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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulkified View Post
    They just need to bring in ranked wars. Give us our clans MMR and allow us to join ranked war leagues within a certain reach. Personally I loved warring against Team YOLO it was the best war ever, but I cant dedicate 16hrs every 2 days to hard wars. I dont want to stop warring either but these clans that have 0 idea what they are doing is just boring and you cant even train or experiment on them because their bases are so bad.

    I want pro-wars just never every 2 days due to massive burn out.

    This may be an issue for you, but it is not as much of an issue for players with max bases. Clans like Ice Ice Baby!! are much more likely to have fair match ups.

    Or you could just add another 10 players, get to 50... and have a more challenging experience....

    Reddit Troopers chooses to be very competitive, not just through skill but through "clan control". Add some high level th10 players and you will be more challenged.


    A "mmr" system will never happen. Ever.

    First off, it would be incredibly difficult because it would need to take into account individual players rather than a clan, since a clan can change members at any time. Failure to take that into account would result in widespread abuse. Secondly, it would have to take into account not just "skill" and wins, but also base levels, which is pretty much impossible to do simultaneously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulkified View Post
    Anyone else just hit a bad patch of wars??

    im about ready to blow my brains out these wars have been so easy, 20% loot bought back the farming clans for a few more weeks.
    This may be frustrating, but again there are easy ways for reddit troopers to remedy this. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those clans see your war wins and automatically give up btw.

    There are tens of thousands... probably hundreds of thousands of clans out there, and the vast majority of them are relatively casual. Trying to implement an absurdly complex mmr system for the top .0001% of clans that are having it too easy but aren't going all out as th10s will never happen and expecting it to happen is ridiculous.

    Maybe (and i do mean maybe) a MMR system could be implemented, but it would only work for maxed or near maxed th10 bases with a minimum of all inferno walls. You can't have match making ratings effectively without a bracket system, and there is no way to effectively bracket th8s, th9s and most th10s.

    if you want to be challenged, then challenge yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by tjj89 View Post
    I would definitely expect it from many high win clans. Not really any particular clan on this leaderboard, but asian clans that already ghost and ♥♥♥♥ would exploit this.

    When SC created clan wars, they didn't want to factor in skill in anyway it seems. Doubt they will change that policy.
    skill is impossible to quantify with an algorithm without an equal playing field. You can say Barry Bonds is more "skillful" at baseball than a high schooler I suppose, and therefor a TH10 is more "skillful" than a th8, but since we all know that comparison is ridiculous, you should accept the fact that it would be nearly impossible to calculate skill.

    Like i said early, Maybe war leagues that separate TH levels could work, with th10s could have a war league separate from th9s, but beyond that it wouldn't work. They would also have to be a specific clan number for war (45 or 50 probably). And if they did do that, you can be ASSURED that the majority of the best war clans would break up and fracture into th level instead of juking around with their town hall distribution.
    Last edited by Pyrogen; November 1st, 2014 at 10:04 PM.

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    Question: why isn't this a leaderboard in the game? Wars are the only thing that take skill in this game. Notice the top trophy leaderboards are clans that rarely war, just farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrogen View Post
    skill is impossible to quantify with an algorithm without an equal playing field.
    No it isn't. Winning wars is the only definition of skill in this game, and is pretty simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrogen View Post
    Like i said early, Maybe war leagues that separate TH levels could work, with th10s could have a war league separate from th9s, but beyond that it wouldn't work. They would also have to be a specific clan number for war (45 or 50 probably). And if they did do that, you can be ASSURED that the majority of the best war clans would break up and fracture into th level instead of juking around with their town hall distribution.
    Wouldn't need to worry about that. Just have Bronze, Silver, Gold, etc. just like trophies. Obviously a clan without all TH10's would not expect to be in the top leagues. Then have separate rankings for player count.

    Bronze 20, 25, 30 ..
    Silver 20, 25, 30...
    Gold 20, 25, 30...
    etc.

    This way you could have your clan of "skilled" TH6's and below, but nobody would care because you are in the Bronze league of rankings.

    Not that complicated. Then have seasons, just like trophies. Easy. What other problems do you need me to solve?
    Last edited by Gax; November 1st, 2014 at 10:29 PM.

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    Hi foxy🍻

    Quote Originally Posted by F0XY View Post
    OK changed it. I guess I forgot to update the file on my computer which is the one I work from.

    Are you on Prep Day or Battle Day, so I know whether to check you tomorrow or not?
    Our war isfinished in 5h 33 min
    looks like another win, but u never know✌️

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    Quote Originally Posted by F0XY View Post
    Super congrats to TEAM Y.O.L.O on being the first to reach 100 wins
    Congratulation TEAM Y.O.L.O
    Start: Sep 2013
    TH10 maxed by farming: August 2014
    Current: Lvl 164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gax View Post
    No it isn't. Winning wars is the only definition of skill in this game, and is pretty simple.



    Wouldn't need to worry about that. Just have Bronze, Silver, Gold, etc. just like trophies. Obviously a clan without all TH10's would not expect to be in the top leagues. Then have separate rankings for player count.

    Bronze 20, 25, 30 ..
    Silver 20, 25, 30...
    Gold 20, 25, 30...
    etc.

    This way you could have your clan of "skilled" TH6's and below, but nobody would care because you are in the Bronze league of rankings.

    Not that complicated. Then have seasons, just like trophies. Easy. What other problems do you need me to solve?
    What other problems? All of them because you didn't solve any of them and your suggestions are shallow and almost meaningless.

    Your answer represents a typical gamer who knows what he wants but has no idea how to achieve it.

    No, skill isn't only determined by winning. It is determined by many factors ranging from activity, defense levels, troop levels, attack experience etc and that is just on an individual level.

    Your suggestion of "gold silver bronze" is equally ridiculous. It is completely abstract because you cant actually think of real parameters, and would necessitate the need for, by your example, no less than 20 separate MMR rankings. Not only is that absurdly complex to the point of meaninglessness, but it also wouldn't even fairly distribute the clans.

    And on top of that your suggestion, which you seem to think is should hold wins as the prime factor would still, result in enormous mismatches and extremely one sided wars that defeats the entire purpose of a mmr system.


    This will never ever happen, and the fact that you think you "solved" anything is proof of that. Most of the gamers and non program/developers will continue to think the game could use some advanced ranking system and thats fine, but the best that will happen is slight alterations to then matching making and maybe some sort of seasonal leaderboard.

    But go ahead, write an algorithm and prove me wrong.
    Last edited by Pyrogen; November 2nd, 2014 at 02:15 AM.

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    If you guys want more a more advanced system, you should maintain realistic goals

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    Manado Almighty 92 wars won

    Manado Almighty 92 wars won

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    93 wars won

    Indo Surabaya 93 wars won

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    Ronald Mcdonald i like ur clan descrip open and let me visit!

    Lemme visit ur clan, your descriptions every war are hilarious
    Last edited by GodKingz; November 2nd, 2014 at 09:46 PM.

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