I dont want to hear about lvl 9 TH loot penalty...

[dahimi]

TH 9 has been getting and getting but what have you guys lost? Tell me...

What have you lost? You have gained DE troops. You've gained walls. You've gained an extra cannon. You've gained an extra tesla.

Yes TH9 gets more, and if you're so envious, upgrade your TH and join us up here. Then you'll realize what you give up.

You lose making 2m an hour. That is huge.

[RomeoX]

Of course different people start at different times. So what? Are you saying that people who started earlier and have played longer should not be rewarded for doing so? Furthermore why complain that TH9 gets more stuff? Of course they do. Otherwise people who have been around the longest will run out of things to upgrade. How does TH9 getting more things effect lower level TH people? TH9 can't really benefit from attacking them because of the penalty, and lower th level people still have tons of ♥♥♥♥ to upgrade. They always have the option of upgrading their TH too.

Does it honestly make sense to you that with all of these new troops and toys, that TH9s should envy TH7 for their ability to acquire loot? As you increase in TH level the price of everything jumps up. Does it make sense that the ability to acquire resources should decrease?

The problem is upgrading your TH punishes you 3 times.

1. The search cost. It nearly doubles when going from TH7->TH9.
2. The penalty.
3. The reverse bonus.

There is logic to having a penalty, yes, so that someone who is TH9 cannot relentlessly loot someone who is say TH7. However, at TH9 the penalty gets very prohibitive. It forces you to search through a lot more targets to find a good one. That's where the search cost comes in and smacks you. It is not uncommon to have to spend 50k or more finding a good target. A big part of that is all of the extras TH9 get. It is not really practical for TH9s to attack other TH9s. If these toys were given to TH8, it would literally become impossible to gain loot at TH9.

I don't really understand the point of the loot bonus either. The penalty keeps lower ths from being preyed on. What does the bonus do? Why do lower ths need an incentive to attack higher ones when they have so much more opportunity within their own th range than at TH9 does? If they want to do this, they should remove the loot penalty on a revenge.

Lower level th should not be able to attack higher ones without fear of retribution.

So...here's what I think they need to do.

1. Lower the TH9 search cost. It should top out at TH7.
2. Add TH9 only level 12 collectors that pump out 5k an hour.
3. Modify the leagues. The bonuses are a joke right now. Even 100k/100k at the top end are not enough to make a profit when you factor in the armies you need to build to win at those levels.
4. Remove the loot bonus or remove the loot penalty on revenge.

I'm not asking for any more penalty for people with TH 9 all I'm asking for is a bit of bonus for players brave enough to take on the big tough TH 9; because TH 9 has been receiving all these great additions/updates, wouldn't it make sense to give a small bonus to players who can muster up a successful attack/raid on a TH 9? Makes sense right? Lol tell me what TH level(s) the players you usually attack/farm?

[d3o]

I'm not asking for any more penalty for people with TH 9 all I'm asking for is a bit of bonus for players brave enough to take on the big tough TH 9; because TH 9 has been receiving all these great additions/updates, wouldn't it make sense to give a small bonus to players who can muster up a successful attack/raid on a TH 9?

In other words, you want TH8 be even more incentivised to steal all worthwhile scores from TH9's and make all TH9's quit the game. Cool. Cool.

[mgd6912]

You don't need to. You can raid TH7 and other TH8. The only reason for you to even consider raiding TH9 is for trophies, and are you honestly going to argue that a TH8 has equal right for trophy acquisition over a TH9?

Also you know darn well you haven't upgraded because of the penalty. Saying you couldn't upgrade TH8 stuff because you'd have new TH9 stuff to upgrade is absolutely ridiculous. It's not like you lose access to the TH8 stuff when you upgrade. You just get a wider pool of upgrades to choose from. If the TH9 upgrades are so much better, one would think you would have no problem delaying the TH8 stuff for a bit.

What is the point to upgrading really fast to TH9 when I would have level 2 walls protecting all of my low level defenses?? I would get crushed by any TH9 or TH8 that knew what they were doing. I wanted to make sure I am able to compete with TH9 when I get there. Someday I will be at TH9. As soon as my walls are all level 7 and my teslas are level 6. Maybe by then there will be a TH10 I can rush to...

[dahimi]

I'm not asking for any more penalty for people with TH 9 all I'm asking for is a bit of bonus for players brave enough to take on the big tough TH 9; because TH 9 has been receiving all these great additions/updates, wouldn't it make sense to give a small bonus to players who can muster up a successful attack/raid on a TH 9?

You do know you already get one right?

No it doesn't make sense to me. The bonus invalidates the time/effort you took getting there.

There are tons of lucrative targets within your own range to attack. Your building costs are lower. Your search costs are lower. Your penalties are weaker. Your troops are cheaper. Your attacks net just as much resources.

You can attack more often per hour at greater profit.

If you want a bonus for picking a fight with the big guys, they should be able to smack you back down on a revenge. Fair is fair. There is a penalty in place to keep the big guys from attacking you. You choose to pick a fight with me, I should be able to flatten you and get my resources back.

[dahimi]

What is the point to upgrading really fast to TH9 when I would have level 2 walls protecting all of my low level defenses?? I would get crushed by any TH9 or TH8 that knew what they were doing. I wanted to make sure I am able to compete with TH9 when I get there. Someday I will be at TH9. As soon as my walls are all level 7 and my teslas are level 6. Maybe by then there will be a TH10 I can rush to...

Your argument is that TH9 gets so much great stuff that they shouldn't have a problem with the loot penalty. If that stuff is so great and the loot penalty is such a non factor because of it, why aren't you rushing to TH9 to start building some of that great stuff?

Clearly that stuff would only make you stronger and less likely to be crushed right?

Why won't you get equally crushed now by other TH8s and TH9s? How does a wider pool of upgrades being available to you make you more likely to be crushed? Why not upgrade to TH9 and continue the same TH8 upgrades with maybe a little of the TH9 stuff like an xbow thrown into the mix?

Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

[blurx]

Have fun farming all that great TH9 stuff when you finally get there though.

[Greggo430]

This thread is absurd. I have a level 9 townhall and this update is making me want to quit the game because it is impossible to save enough resources to make any progress. It isn't if close. Like others have said, if you think th9 is so great, upgrade and you'll find out how terrible it is.

[RomeoX]

You do know you already get one right?

No it doesn't make sense to me. The bonus invalidates the time/effort you took getting there.

There are tons of lucrative targets within your own range to attack. Your building costs are lower. Your search costs are lower. Your penalties are weaker. Your troops are cheaper. Your attacks net just as much resources.

You can attack more often per hour at greater profit.

If you want a bonus for picking a fight with the big guys, they should be able to smack you back down on a revenge. Fair is fair. There is a penalty in place to keep the big guys from attacking you. You choose to pick a fight with me, I should be able to flatten you and get my resources back.

"The bonus invalidates the time/effort you took getting there."
Now we're on the same page; since it takes a lot of time and effort to get to TH 9 from TH 8, shouldn't a TH 8 have a small incentive by attacking a TH 9 with end game defenses? As you and I mentioned before what other town halls gain from attacking a TH 9 is EASILY gained if not more by a revenge. I reiterate, I'm not asking for more panalties for players with TH 9, I'm simply asking for a loot bonus given to those who have the balls to attack a decent TH 9.

[d3o]

"The bonus invalidates the time/effort you took getting there."
Now we're on the same page; since it takes a lot of time and effort to get to TH 9 from TH 8, shouldn't a TH 8 have a small incentive by attacking a TH 9 with end game defenses? As you and I mentioned before what other town halls gain from attacking a TH 9 is EASILY gained if not more by a revenge.

Read what I wrote above.

You'll be eliminating the only income TH9 has. Do you really want to reach TH9 someday, and then quit because there's just no point in playing?


Also, no - revenges still have loot penalties. TH9 revenging lower THs rarely makes a profit.