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Thread: Idea for DISCOURAGING clan hoppers, while keeping the integrity of the game intact

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    Mods, please close this thread. It is going nowhere.
    Mods, please close this post. It is going nowhere.

    Seriously, if you don't like the ideas... simply say you don't like them and why you don't like them. Trying to get people censored for expressing and defending their ideas, just because you don't like them, is uncalled for.
    Last edited by AnonyJoe; August 18th, 2014 at 12:43 PM.

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    Not trying to censor anything. The discussion is now spiraling in the same loop that has been discussed many times before and degenerating into an argument with nothing new being contributed to the original topic. The thread has served it's purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonyJoe View Post
    1) "Anyone can join" - Keep donated troops upon leaving the clan
    2) "Invite only" - Don't keep donated troops upon leaving the clan

    Understand now?



    What happens is that they would 1) click on the button that says "leave" and 2) go find another "anyone can join" clan and join it.

    No one is forcing anyone to stay in any clan. If a clan you're in makes changes to clan requirements, and you don't like it, you can leave. Besides, hoppers don't usually care what a clan's requirements are anyway. They're there to snatch troops. They weren't joining the clan to stay in the clan in the first place. All this solution does is make it pointless for a hopper to join an invite only clan.



    The suggestions laid out in this thread takes the decision not to donate to noobs out of the equation. If a hopper is looking for a clan to get troop donations then they could join an "anyone can join" clan. If they join an "Invite Only" clan they don't get to keep any donated troops. No need for "Invite Only" clans to worry about whether or not to donate to hoppers because hoppers most likely wouldn't join the clan knowing they wouldn't be able to keep donated troops.

    Mods, close this guy's post, it seriously serves no real purpose in this thread.
    In other words, it is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ protection. Only ♥♥♥♥♥♥s give out troops to noob strangers, else there wouldn't be hoppers. I have already solved this problem for you, SC doesn't need to bother adding this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed clan member protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    Not trying to censor anything. The discussion is now spiraling in the same loop that has been discussed many times before and degenerating into an argument with nothing new being contributed to the original topic. The thread has served it's purpose.
    Whether the thread has "spiraled into ....whatever" is a matter of opinion. The thread started off about an idea of adding a revenge attack to now it includes a separate idea regarding the management of donated troops. So the thread has produced good results as far as coming up with ideas.

    Where the thread has gotten off target is with pointless posts like yours calling for the thread to be deleted or shut down. But the very fact that there are so many "stop the hoppers" threads is reason enough to believe that there is a real nuisance with those people (troop snatchers) and that having the option of making your clan "invite only" is not enough to stop the problem.

    As far as whether this thread has "served it's purpose" or not... that's also a matter of opinion. But regardless of whether it has or not, what is the point of closing it if not to censor it/shove it down the board? If people don't like the idea(s) and want to see the thread die then they can simply stop responding to the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hushdatnoise View Post
    I have already solved this problem for you, SC doesn't need to bother adding this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed clan member protection.
    That, and your solution only "solves" this if you consider it a problem. There are good reasons to hop, and the rest of us can benefit from the hoppers. If something is put in place to prevent free movement between clans the rest of us will loose out on exploiting hoppers, visiting with our friends in other clans, switching between feeder/war/farm clans, etc.

    The bottom line is that hoppers are not a problem, and therefor by definition do not need to be "fixed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    That, and your solution only "solves" this if you consider it a problem. There are good reasons to hop, and the rest of us can benefit from the hoppers. If something is put in place to prevent free movement between clans the rest of us will loose out on exploiting hoppers, visiting with our friends in other clans, switching between feeder/war/farm clans, etc.
    Either you haven't actually read the ideas, you don't understand them, or you're just being disingenuous. There has been absolutely NOTHING in here that suggests that free movement between clans should be prevented. All that has been suggested are ways of curbing the efforts of players who join clans simply to "steal" troops... from clans who don't want that.

    Invite only does not solve this problem. Good clan management only carries so far and only with clans that have good clan management. For the rest it's a nuisance and can even turn people off to playing the game longer term.

    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    The bottom line is that hoppers are not a problem, and therefor by definition do not need to be "fixed".
    If they weren't a problem this thread wouldn't exist.
    Last edited by AnonyJoe; August 18th, 2014 at 08:32 PM.

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    A more logical idea would be a donation history page or just don't keep cc troops when leaving clan. no need to be that extreme with anti hopper methods

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbarianNotKing View Post
    A more logical idea would be a donation history page or just don't keep cc troops when leaving clan. no need to be that extreme with anti hopper methods
    This idea has been posted and shot down! I am go in to post a new thread with the new idea! And I will edit this post with the new thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceageg View Post
    That, and your solution only "solves" this if you consider it a problem. There are good reasons to hop, and the rest of us can benefit from the hoppers. If something is put in place to prevent free movement between clans the rest of us will loose out on exploiting hoppers, visiting with our friends in other clans, switching between feeder/war/farm clans, etc.

    The bottom line is that hoppers are not a problem, and therefor by definition do not need to be "fixed".
    I hate bumping this thread but I simply have to agree with this. I just don't and never will see a hopper as an issue. I could care less if someone joins in and....omgsh!! "STEALS!!!" A whole CC full of troops. I mean wow....that just really broke my bank. Because seriously....thats what everyone is complaining about, a CC worth of troops. Really?

    Comparatively, the potential downsides to the OP suggestions are far greater. There are simply way to many reasons for wanting to leave a clan after joining that are not traditional "hopping" all stated in previous posts. No upside....all downside with this I am sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street3 View Post
    It's a little.off.topic but I thought it was funny! Your comment reminds me of north Carolina people complained about people asking for money so they made a pan handler law!!! What this does is whoever ask for money without this permit is locked up! Or just picked up and dropped somewhere else depending on the cop! But the point is that the citizens got tired of so many people making a living off of asking for money, instead of joining society and making a living that they made and passed the Law!

    Not that I agree with the law you understand but that's what most of this thread reminds me of!
    North Carolina is broken politically. But that's offtopic.

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