question:

If you were a business-owner providing a service free of charge and I'd be making use of that service for a prolonged period of time without (hardly) spending any money on supporting that business, would you think I'd be entitled to complain about your service?

Yes, of course. We all have our roles to play. If what you have to say will help me retain and grow my customer base, would I not be a fool if I ignored you?

My activity on here, in the game (where I built a number of clans and run one of the longest standing clans in the game) and on Youtube, for which I get no remuneration, helps promote SC and drive activity into the game which will drive revenue. If all the "free" players left tomorrow, it would be quite a boring game...dead clans...no bases to raid unless SC released all the inactives...etc etc etc

The notion that only players that buy gems have the right to complain about things in the game is ludicrous and thankfully SC dont hold your values. If they did the game would not be as popular as it is nor would it be as good!

[dragandewhy]

Follow-up question:

If you were a business-owner providing a service free of charge and I'd be making use of that service for a prolonged period of time without (hardly) spending any money on supporting that business, would you think I'd be entitled to complain about your service?

yes but this is the virtual world....you make things in any way you want ...the price of nexting does not make sense. ...where is the gold going then????

[Jcman]

The answers to this games many problems are terribly easy to fix.


These are my top 12 ways to fix the game off the top of my head, not specifically in order of importance:



1. Add importance to the townhall. Make 25% of loot come from the townhall. Or add a minimum % before a 1st star. Both will get those townhalls inside and bring back a TON of resources into circulation. Townhall sniping is one of the worst features in the entire game for many reasons.

2. Add extra bonus loot for more stars... A townhall snipe or a 50% barch is not worth the bonus a hugely expensive mass dragon or gowiwi 3 star gets.

3. Increase collector output... Increase league bonuses in general... It is woefully inadequate

4. Queue spells.. Why in the world cant we queue spells, we boost our spell factory, but while we search for 15 to 30 minutes for a base to hit it does nothing. There is no excuse for not being able to queue spells. Half our spell factory boosts are wasted for no reason. Troops are mostly cooked then we have to wait completely for spells... Sillyness

5. Make elixir usable for only level 10 or 11 walls. At least then you dont destroy the elixir economy. As it currently stands, once big elixir upgrades are done, bases with walls less then level 10 will never have enough elixir to cover a proper storage raiding army.

6. Make winning a defense worth something! Right now all it means is you get some cups that mean nothing and a big re arming traps bill, OR lots of resources lost from multiple attacks AND a rearming bill from multiple raids potentially.

7. Lower trap re arming significantly, Last time i re armed it was a 176000 gold bill and my traps arent maxed... That is insane... I have to raid potentially two times to break even and cover the next re arming...

8. Improve units AI... They are woefully stupid... Constantly attacking walls when a route exists, or ignoring a building and hitting a wall, or pounding a wall or building instead of defending themselves from troops attacking them. Troops stack on top of eachother perfectly for that mortar blast... A little random placement for the archers would be nice. Healers.... Heroes... List goes on...

9. Make clan searching usable... People have no resource to advertise their clan in game, and people have to stumble around to find a good clan. Huge improvements can be made here.

10. Creative chat channels based on levels or trophies, clan alliances, looking for clan, leagues, etc... Global is essentially useless. CoC is a hugely popular game, these functions exist in every other MMO, it is time for CoC to get with the picture. Let people check the channels they want to join to be in multiple channels at once.

11. Trophy system and play above 3500 is broken in so many ways it needs another 10 ways to fix that by itself.

12. Nexting system.. On a win, the nexting gold could be returned to you, on a loss it goes to the defense would be a great help. Or if you skip a base, the gold goes to that base potentially. Nexting is a mess and has too many issues to tackle in this post.

[timmytheturtle2310]

Its about 2 weeks after the update and I'm finding that for the loot is INCREDIBLE at about 1200 - 1400 trophies. It can sometimes take about 5-10 min to find a good base, but for some reason there are so many people down here that have not been online for a long time.(Being down here is also great because if you ever lose too many trophies than you go to your defense log, look at one of the th6s that attacked you, and revenge them for 45 - 50 trophies.)

[cai21]

Its about 2 weeks after the update and I'm finding that for the loot is INCREDIBLE at about 1200 - 1400 trophies. It can sometimes take about 5-10 min to find a good base, but for some reason there are so many people down here that have not been online for a long time.(Being down here is also great because if you ever lose too many trophies than you go to your defense log, look at one of the th6s that attacked you, and revenge them for 45 - 50 trophies.)

Do you mind sharing what TH level you are? Most of the loot issue if with TH9/10. TH8 should still be finding good loot although maybe not as good as before.

[Cyberstorm]

This is what I think about loot. This is just my opinion so don't flame me for it.

Many people rely on dead bases for loot (mostly barchers). It's pretty obvious why. Collector attacks are easy and can be executed using only barch, which is quick and cheap. Plus, dead bases usually give out more loot than regular bases. I've seen many people complaining: "SE, give us back our dead bases!". Supercell has admitted that the algorithms for searching weigh active base more than dead bases. However, I feel that this game shouldn't be based solely on dead bases like many people want. Attacking dead bases is attacking nobody. The whole point of the game is to attack other players, so I would support Supercell making it harder to find dead bases. But, I have to admit, dead bases are awesome. Free loot.

Then there are storage raids. Storage raids are unarguably harder to pull off, as the storage is deeper inside the base. But the thing is, storage bases are also a little hard to find, for 2 reasons:

1.) Farming bases. Most hardcore farmers use them, and it is the hardcore farmers that usually have full storages. All the storages worth raiding are usually behind shields, as there are many multitudes of trophy pushers who would happily take trophies from a farmer for free.

2.) People spend resources. This isn't as big of a reason as shields, but it is a reason. Whenever someone logs off, they usually either have enough resources saved up for an upgrade and spend them, or dump some resources into walls.

Some things I think Supercell should do:

1.) Shorten the shield for town hall sniping to 8 hours, but if someone gets the town hall and 40% they still give a 12 hour shield

2.) Give a bigger league bonus. Earn 1x Current Bonus for one star, 2x Current Bonus for 2 star, 3x Current Bonus for 3 star

3.) Add new collector levels for th9 and 10.

4.) Add an achievement for upgrading collectors

5.) Goblin maps get a defensive upgrade after being 3*ed, and can be attacked again for more loot.

6.) Add more goblin maps

7.) MASTERMIND'S QUESTS (I just want them )

[youwire]

I am finding many inactive bases since yesterday.
Don't you guys feel the same?

Time to give SC credits.

[cai21]

And for those that don't think SC cares about us players whining;

I'm sure they are aware of how discontent the player community is. And with discontent, players will find other games to play. Within time, CoC will lose enough players that it will become just another one of those games that had a good run.

I personally don't want to see this happen because I truly "did" enjoy the game. I'm still hoping for a fix so that I can keep playing this game. But the reality is that there are many options for people if this game becomes too boring.

[Lescant]

Every time we get a gem boost they lose quite a decent sum of money. If you haven't noticed gems are how supercell makes money. What you're saying is a bit greedy and to be honest I think your tired of waiting : )