War matching I think needs work

[powerbottom]

If you really want to trick the system you'd only upgrade critical troops for cw. Keep walls nubbishly low. Defenses one step below your TH. To me that sounds like a person that's rushed and pays attention to latest trends. We took clan wars and wanted a diversified TH level with well upgraded Townhalls. That was the wrong strategy, we'll now fight a TH above every war. Maxing everything before you upgrade is now the nub thing to do.

[bossi]

If you really want to trick the system you'd only upgrade critical troops for cw. Keep walls nubbishly low. Defenses one step below your TH. To me that sounds like a person that's rushed and pays attention to latest trends. We took clan wars and wanted a diversified TH level with well upgraded Townhalls. That was the wrong strategy, we'll now fight a TH above every war. Maxing everything before you upgrade is now the nub thing to do.

well said.maxing everything leaves your clan at a serious disadvantage.if you want to win war you have to upgrade near max and only upgrade relevant troops

[Mobad]

In a different but related topic has anyone else experienced a clan matchmaking of 20v20 wait time exceeding of up to 5 days and still no results found? Jw if my clan is the only one having that issue.

We have never went over 10 minutes in a search. Cancel yours and restart it.

[TullSadum]

They've said what it was based on when wars came out months ago for Christ sake.

true! .....but: They've also said that they've 'fixed' matchmaking issues, meaning, they've tampered with the back ground settings, and they did not say what they did.

[TullSadum]

If you really want to trick the system you'd only upgrade critical troops for cw. Keep walls nubbishly low. Defenses one step below your TH. To me that sounds like a person that's rushed and pays attention to latest trends. We took clan wars and wanted a diversified TH level with well upgraded Townhalls. That was the wrong strategy, we'll now fight a TH above every war. Maxing everything before you upgrade is now the nub thing to do.

...why would anyone want to do that?! War is fun, espescially if all take part. Don't lose the fun over becoming too ambitious. Just make sure everyone uses both their attacks. A lot of war wins stemming from a string of push overs, what's the worth in that? And anyway, what to do or not in order to influence matchmaking is mainly guesswork and maynot even be true.
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[FeedTheBeagle]

I think maybe you're not seeing the point -- or at least you have a different definition of "real mismatch" than many of the rest of us. If all the things you cite are more or less equal in a match (troop, spell, hero, defense, wall, army camp, cc level, etc) and we are STILL ending up matched against clans that we have no realistic chance of beating, then maybe SC needs to rethink the whole formula -- such as how things like walls are counted, for instance.

If my clan has eight Level 7-8 THs against another clan that has only two level 8s and no level 7s, or if my clan has eight level 10s against the other clan's 14 level 10s, then this is a mismatch. I don't care how equal the walls are. A player can beat a village that has higher walls or higher spell levels. But it's almost impossible to beat one that has two inferno towers and three x-bows when the player has no freeze spells and lower-level troops and troop capacity. Sure, sometimes there will be a fluke win, but for the most part, we are matched with clans that simply not possible to beat.

As for your own experience, yes, it's great that you can beat maxed-out TH10s with your TH8, but you are clearly an extra-special player who is an exception who is far beyond most of the rest of us most ordinary players. If you are routinely beating max 10s with Level 8, then you are like an Olympic gold medalist of a Clan player, and it's not really fair to measure the rest of us against you.

Bottom line -- if people are being matched with clans that they have no chance of beating, then it doesn't matter if the match is somehow "equal" according to the numbers currently being used. Obviously those numbers need to be rethought.

The #1 thing a leader, a coach, an etc.. gives their basketball players, CoC members, etc .. is the inspiration & belief that they can overcome any deficit no matter how great it may be OR how they defeated they feel.

I've read 63 pages in silence waiting to say the right thing. I don't see inspiration. I don't see confidence. I don't see the pride of being who we are, so what, and we're gonna get you .. So you better run.

The leader sets the tone for the clan. When a leader talks down-trotten, defeated, with no zeal left in his game why should anyone else have the same? I heard one Leader mention that his clan turns it into a practice war .. Talk about great leadership. When you're given Lemons, you either make Lemonade or you throw the Lemons at someone. That leader, using that upside-down scenario made Lemonade & educated some of his lower/newer players, genius.

SuperCell told us on Day 1 .. Wars were not part of the game. They were a separate game, independent from the main game .. A mini-game. Yet its turned into how so many of you actually get your resources.

The same Leaders complaining here, can't teach their medium level/ lower level players how to play/raid 3-6x per hour and make upwards of 1 - 2mill an hour as a TH6/7 every day making them a feared player .. Instead they choose to war & use war as an income .. Then complain when they don't win .. Because its their only income. War is not income, its a "Snickers" bar, really satisfying.

I'm aware of the poop-storm I'm causing, however its nothing but the truth. Our clan & most of the clans I know stopped wars. They're really boring & financially upside-down.

But don't come here & complain because you lose. You would NOT BE HERE IF YOU WERE WINNING! Perhaps come up with a better approach .. Don't complain about SC's formula, complain to the mirror. Start with management. Don't be a negative leader. Don't let your Executive Board be negative. Set an example. Trim the fat. Get down to a manageable size. From there grow. Be POSITIVE, take out the Negative

Pardon taking so much time, yet I feel the truth hadn't been addressed. Please Feed the Beagle. Kibbles & bits, Kibbles & bits, every dog loves Kibbles & bits !!

[warheadplaya]

a brief video of the match making system failure at work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npog...ature=youtu.be

[rdtx2012]

FeedTheBeagle.

I think most people just want a fair match up. Supercell gives you a ♥♥ matchup and you have to wait 2 days to try again. and it's rinse and repeat.

If their matchmaking really worked.. they could easily have thrown an error message saying that no matches at your level found, please try again later instead of feeding you some random clan that is overpowering.

Sure, it goes both ways. and you are right people tend to be up an arms when things don't go well. But Supercell always claimed that their matchmaking has been tested thoroughly and that albeit there are a few outliers.. you will most definitely get a decent match. I don't mind close matches.. i mind the outliers.. we had 3 matches like that in a row.

in statistics this is abnormal... they need to fix the algorithm or provide better error handling or outlier handling.

[D3X]

The #1 thing a leader, a coach, an etc.. gives their basketball players, CoC members, etc .. is the inspiration & belief that they can overcome any deficit no matter how great it may be OR how they defeated they feel.

I've read 63 pages in silence waiting to say the right thing. I don't see inspiration. I don't see confidence. I don't see the pride of being who we are, so what, and we're gonna get you .. So you better run.

The leader sets the tone for the clan. When a leader talks down-trotten, defeated, with no zeal left in his game why should anyone else have the same? I heard one Leader mention that his clan turns it into a practice war .. Talk about great leadership. When you're given Lemons, you either make Lemonade or you throw the Lemons at someone. That leader, using that upside-down scenario made Lemonade & educated some of his lower/newer players, genius.

You make it sound so noble. It's not like we don't want to compete and have good sportsmanship. If you look at some of our previous matches we're pitted against a dream team. Granted our clan is quite good, we're nowhere near the top heap of the pile. If this was an analogy; if you're competing in the Olympics and was set to race against a top seed (30+), but you rank somewhere in the 100-200s. You're an underdog and sure it may seem like a valid match, but the odds are, you're no where near the same league. The difference is that great.

[nitecrawler1922]

We have never went over 10 minutes in a search. Cancel yours and restart it.

Appreciate the input but we have restarted the search over three times a day... it never says "no opponent found" it just keeps searching and we manually restart it roughly every 3-4 hrs. Anybody else ever have this issue?