War matching I think needs work

[Rudel]

What's up with Supercell "moving" all balance threads in this forum? You don't like this topic? Who cares about the Leaderboard of some big spender clans, we want fair matches for everyone.

So far we had a good run in CWs and won 70-80%. Some of those were really close and those were the best fun ever. I still remember the one we won 120:118.

But since the update, we never get matches to a similar opponent. At the moment the score says 50:115, isn't that great? I got three starred by a th10, being myself a th8 for a few weeks. This is just ♥♥. I really loved the CW feature but PLEASE put more effort on the balance. We will gladly wait an hour to get matched up with an even opponent.

[IronBrigade]

You're supposed to? Says who? Most times the recommended target is the weakest player without stars at your TH level. It is not your counterpart on the other team, nor is it good to use it in any way shape or form. We've never used it for anything and have never cared what it says.

Actually, that's not correct sharkyfiin. Read Martika's clan wars faq. I'm a th8 and I've never had the recommended target be the weakest enemy th8.

[KingKaizer]

SUPERCELL I don't care what kind of algorithm you use to match up Wars though the last few wars have been fairer it is to late for my and my clan is falling I have spent so much time on this game I love it but WAR its great in some ways but in others it sucks and I know there must always be a loser but my clan has been torn apart TORN APART YOU HEAR ME and still is being torn apart I have made many friends in this clan and I love m clan dearly but it has been TORN APART BEACAUSE OF WAR. War is great and there are many advocates for it but take it away its ruining my favourite aspect of the game THE SOCAIL one COC is a great game by itself but for a lot of people that's not enough the great way you have structured clans and global chat is ggggrrrreeeeaaaatttt but then again this post is not about that. Please not just for me as it is to late for me and my clan has come crashing down around me but for the people who love clash and their clans please fix war it needs to be done or clans are not the only thing that will get torn apart but the whole game will. I will never give up my clan but it is going to be a long time before I can rebuild my clan any suggestions of help for my clan or anyone interested in helping me rebuild my clan post on my recruitment thread. Please supercell look at this and think about it I'm sure you have had many complaints already please do this. If this has happened to you post what happened here and help this message grow louder so that supercell notice it sign your image status in clan and name and roughly how many member's in clan right here

Raptor lvl 65
Leader of war champs
33 members at the moment

ps. if enough response I will make a clan for Clan leaders and co leaders who have had to experience something like this

Regards

Raptor lvl 65 Leader of war champs

Raptor ... War destroying clans is not new, its been happening since the first few days of war, and its been happening for many reasons. War changed the dynamic of the game massively and alot of clans werent ready for it. The fact of the matter is it is hard to keep everyone happy in the clan now as some people will need a break from war to farm or upgrade (especially heros), while others want to war. With war everyone needs to be on the same level , and take it as seriously as the rest or finfighting will start , and a losing streak is death for a clan. My clan , The Departed came close , actually this problem was why I joined the forum. And I'm glad I did as I have come up with a solution.
Basically it is this. Our clan has officially given up war for awhile maybe forever. But I have started a group on this site called "WE ARE LEGION" and it is a place just for people who like war to meet. I have started a 2nd account and he has started a clan under the same name. Once there are enough people in the group we will make a time and date and my second acc will open the clan...everyone brings there accounts over ASAP and as soon as they are in and 2nd account is kicked war will be declared. As soon as war finishs everyone leaves again going back to thier clan. If they want too they can go back straight after their second raid. Either way they wont be away from thier clan for much longer than 48 hours. I believe this gives rveryone the best of both worlds. You get to keep your clan, farmers get to farm and people whowant to war get to war. The war group isnt limited by clan numbers either, there could be 300 members passing on info, discussing strat and tactics, in fact you can be on this site with the group planning war while farming and socialising with your clan on your tablet or phone. Your account only leaves the clan for the war!!!!! Another bonus is that the war should be 100% participation as everyone has chosen to be there, everyone hates someone who doesnt use there raids. And because its a group, if you dont want to war when others do then u dont have too and your not letting anyone down. The possibillities are endless, if the group gets bigger we can try all sorts of things, maybe one round of war we try something like a war with only THs of the sme level. Anyway thats the idea and I'm sure its going to suit alot of people I'm justbtrying to get the idea out tthere. IT's already saved my clan as the few of us who want too are giving it a go tomorrow, we will be leaving for war and returning after to a heros reception FROM OUR CLAN!

kingkaizer, lvl106, Co leader The Departed

[IronBrigade]

One thing i haven't mentioned is the circular issue of matchmaking. I know several people and clans that are slowing down their warring or stopping altogether because of the loose matchmaking. However, to have good matchmaking you need a large pool of clans but since the matchmaking is poor and fewer are participating, the matchmaking pool is more limited and thus, clan wars dies a slow death. History is rife with video games that killed themselves. I hope this is not the case but it doesn't seem the current implementation is on a solid path.

[rdtx2012]

We are wrapping up our lopsided match against U.S.A

95-41 at the present time with 3 hrs left

Outcome was expected.. I mean.. what are you going to do when the Top 30 players on that clan have max heroes and top ten 10 have max walls. and what are you going to do when they are all TH10 and we have 5 TH9s? Lose as expected.

We managed to 2 star all their top 10 players, which is a win for us (and using one hero since most of our heroes are upgrading)

As for USA... seeing their war results against InTheDark and Ice Ice Baby!!!.. I understand why they didn't score well... (i'll just leave it at that)

[KamboKid]

Yesterday we were matched up with a Top 150 clan. Now, as proud as I am of my clan, I know where are not close to being in this category. We have 18 Th10's, they have 30. Even though I know this is not considered in the matchup, they have 10,000 more clan points than we do. They have more Th10's with 2 maxed inferno towers as we have Th10's.

We are really confused as to how this could happen as we have very little comparable with the other clan. Their heroes for example way outpoint ours. Our guy with the best heroes has a combined level of 42, and just about everyone else has heroes less than 40 combined. They have 2 guys with maxed heroes and 8 guys with a combined level of 59 or higher.

This is not a complaint, but these mismatches do happen. I would rather us wait an hour or so (or longer) than being placed in a war we have no chance in winning.

If you want to see the enemy clan in question, they are the Japanese character that is at the moment of writing at #153 in the world (we are 5780). They only dropped under 150 because one of the Champion's League players, the #1 on their war chart, left the clan.

[Raptor23]

Getting a identical clan as opponent is impossible so the question really is what difference is still fair? As both clans will be of the same size every member has a opponent to raid. If you look at your opposing number is it unraidable for example th7 going against a maxed th10 or is it still a raidable target? You might not be able to three star your opposing base, but can you win at all?

Yes this is a good point there will never be an exact matching based on town hall lvls and the lvl of defence troops but it should still be close not a clan in all master and near max town hall 9 to our 7,8,9,10 which none are except a few but this is what I'm complaining about also there should be a little bit of a gauge of war experience as well as Lvl of defences and stuff there should be a gauge of how experienced a clan is at war and how many wins 4/50 losses at the moment

[Raptor23]

Don't Forget to sign the petition guys

[powerbottom]

Yesterday we were matched up with a Top 150 clan. Now, as proud as I am of my clan, I know where are not close to being in this category. We have 18 Th10's, they have 30. Even though I know this is not considered in the matchup, they have 10,000 more clan points than we do. They have more Th10's with 2 maxed inferno towers as we have Th10's.

We are really confused as to how this could happen as we have very little comparable with the other clan. Their heroes for example way outpoint ours. Our guy with the best heroes has a combined level of 42, and just about everyone else has heroes less than 40 combined. They have 2 guys with maxed heroes and 8 guys with a combined level of 59 or higher.

This is not a complaint, but these mismatches do happen. I would rather us wait an hour or so (or longer) than being placed in a war we have no chance in winning.

If you want to see the enemy clan in question, they are the Japanese character that is at the moment of writing at #153 in the world (we are 5780). They only dropped under 150 because one of the Champion's League players, the #1 on their war chart, left the clan.

Trophy farming clans and clan wars is polar oppposites. Global ranking based around trophies is meaningless unless you get a warm and fuzzy about it.

[Humbob]

We are pretty mismatched this war. They have a good TH10 (2 infernos, lvl 6 troops, 3 x-bows, etc.) who I'm assuming is going to fill the clan castles. Our best TH this war is an 8, albeit maxed.

So that guy can 3 star any of us easily enough. We also sport 3 TH6s to their 2, etc.

But... do you guys think that the real mismatching seems to occur at higher level play with larger clans, or with larger clans in general? In general, at 10-20, and usually 15, player wars I think the matchups have been fairly good. We've had ALOT of very close wars.