Ice Phoenix

[HiFliya]

Wow really?

Awesome idea but something a lot like this has already been ruled out by Supercell i believe

I read the “Ruled Out” List. The only thing that it violates is that the troop is called a “Phoenix,” in which “phoenix” has been ruled out.

So I came up with several names for this troop that hopefully doesn’t violate anything.

Ice Ghost
Ghost
Snow Angel
Winter Wraith
Wraith
Basiliskus

How about Ice Flyer?




(Couldnt think of anything that would be a suitable replacement for phoenix )

Phoenixes are not ruled out, jut frequently requested, scroll down all the way to get the real Ruled Out Ideas list.

I really like this idea but what happens after it is done phasing into a defense does it move on to another one or stay there until either the structure of itself is taken down?

Its stays on the same defense until it is destroyed.

[faby1105]

I have nothing to oppose this idea! It makes sense, its balanced, and it would be awesome if it's added to the game!

[jobro]

Phoenixes are not ruled out, jut frequently requested, scroll down all the way to get the real Ruled Out Ideas list.


Its stays on the same defense until it is destroyed.

Ahh, ok, i saw, i thought it was ruled out. This is a great idea, deserves even more attention (just like my Pyro Mage troop)
GO TO THE LINK IN MY SIG PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

[HiFliya]

Updated OP to add in new levels and Clear up some clarity issues regarding targeting mechanics

[RagnartheGreat]

So my idea goes as follows,

The ice phoenix would be a troop that targets defenses primarily (stay with me here, i know hogs giants and golems all do this already) However deal no damage whatsoever. Instead the phoenix will phase through defense structures, temporarily freezing them only while the Phoenix is phasing through it. The phoenix will make a small circle about maybe three or four tiles, to let the Defense still get attacks through target the same defense.

Edit: The Speed of the Pheonix renders the freezing for a short period of time, literally less than 2-3 seconds if my estimates on the movement speed is right vs the size of defenses. Also, apparently there is some confusion regarding the targeting of the IP, The phoenix will stay locked onto the same defense until it is destroyed by other troops. Like the healer, if it is the last troop standing, the battle will automatically end as it cannot deal damage by itself. Like Hogs and Balloons, If all defenses are down, then they are free to target CC troops and heroes as their AI allows them to, (Defenses>Heroes and CC troops> Other Buildings)

Optimally, the phoenix will go for like cannons or wizard towers that have a quick attack speed minimizing the number of shots that it can get off before the giants and hogs reach it. The worst case scenario would be that it would "Freeze" a mortar, where the Attack speed is so slow, the phoenix would be useless.

Stats:
Level 1
Name of Troop: Ice Phoenix
Training Cost (DE):150 DE
Troop Type: Air
Training Time: 25min
Housing Space: 20
Damage per second: 0
Hit Points: 350 (Because this Troop is made of Ice, Inferno Towers do 1.5 times Damage against it)
Movement Speed: 12
Upgrade Cost: N/A
Ability: When this troop dies, It will descend to the defensive tower that it is attacking and form glaciers around the tower and decrease firing speed by 1.5x (so a level 5 mortar fires every seven and a half seconds and at a lower DPS to compensate for the damage gain)

Level 2
Training Cost (DE):170 DE
Troop Type: Air
Training Time: 25min
Housing Space: 20
Damage per second: 0
Hit Points: 400 (Because this Troop is made of Ice, Inferno Towers do 1.5 times Damage against it)
Movement Speed: 12
Upgrade Cost: 65,000 DE
Time: 10 Days
Lab Level Required: 9

Level 3
Training Cost (DE):150 DE
Troop Type: Air
Training Time: 25min
Housing Space: 20
Damage per second: 0
Hit Points: 475 (Because this Troop is made of Ice, Inferno Towers do 1.5 times Damage against it)
Movement Speed: 12
Upgrade Cost: 75,000 DE
Time: 12 Days
Lab Level Required: 9

Description
This beast of the North, has the unique ability to become a freezing mist! Call down Its power and watch your opponents Defense freeze before it!

Anyways Comment any and all feedback as it is all welcome. Thanks for reading
Hi-Fliya

I don’t really see anyone challenge this...

Here is an army that may as well be considered OP, with the Ice Phoenix among them.

1 Lava Hound, 2 IPs, 4 Dragons, the Rest Archers, Wall breakers, other regular extras, BK, and AQ. 1 Heal Spell the rest Rage Spell
Plant Lava Hound in which it is aimed at the nearest Air Defense, then follow it up with IPs. IPs will disable/reduce firing rates of either the Air Defense, or nearby Defenses. If an Archer Tower or other Air threat is in range, deploy Dragons. As Dragons are faster than the IPs, they will get past its line. The Lava Hound can take care of the Air Defense in a few seconds. You follow it up with Dragons. The IPs will take care of near threats while Dragons mow everything down. In the meantime, The Lava hound has probably triggered many Air traps due to flying around for those Air Defenses, leaving the Dragons prone to Defense damage primarily. Deploy all Archers in the area that has not been mowed down, as well as other troops, your BK, and AQ.

This will at least score 1 star for almost every base.

This army can work on many kinds of bases with ease.

Though, I have an idea that can fix this:
When an Ice Phoenix is freezing something, If a Dragon/Lava hound attacks what it is freezing the Frozen effect will be disabled until the ICe Phoenix phases again.

This might make it UP but I see it as the best way.

[HiFliya]

I don’t really see anyone challenge this...

Here is an army that may as well be considered OP, with the Ice Phoenix among them.

1 Lava Hound, 2 IPs, 4 Dragons, the Rest Archers, Wall breakers, other regular extras, BK, and AQ. 1 Heal Spell the rest Rage Spell
Plant Lava Hound in which it is aimed at the nearest Air Defense, then follow it up with IPs. IPs will disable/reduce firing rates of either the Air Defense, or nearby Defenses. If an Archer Tower or other Air threat is in range, deploy Dragons. As Dragons are faster than the IPs, they will get past its line. The Lava Hound can take care of the Air Defense in a few seconds. You follow it up with Dragons. The IPs will take care of near threats while Dragons mow everything down. In the meantime, The Lava hound has probably triggered many Air traps due to flying around for those Air Defenses, leaving the Dragons prone to Defense damage primarily. Deploy all Archers in the area that has not been mowed down, as well as other troops, your BK, and AQ.

This will at least score 1 star for almost every base.

This army can work on many kinds of bases with ease.

Though, I have an idea that can fix this:
When an Ice Phoenix is freezing something, If a Dragon/Lava hound attacks what it is freezing the Frozen effect will be disabled until the ICe Phoenix phases again.

This might make it UP but I see it as the best way.

Okay I see what you are trying to get at, however you are wrong about a couple things and missing a few other things. The Lava Hound won't take care of an AD few seconds. A level 3 Lava Hound does 28 damage per attack, while a max level AD has 1170 HP, so it takes around 41 seconds for a lava hound to take down 1 AD.A Full Th10 has 4. Not to mention, CC troops, a Queen,Seeking Air Mines, Infernos, X-Bows and other AD in the Area. Your whole strategy depends on the assumption that CCs are empty and Heroes are Down for the battle. If an Inferno was set to single, it would fry a hound in a matter of seconds with backup, same thing with opposing heroes and dragons. x-bows could take down an IP in a couple seconds with its impressive range, and the queen can snipe em down too. Dragons, from what i hear are not that reliable once you get to high TH9-Th10, assuming max defenses and high level heroes. Im a Th8, so i have no idea the power of lvl 4 dragons at that level.


Even with Rage/Heal spells, it would take some serious skill to get past max defenses with that army set up. Maybe Freeze/Heal would make the army comp OP, but thats a lot of elixir/DE as well as time. (Assuming all Barracks are Max- 30 minutes + change for regular barracks, 45 minutes on on DB, 50 minutes on the Other, And then Spells. Probably crucial in this setup and 5 spells is about 3 hours to make assuming 4, 45 minute spells

I see the implications that the IP might be OP in some army comps, but isn't that the case right now? GoWiWi, QuatroLavaloonion, can get 1 star on most bases, if not all, so what's the difference between this and those comps?

[Cocoloco]

Good idea sorry I kind of posted the same thing before I knew you posted this. you commented on my thread: "I heard my name being typed". I think this is a cool idea and definitely should be added. your thread has a lot more detail. Keep up the good work and make sure supercell reads it,OK.

[HiFliya]

Good idea sorry I kind of posted the same thing before I knew you posted this. you commented on my thread: "I heard my name being typed". I think this is a cool idea and definitely should be added. your thread has a lot more detail. Keep up the good work and make sure supercell reads it,OK.

Thanks for the input! Lol a lot of people now adays are posting similar ideas, so no problem on that. Thanks for the support and hopefully a variation of the Ice Phoenix makes it into the game somewhere along the line.

[2200361]

So kind of like the lava hound but ice phoenix? Sounds cool overall!

[HiFliya]

So kind of like the lava hound but ice phoenix? Sounds cool overall!

lol kinda not. Hounds are specific targeting AD, Ice Phoenixes go for any defense in the area first. Thanks for the support though