War matching I think needs work

[Elph]

Did i failed to explain clearly, or did you took it the wrong way...... i have 111/150 for war hero, that alone should tell you how many wars i have been in.... not to mention my job is janitor in my clan, which means most of the time i just mop up the extra 1 or 2 stars at the end. I don't remember exactly how many times we won or we lost. I just recalled the most recent wars we been in, which is total of 7 wars, 3 wins then 1 lose, then 2 wins and now going on the 7th war that i can remember and it seems like we already won before it starts....
my clan has 19 won so far but not sure how many lose, but i do remember one tie though, and leader was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because couple people didn't attack and end up tie

Yes you did fail explain clearly since you didn't say anything about 111/150 war hero in your initial post......sigh

[AgentO]

That is fine for CWs which are a mix of TH8/9/10s but it simply doesnt address the problem where it is basically a Th10 only war where one side are, on average, lvl135-145 and the other side are lvl 105-120. Everybody has xbows and discos but the one side has everything else maxed, including most heros, while the other doesnt. As an illustration, in my current CW - im in the top third in my clan - my recommended target in this 35v35 war is #34!! While my 'war bonus target' (which i use as a more reliable guide, usually attacking at targets that give me 420-430k of gold etc) is #32. Clearly this suggests the whole clan is massively overmatched.

You are right it does not address that, just the matching by defense and offense strength should not allow too many total mismatches if you are all th 10s.

Our last war was against a clan with 15 th 10's that all had infernos, and as the top player in my clan my recommended was #12. I don't mind that since I have mostly maxed troops and spells and can 2 star most th 10 bases. However my clan only has 2 th 10 players, and it is a great struggle for my th 8's and 9's to try to take on those infernos and get 2 stars.

Just think that infernos should get a little stronger weight. Since in our case it was a war with on clan having 30 infernos and we had 4.

And before anyone complains, I am not saying that all other things should be ignored. I mostly like the matching system, just think this tweak would help make more even matches for us clans in the low 20,000 trophy ranges

[toogs]

We just put a 150 on the board against a clan that had no business being matched with us. It's nice to be the hammer rather than the anvil for once, but it's clear the matchmaking system is broken.

[Humbob]

lower level clan here, best ranked base via clan wars is a no longer active th9

3 th8s then 7s and 6s

we are matched up against 2 th10s and 3th9s and 3th8s

But here's the thing, I think we're going to win. They aren't spectacular 8's and 9s and they have clear weakness to air defense, so we're going to maul them with balloons.

I usually feel like the opposing clan is stronger than ours. I usually feel like its going to be tough. And we are 41 wins 9 losses 1 tie so we usually prevail. And its often very very close, we've won 10 or 20 wars by less than a handful of stars, but thats because we have a player or two thats willing to ensure the win even at cost to them.

I think considering the complexity of the system and how impatient players probably are after starting a war... that the system is absolutely remarkably well designed.

[invexity]

How is it a fair match up if my recommended target is #10 when I myself am #5 in my clan? (If you had this situation occur before it means that the algorithm is broken. Because idealistically you should be matched EVENLY* which means your target should be someone that is evenly matched with your rank on the team)

There were 11 people over lvl 80 (3 of which were over lvl 100) where we had only 3 (no lvl 100+).
(I know levels are not accounted for nor is trophies... so stop telling me about them I mean to just state that in terms of the levels of defenses theirs are clearly superior to ours overall)

**To clarify, this is a observation about the state/quality of the clan war matching algorithm not of what SUPERCELL SAID they accounted for. My point is that the way they accounted for it is BROKEN. NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR IT!


Below is supercell's response & mine for the record:

Hey Chief,

Clan wars matchmaking is not done by XP level or town hall, but rather a score based on the level of your defensive buildings, traps, and more.

Also keep in mind that if matchmaking were too strict, it would be very difficult to find any matches at all. We realize that this can result in some unfair matches, but it's better than the alternative of not finding any matches at all.

Hope you have better luck in your next war, Chief.

Clash On!

-Steve

I normally wait about 5 minutes for a match and many of us start match searching before bed time... Please enhance the algorithm to search for an hour like it stated. Or provide clans with the ability to choose max wait time (ex. search for 1 hour tops *warning poor matchup possible, 2 hours *higher chance of better matchups, 5 hours *even more likely)

[fernalfer]

I feel your pain. Same thing with us. Last 4 clan wars were so mismatched it wasn't even fun. Hope this gets fixed.

[Alain686]

How is it a fair match up if my recommended target is #10 when I myself am #5 in my clan?

There were 11 people over lvl 80 (3 of which were over lvl 100) where we had only 3 (no lvl 100+).

Level means absolutely nothing in match making. Level means absolutely nothing as a measure of a player's skill.

If you are relying on the "Recommended target" to determine who to attack then you are attacking the wrong target. The only time I have seen where the "Recommended target" is any where near what it should be is when the target is way too weak. If you are hitting the "Recommended target" then you are not pushing yourself to do better and therefore will not improve your attack skills.

[awornpear]

Level means absolutely nothing in match making. Level means absolutely nothing as a measure of a player's skill.

If you are relying on the "Recommended target" to determine who to attack then you are attacking the wrong target. The only time I have seen where the "Recommended target" is any where near what it should be is when the target is way too weak. If you are hitting the "Recommended target" then you are not pushing yourself to do better and therefore will not improve your attack skills.

No.... Your supposed to attack lower than the reccomended target. Tell me would you rather take a 1 star on the number 1 guy or attack a guy that you are confident you can 3 star even a baby will know that 3 is better than 1

[Alain686]

No.... Your supposed to attack lower than the reccomended target. Tell me would you rather take a 1 star on the number 1 guy or attack a guy that you are confident you can 3 star even a baby will know that 3 is better than 1

I am the clan leader of my clan. The rule in my clan is that you will use the first attack on your counterpart in rank, #1 vs #1 and so forth. The expectation is that you will get 3 star on your opponent. We go to war once a week since clan war started, we have only lost 1 war with a score of 124-111. The first few wars were painful as members were pushed to learn how to attack for 3 stars. The clan had a steep learning curve at the beginning, now we typically get over 90% of the available stars. If you don't push yourself then you will never improve your attack skills.

[SharkyFinn]

No.... Your supposed to attack lower than the reccomended target.

You're supposed to? Says who? Most times the recommended target is the weakest player without stars at your TH level. It is not your counterpart on the other team, nor is it good to use it in any way shape or form. We've never used it for anything and have never cared what it says.