Sneak peeks!!!:d

[RickyEMJr]

You can't be serious. In fact I don't think that a single person not employed by sc can be in favor of this lunacy. After everyone spends all their elixir on walls, where do you intend to get elixir from? This means that there will be between 50-100k in Storages plus what's in pumps. So you'll have to 3 star somebody to get around 150k elixir. Using barch and 1 spell??? I don't think so. Using gowipe??? Not if you want a profit. I can't believe all these positive comments on this page. You DO realize that now when you upgrade to TH10 you'll have to gem every single elixir based upgrade right? It says you're TH9 in your info.Every time you start saving you're going to get demolished by ppl happy to see over 150k available. And you're NOT going to 3 star with tier 1 troops, so it'll take days and days to save up for max pekka and max wizards and so on. You'll most likely give up and gem. Which is what sc is counting on. This is the most blatant cash grab I've seen in my life. And I view all these positive comments as insanity, or you're all corporate shills. Please tell me where you're coming from on this, and how not being able to keep surpluses of elixir in game (which is how you were able to win enough for max giants right?) is a good thing.

You do realize you moronic "you just ruined the game/this is the end of "_____" are like always always wrong right? Its typically only when you "fortune teller" trolls are strongly in agreement with a companies decisions that games and other ideas end up going out of business. Lol this is not the big picture this an imagined course of events that is not going to occur. Even if it did people would simply adapt yet still play the game like you state. Now here's a helpful hint since you cant seem to realize it. People will grab elixir the same way they grabbed gold by people not being able to spend it because their builders are busy!!!!! The way you talk you'd think no one ever got gold in this game either because everyone spends it on walls and cant hang on to it which is clearly proven wrong by the fact that people have always farmed gold. I swear like people forget how to use their brains when they hit the power button on their computer.

[KL597]

If this is allowed to happen ALL THE SURPLUS ELIXIR WILL VANISH OVERNIGHT. Then what? How do we win elixir to max out troops with? How do we even win enough elixir to sustain the ability to attack, since you'll have to get every storage basically 3 starring every attack in order to win about 150k elixir. You can't 3 star with tier 1 troops, so you'll have maybe 20k profit per attack using giant/healer and no spells. And if it goes badly, and you miss even 1 storage or pump, you'll lose elixir on that raid. Even if it goes flawlessly it'll take 4,000 attacks to win enough elixir for max pekka. C'mon let's be real here... Who's really got the patience for that? Plus the closer you get, the harder you'll be hit since you're the only poor dumb bástárd who has elixir, and half the community will be gunning for you. It'll be next to impossible not to gem, mark my words, you'll all give up and gem. Or you'll quit playing, and that's not right either since this game is "Free to Play". This update is sc's way of saying "$21,000,000 a week isn't good enough. I've got a huge coke habit, gimme more." I propose that if this greed fest is allowed to happen, that we do a 90 day boycott of sc to remind them that we are the ones they answer to. I've bought an insane amount of gems. Enough to pay for 25 ppl's game play. But I did it of my own free will, and this is going to make people that really love the game have no choice but to gem or stop progressing. That disgusts me sc... Shame on you!

You started off with a half reasoned argument, got overwhelmed with rage, and now are proposing a boycott...

[Terrifik]

Hey Chief! Get ready for the next update!!!


#1 Sneak Peek
Soon you can upgrade a row of wall pieces in one go! Walls level 6+ can also be upgraded with Elixir instead of Gold - your choice!!

#1a Forum exclusive Sneak Peek
Replays and live replays now show the attacker's available troops so you can see exactly what does and doesn't get deployed, and when.

Firstly, using elixir to upgrade walls sounds good news but it has its own consequences, players will now get an option to use both Elixir and Gold to upgrade walls. So what Next???, in order to avoid being raided, players would consume both Elixir & Gold to upgrade their walls (that means fewer bases with good loots, since most of em will be upgrading their walls):eek:

(Thinking in terms of player): What remains now will be only DE/ Gold/ Elixir whatever resource you would need to upgrade as a priority will be only filled up. For eg: If i need 2 upgrade my Minions to level 4 which will cost me 30k DE(approx.), i won't need to focus on collecting elixir and gold as well. So in order to avoid being raided i will keep the count of both Gold and Elixir low (by upgrading walls side by side) and DE which is my priority will be filled up. Similarly, if i would need to raid a village the other person if he uses the similar strategy like me, What loot will i gain from him?? Only 1 resource which can be either Gold, De, Elixir. So, i don't think this update will benefit us...

Personally, I use the above strategy to keep my builders busy, am open to others viewpoint also on this topic/ strategy as well.

Sigh! *_*

[borEdTerran]

Wow 161 pages and growing...

My two cents on the upcoming "elixir problem".

While I am also a bit worried about the availability of elixir after the upgrade I have full confidence that this issue/problem was carefully thought through by SC and we will see economy balancing additions in upcoming sneak peeks. Come on people, this is only sneak peek #1 and #1a, lets wait for the full list before judging the impact to the CoC economy. Either way a few people will be annoyed and maybe even quit due to this, but either way I think we will all have to adapt in order to continue enjoying this game.

Clash on!

[Czar]

i am a th10 with defense maxed.. & all this time & even now gold has never been a problem to collect, cause its hardly used for anything except nexting, neither has de been a problem...but the prob was elix (which becomes worst now), even though almost all my troops are maxed I need elix for raiding / donations / war, etc & in recent times I have had to hunt for bases which would even break even my army cost... trop push / high level farming / wars all go for a toss without elix... which now due to this update will make it un playable...

do what you want SC... go ahead with even this ... but just make the normal output of pumps equal to what we get on boosting at present... atleast let us play peacefully... rest you can keep toying around whatever you likes to satisfy the insatiable urge of selling max gems at cost of your players... cause no, we aint gonna be boosting anything just cause you decide to squeeze out further elix out of the system...

[Metalsubzero]

My first thought when I read the sneak peeks was "Why is Supercell screwing the long time players, the ones that had spent long hours farming walls with maxed elixir storages almost 24/7."

I'm almost a maxed TH8 grinding skulls walls, currently at 54/225. I know that's nothing of an achievement. However, when I compare it to my friends in my clan whom had all started around the same time as me, most of them only have pink or purple walls and I have about 80-100m more GG compared to them over the 5 months or so since we started, and that's the only way to set us apart.

I'm not sure what everyone's real intention or motivation for playing the game is. Some play it simply for leisure, some play it to make new friends, some play it to keep in touch with friends. But I think most of us that started playing this game had dreams that you would get yourself to a max TH10 some day with those badass walls.

At the end of the day, people are always comparing bases, comparing GG, HH, War Hero stats, Friend In Need etc., because these are the stats that set people apart. There is no ending line in this game like an RPG game, even if you max TH10 with Lvl 40 heroes and full Zap walls, you still have so many other achievements to look at, or for some getting to Champs League or Top 200 positions.

The game to me is all about comparing bases, comparing troops, comparing stats. "Who's got better walls? Who's got maxed defences? Who's got maxed troops?" There's no incentive being a skilled attacker, because only your positive stats are being recorded. Does your stat show how many botched attacks you have? Does it show how many defences you lost compared to your losses? Does it show stats like how many War Hero stars did you achieve from a maximum possible amount of stars offered?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but people compare. Human nature is to compare, even in real life. And when they get screwed by such updates, there's usually outrage, but most people move on, accept it and carry on with playing the game. Some people asks for refunds, some stop playing the game. At the end of the day, no matter what updates is being rolled out, it will definitely bring mixed reactions, because no 2 person give the same effort, same time, or have the exact same intentions of playing this game.

Having read thru some of the other posts, one very prominent post I read was that why should you stop progress in this game simply because it irks the old-time players. If it is for the good of the general economy, why should Supercell care if they anger people who had spent days, months and years farming gold for walls?

However, is this really good for the economy of the game? Some major changes I can see in this game are:

1. Elixir's gonna be getting scarce. This is not good for players higher up in TH Levels. Now that people can dump elixir into walls, we won't see the abundance of elixir in most bases.
2. Barchers will have an easier time since they use lesser elixir? Think again, with this update, there might be mass changes to bases. Anti-Barch bases might be more prevalent if anyone and everyone is gonna use Barch or BAM. Many base designs will be forced to change and adapt as a lot of base designs don't offer much protection for elixir storages
3. There's not much incentive to use army compositions that require mass amounts of elixir like Balloonion /Dragloon/Mass Dragons.
4. People will be forced to make better plans for usage of resources. Most farmers who max/or have intentions to max their walls don't usually have to worry about elixir upgrades since there's always plenty of elixir. But now, they have to plan usage of elixir for walls to coincide with lab upgrades etc.
5. I do think it will be much difficult to get enough elixir for Lvl 6 archer upgrade now that elixir is no longer the "unwanted" resource.

We really will not know how this update affect the gameplay or the COC economy. Will there be any more updates to further balance the game? Your guess is as good as mine.

[Liangse]

Speculating is fun
lets wait for other sneak peeks before jumps to conclucion
Every update, things will get worse before its gets better

regards

th10 GG 1,1B . 43 lava , 207 lego

[Lola00]

I mean I've been playing this game for over two years now, started in late August of 2012 right... Two years because this game is pretty awesome and enjoyable. Not saying SC does a terrible job but I've worked rather hard to build my base up and do all lego walls and now about 1/5th done casually doing lava walls...now the elixir use for walls is great from now on...but why wait over two years to change how you could upgrade walls? I mean they are expensive for a reason...to make it so some players if they want to can go ahead and be better than a normal player...

Most of the comments I just see are people happy to be able to finish their level seven walls...nothing wrong with that..then turn off when they see someone disagree or dislike this update...

All im trying to say is that this updates great if your new or dont play a ton....and if you do play a bunch even easier...but my question is more along the lines of Why? Why make walls cheaper now? Let the majority of players who gave your game a chance, to allow it to stay up and make it a success get thrown to the curb...why?
I understand walls suck, but I wanted to do them as a challenge and to have a better base then the average player...now things may not change and those who cant find gold wont waste their time finding elixir...but I just dont get why now..or why even bother changing something where it effects the gemmers and the long standing players?

Its ts great it will be easier..but is that a good thing? I really dont mind raiding people with worse walls etc..nothing to stand out if everyone has the same walls/defenses...your just all the same then...
I understand walls a difficult and a challenge..but why shouldn't they be? Also whats wrong with having items in a game hard to achieve? No one wants to play a game where the next day your as good as you can get, at least I dont. This updates great for the new players who arent very far into the ball game...but personally im one of a small few who have been playing since 2012.. No disrespect but why are you hurting what ive accomplished..its just a game yes but why ruin what ive done.

This may sound terrible but I would rather of saw this early in the game...not a few years after many are nearly maxed out/maxed and can just throw the work they put into the side...I mean really whats next? People that cant farm de will now be asking to use gold and elixir to upgrade a hero instead of de because..."its to hard to get" or "its not fair for them to have better heroes then me"
Basically all im trying to say is that why does there have to be parody...there should be weak bases, average bases and strong bases. Not everyone should be the same.

Thanks if you took the time to read this.

Well said. 😔

I'm interested to hear SC's thought process behind the change though. Instead of increasing loot production, reducing boost costs for collectors to encourage more people boosting etc. they've actually gone ahead and made walls (the biggest gold sink in the game) cost elixir also. It seems pretty drastic and doesn't actually add anything to the economy. There will be less elixir available and better walls on bases. We'll see what else will be revealed I guess, this is the first sneak peek after all. Perhaps it will make more sense later...

Agreed.

I'm hoping for some clarity behind the why's of this change.

[Don7011]

You do realize you moronic "you just ruined the game/this is the end of "_____" are like always always wrong right? Its typically only when you "fortune teller" trolls are strongly in agreement with a companies decisions that games and other ideas end up going out of business. Lol this is not the big picture this an imagined course of events that is not going to occur. Even if it did people would simply adapt yet still play the game like you state. Now here's a helpful hint since you cant seem to realize it. People will grab elixir the same way they grabbed gold by people not being able to spend it because their builders are busy!!!!! The way you talk you'd think no one ever got gold in this game either because everyone spends it on walls and cant hang on to it which is clearly proven wrong by the fact that people have always farmed gold. I swear like people forget how to use their brains when they hit the power button on their computer.

Listen dummy you're the filthy stinking troll here. You NEVER PURCHASED TROOPS WITH GOLD YOU MORON! So it's not even in the ballpark of farming for gold you half wit. And with 1 builder left free as most ppl do when farming walls (call me crazy) you won't be able to win jack squat from them, gold or elixir. By the way you missed my entire point, which was that an elixir surplus is good for the community, in so far as they can reasonably win substantial amounts of elixir for upgrading troops. That's the point feces brick. Vast amounts of elixir will be used on walls and not be available to be won. But thanks for poking at the bear with a stick you're an expert and I value your opinion over my own.

[Sukiawesome]

Now I can dump my elixir into walls yay!!!!!!