Clan Wars is turning into dragon wars

[AxionXD]

I use HoLoGon™ for my TH8 and GoWiWi on my TH9.

HoLoGon™ is basically 6 Dragons, 12 Balloons and 4 Hog Riders (+5 Hogs in CC). Good for Mid level or below TH8s for almost flawless 3 star and 2 star relatively easy on maxed TH8. Premie TH9s can fall victim too, especially if they have their Xbows missing or set to ground.

I drop a loon to draw out the castle. Once lured, I drop a dragon at the closest point to some air defenses. Once the CC arrive, I drop all my dragons and a leading rage spell. I then drop the Loons in a V shape pattern. Once the loons are in there tearing it up, I drop CC hogs to go after AD and Wizard Towers. Then I drop the 4 hogs on the next closet AD and Wizard Towers. I rage the balloons as soon as they are not being raged. Loons should be constantly raged.

It's been working great even with lvl 4 loons.

[hogyh03]

Drags won't be nerfed because while they are a devastating army they are extremely expensive to make and time consuming. At Th8 with lvl 3 drags and 200 camp space that army is 360k elixir. Then you add the spells (lightening, heal, rage) and your talking about for one raid using easily 400-450k in elixir. Now I know some will say they always have plenty of elixir and whatnot. Any army that cost that much to make is bound to be OP and should be OP.

Th7 and lower can't defend it, but I've seen plenty of Th8s with a cc of decent troops and centralized ADs defend a drag attack to a one star raid.

[rickyking300]

Drags won't be nerfed because while they are a devastating army they are extremely expensive to make and time consuming. At Th8 with lvl 3 drags and 200 camp space that army is 360k elixir. Then you add the spells (lightening, heal, rage) and your talking about for one raid using easily 400-450k in elixir. Now I know some will say they always have plenty of elixir and whatnot. Any army that cost that much to make is bound to be OP and should be OP.

Th7 and lower can't defend it, but I've seen plenty of Th8s with a cc of decent troops and centralized ADs defend a drag attack to a one star raid.

Okay, and yet you're only talking statistics. Elixir cost does NOT determine whether a troop setup is "OP" or not. I'm pretty sure if you tried using 9 pekkas on a decently upgraded th10, they wouldn't stand a chance. Giant wiz healer is also not very costly and yet extremely effective. Using a lot of hogs isn't very expensive especially when at only level 1-3 and yet you could demolish many bases with good timing. Dragons are costly, yes, but if your drags are lvl 3, someone is more likely than not to use those against a strong enemy in war and thus gain even more elixir. It may not profit them, but their net loss of elixir at the end of a war can range from 50,000-200,000. That is not much to lose especially for th 7 and 8 who mostly prefer gold over elixir for defensive upgrades. As of my own experience, I have yet to see a th8 only get 1 starred by 10-11 lvl 2+ drags with rage spells/ lightning spells ( and I'm talking lvl 75+ th8 with lvl 6 air defense with a good tri shape to cover all areas dragons slow down on). If it happens, I'll tell you.

[ClashySquill]

So if SC makes a new troop like that it would be available at th9 what th 9 can 3 star another th 9 with drags

[Deadtoast15]

DRX10 looks cooler then mass dragon raid just saying

[hogyh03]

Okay, and yet you're only talking statistics. Elixir cost does NOT determine whether a troop setup is "OP" or not. I'm pretty sure if you tried using 9 pekkas on a decently upgraded th10, they wouldn't stand a chance. Giant wiz healer is also not very costly and yet extremely effective. Using a lot of hogs isn't very expensive especially when at only level 1-3 and yet you could demolish many bases with good timing. Dragons are costly, yes, but if your drags are lvl 3, someone is more likely than not to use those against a strong enemy in war and thus gain even more elixir. It may not profit them, but their net loss of elixir at the end of a war can range from 50,000-200,000. That is not much to lose especially for th 7 and 8 who mostly prefer gold over elixir for defensive upgrades. As of my own experience, I have yet to see a th8 only get 1 starred by 10-11 lvl 2+ drags with rage spells/ lightning spells ( and I'm talking lvl 75+ th8 with lvl 6 air defense with a good tri shape to cover all areas dragons slow down on). If it happens, I'll tell you.

When your troops cost that much it's going to be OP. I got raided by 8 lvl 4 golems, 2 hero's and 4 spells in a war and got 2 starred (that's my point about cost). Are you going to tell me that golems should also get a nerf? Level 3 drags aren't going to do ♥♥♥♥ to any Th9 or above with a halfway decent design. If your Th8's can't defend a drag attack it's time for some better base designs (spread em out make the drags take time since they are a very slow moving troop). Hogs are more expensive than you think (when comparing how much elixir/dark elixir you get generate a day).

It's annoying seeing nerf this nerf that threads all the time. Just because people haven't developed a good enough base to defend doeesn't mean a troop should get nerfed. Learn from your design mistakes, try new designs, etc. Game will always be favored towards raiding. The best thing about all out drag attacks...you can do it right back at em.

[rickyking300]

When your troops cost that much it's going to be OP. I got raided by 8 lvl 4 golems, 2 hero's and 4 spells in a war and got 2 starred (that's my point about cost). Are you going to tell me that golems should also get a nerf? Level 3 drags aren't going to do ♥♥♥♥ to any Th9 or above with a halfway decent design. If your Th8's can't defend a drag attack it's time for some better base designs (spread em out make the drags take time since they are a very slow moving troop). Hogs are more expensive than you think (when comparing how much elixir/dark elixir you get generate a day).

It's annoying seeing nerf this nerf that threads all the time. Just because people haven't developed a good enough base to defend doeesn't mean a troop should get nerfed. Learn from your design mistakes, try new designs, etc. Game will always be favored towards raiding. The best thing about all out drag attacks...you can do it right back at em.

"When your troops cost that much, it's going to be op..."

"Lvl 3 drags aren't going to do anything with any th9 with a halfway decent base."

Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself.

Clearly you also didn't bother to use any effort in reading my post. I already said I have tried many different anti dragon bases both from my own observations on YouTube, forums for anti dragon bases, and from the game itself, they are all somewhat effective, but are poor in any other type of attack. I don't ever recall talking about golems, ever. I'll use your own words against you. "If your th could not defend a golem attack it's time for better base designs..."

People HAVE developed bases that somewhat defend their bases from all Dragon attacks, shortening their attacker to even a 1 star victory if the attacker is a TRUE idiot. Otherwise, there is no anti dragon base that also defends well against most other strategies as well, typically the common ones like giant wiz healer. As for doing it right back, people actually want to have FUN and find STRATEGY when attacking, not holding the Dragon button in the barracks and then placing your finger in one spot to spawn them all at once. That is something my own baby cousins could do. A baby cannot really think of strategies and time well placed heal spells or rage spells or freeze spells. If you find a baby who can, tell me, that would be a mind blowing thing.

In the end, this is all personal opinion, and we will all be stubborn, no matter what you think, like I am now. Either drags should get a bit nerfed down for th7 and th8 or they can give archer towers or air defense favorite targets.

[ShaneHed13]

Dragons are high level troops and should be able to take out TH 7's without too much trouble. I'm a veteran level 8 and I have never been three starred by a dragon attack since getting my AD upgraded past 5.

I do dragon attacks a lot but if a TH 7 or 8 has their things upgraded and placed effectively, they can withstand getting three starred by a dragon attack.

Alternatively if someone upgrades to TH 9 prematurely I can kill them with drags.

Logic dictates, if you are getting murdered by dragon attacks, upgrade your air defenses and place them more towards the center of your map.

Lets not complain about higher level people killing us though because when you are high level you are going to want to lay waste to others too!

[LordSquiggles]

(mocking everyone) guys, dragons HAVE to be nerfed. Im a th10 and im being 3 starred by LVL1 dragons. And my lvl1 air defences and air bombs need to be buffed 1000x than now. Also, sc needs nerf other things too, like, whats the point of walls if wallbreakers lvl 5 one shot my lvl1 walls. Like, ♥♥♥ man? (lol jk im not a rusher)

[kfamighetti]

The last 7 clan wars, I've been attacked by mass dragons (previously they only 1 starred, finally 3 starred today). Seems like every replay I watch is just mass dragons with rage and heal. There is nothing in your clan castle that can even slow down a mass Dragon attack, except a Dragon, and when your Dragon is surrounded by 4 others on a rage spell, it's gone in a second. I just think it's gotten out of hand a little bit. Anyone TH7 and up seems to be using nothing but mass drag attacks. Is it just me, or is anyone else noticing this trend.

Maybe nerf the drags by having teslas or archer towers or something do 1.5x damage to drags.

Or even better...have defensive troops in the game. They aren't great at attacking, but great for CC defense. You can ask for defensive troops in your CC if you'll be away for awhile, and offensive troops if you're attacking. Some troops can be specialized for a specific offensive troop. Like archers with exploding arrows for dragons etc

1) Higher level clans do not use mass drag attacks. GOWiPe, GoWiWi
2) There is a good troop for defending against dragons...its called another dragon.
3) I rarely see a TH 8 with all red splash damage mines to L3 or a TH 9 with seeking mines to L2

It seems players don't like being mass dragged, but they like spending gold on mines even less...pick your battles I guess. My point is there's already checks and balances against dragon attacks. Mines and wells placed high Lev ADs are those checks. Get more builders, raid more gold and UPGRADE them.