League update: FEEDBACK here

[Locomojito]

those 3200+ dont care about loot...

My ideas:

• Minimum 200
• trophy reward for champion instead of loot
• better loot bonuses (half comes from the defender, half from.. well.. air!)
• level icon to appear again under shield, a few posts back has a good example
• new de storage/some way of getting a shield when de storage is attacked by lightning (lightnings are destroying me now, and no shield from it, so it keeps happening)
• reduced clan castle 5 cost (4/5million?)
• ability for leader to send messages to selected members (or elders?)
• ability to send messages more than every 12 hours (not really sure why you did this?)

Bronze 3 (200 - 399) Reward : 500 of both
Bronze 2 (400 -599) Reward : 750 of both
Bronze 1 (600-799) Reward : 1k of both

Silver 3 (800-999) Reward : 5k of both
Silver 2 (1000-1199) Reward : 10k of both
Silver 1 (1200-1399) Reward : 20k of both

Gold 3 (1400-1599) Reward : 30k of both, 100 de
Gold 2 (1600-1799) Reward : 40k of both, 150 de
Gold 1 (1800-1999) Reward : 50k of both, 200 de

Crystal 3 (2000-2199) Reward : 60k of both, 250 de
Crystal 2 (2200-2399) Reward : 70k of both, 300 de
Crystal 1 (2400-2599) Reward : 80k of both, 350 de

Master 3 (2600-2799) Reward : 100k of both, 400 de
Master 2 (2800-2999) Reward : 110k of both, 600 de
Master 1 (3000-3400) Reward : 120k of both, 800 de

Champion (3400+) Reward : 2 stars = an extra trophy

quote this if you agree so we can get it spreading, and if you want me to change anything just say! I think these rewards are better!

totally agree!

[lol4657]

Pros and cons of the update
Pros:
Discourages farming
ROTATING WALLS, FINALLY!

Cons:
Level no longer displayed beside a players name
Low loots in leagues

[sandiego]

They did improve the game in several ways aside from the league system. In my opinion all the following tweaks were needed and improve the game. None of them require player gemming or otherwise lead to more $ in SC pockets.

• Bug fix for the wb AI
• Bug fix for the wiz tower/mortar
• Air bomb radius reduction
• Walls rotate
• Faster spell training

They also took money out of their pockets by speeding up build times for pumps and mines as well as reducing upgrade times for DE troops.

It's a good update. The league system just doesn't really work right now. But they'll iterate on it until it does.

Sorry but I don't consider the fixes as updates even tho they have been included with the update. They are just problems that needed fixing. The big things they introduced are the leagues, golem, CC5, and tesla7. League is hugely disappointing and certainly no alternative to farming. Other stuff is all high level stuff. Faster spell builds just mean more DE lightning raids! Wall rotation is nice but not important.

Steve, what is the reason to view others in our leagues if we can't select these people to attack?

[BroMo]

Pros and cons of the update
Pros:
Discourages farming
ROTATING WALLS, FINALLY!

Cons:
Level no longer displayed beside a players name
Low loots in leagues

I'm farming more than ever! Lol

[chiefvey]

The conundrum as always - to increase your trophy count, you need to upgrade your defenses/army. However to upgrade your defenses/army, you need to decrease your trophy count (in order to raid resources for easy wins with cheap troops).

Loot bonuses can solve that problem! They are a great idea but way too low. Imagine this:
1400 cups gets 50k each
1700 cups gets 100k each
2000 cups gets 200k each
2300 cups gets 300k each
2600 cups gets 400k each

And so on. In addition, you only get the bonus for destroying the town hall. Now THAT would put an end to farming altogether and make trophies really meaningful. Imagine a 12 dragon attack with 4 spells actually being profitable!!!

[hjennings69]

The conundrum as always - to increase your trophy count, you need to upgrade your defenses/army. However to upgrade your defenses/army, you need to decrease your trophy count (in order to raid resources for easy wins with cheap troops).

Loot bonuses can solve that problem! They are a great idea but way too low. Imagine this:
1400 cups gets 50k each
1700 cups gets 100k each
2000 cups gets 200k each
2300 cups gets 300k each
2600 cups gets 400k each

And so on. In addition, you only get the bonus for destroying the town hall. Now THAT would put an end to farming altogether and make trophies really meaningful. Imagine a 12 dragon attack with 4 spells actually being profitable!!!

faaaar to much rewards for each, would ruin game completely, read my post

[zachUVA]

Thanks for the feedback on Leagues guys!

I can totally see where you're coming from on the loot bonuses. A lot of thought went into the balance and while one way to look at it is "something is better than nothing" if the majority of the community is not happy with it we will reevaluate and think of ways to improve/make as many people as possible happy with the bonuses.

I can't make any promises that the loot bonuses will change, but this specific bit of feedback will definitely be relayed to the team!

Being perfectly honest, the update was GREAT. Bug fixes, new goodies (even if mostly for TH 9), and chat improvements. Honestly, if the trophy leagues and storage adjustments weren't there, I would have given the update a perfect score.

Let's be perfectly honest here, though, loot dropped. Total loot dropped. While this isn't true for players at 2600+ (as an example. I, of course, can't give a completely accurate estimation of where this occurs.), for the vast majority of players, the 20% reduction in loot from storages, when they have less than about 800k in them (and small reductions between 800k and 1 million), far far outweighs the bonus loot.

I really feel that this update leaves many people worse off than before, with regard to loot. Mid level frmers seem to be the ones taking the biggest hit here. They simply aren't capable of going way over 2000 trophies, where the loot bonuses are somewhat significant (not to mention that those counts are difficult to sustain without gemming for most players). On the other side of the equation, they now get less loot from raiding players with less than capped storages.

That being said, I actually didn't panic right away when I saw that the storage percentage was dropped. I hadn't looked at the league bonuses yet and simply assumed that this was to keep loots from getting too good. The common assumption, aided by the meetup video, was that loot bonuses were going to be fairly substantial, in which case reducing loot from the storages would have been an acceptable step to take. It could have been a simple trade-off: more loot for winning and less from farming.

Instead, we got almost nonexistent bonuses, at least for 95% of players, and a reduction in loot. Paired with ever growing costs to max bases (7 million for lvl 5 Castle anyone?), this poses a problem. At the same time, it is understandable that Supercell didn't want to create a situation in which players could make massive profits from just hitting an isolated town hall, but I think there is certainly a better way to do this than what was ultimately done. I have seen the idea floating around, and I tend to agree, that scaled loot bonuses based on number of stars would be a better way to do this. You get 1 star, you don't win much of a bonus. You 3 star someone, you get a sizeable reward. It seems to me that that type of a system (keeping the trophy requirements, of course) would allow more loot to flow into the game, while also promoting players to gain trophies and destroy as much of the opponent's base as possible.

Just my opinion, but the bonuses as they stand are negligable. I, and I'm sure many others, have intentions of leaving my town hall outside, and hanging around my normal farming range. The cost of moving up in the leagues doesn't adequately compensate for the tougher opponents, and until it does, farming will remain unaffected.

PS: Please bring levels back. It was replaced with the only thing in the game that is even more meaningless: trophies. Yes, trophies still have zero value.

[Greggo430]

Steve, for whatever it's worth, it's not just the bonuses. There's a conflict as it relates to town halls. The incentives are all wrong for farmers. I want to sell mine in exchange for the shield, and farmers are happy to take the exchange for the bonus loot. Somehow these incentives need to be realigned so it's not such a no-brainer for me to sacrifice it and for farmers to claim it.

As soon as I log out I pick up a shield right now. That's good for me, but it isn't good for the game.

The bonus comes from thin air... magical indeed. Just wanted to clarify that point.

The bonus doesn't have to come from thin air, especially since it is harder to get loot from storages now. The bonus could very easily come from your opponent

[hjennings69]

The bonus doesn't have to come from thin air, especially since it is harder to get loot from storages now. The bonus could very easily come from your opponent

it should do! if bonuses increase as they should they should come from the defender, thus an incentive to better protect th as nobody wants to lose res from a simple th destroy!

[BlackhawkBill]

They did improve the game in several ways aside from the league system. In my opinion all the following tweaks were needed and improve the game. None of them require player gemming or otherwise lead to more $ in SC pockets.

• Bug fix for the wb AI
• Bug fix for the wiz tower/mortar
• Air bomb radius reduction
• Walls rotate
• Faster spell training

They also took money out of their pockets by speeding up build times for pumps and mines as well as reducing upgrade times for DE troops.

It's a good update. The league system just doesn't really work right now. But they'll iterate on it until it does.

Really?.....lol.....its been documented that Supercell has claimed to, at one point, raked in over $325,000 a DAY on just CoC. Please dont expect anyone here to highfive them for small sacrifices such is decreasing build times in stuff lol...