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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    Pie your right. But people are new to the forum everyday. I dont think that epic Chris needs to be supercells spokesmen. Myself and almost everyone on this forum knows its all about the $$$ for supercell. It is still nice that we can post ideas that is not all about the $$$. Epic Chris can just post if he think everyone is wrong.
    When was the last time you saw a Supercell Spokesperson response to ANY general thread?

    Never, usually the only time a Moderator, who is not technically an employee of Supercell, may chime in but usually it's to lock a thread.

    So if it weren't for users like Epic Chris, and I do it many times myself, you wouldn't have responses. You'll have threads full of "Oh yea great idea!" "Fantastic!" "I want that so bad!" and that's it. There'd be no discussion. Criticism does build better ideas.

    However, this idea is very basic and to the level that has been ruled out. So no matter how good of idea it is, no matter how crucial of constructive criticism is given, it's ruled out for a reason. Some regulars are willing to explain it, but we've explained it in detail so many times many do become a bit jaded.


    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    I dont think myself or anyone else know what supercell will and will not do.
    Yes we do, the ideas in the Ruled Out thread are ones specifically ruled out by a member of Supercell's development team. We know for a fact that they will not implement anything in the Ruled Out section any time soon. They may revisit the idea in the future, but as of TODAY, they WILL NOT DO IT.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    My point is that it's not his "job" to tell everyone on the forum what supercell will and won't do.
    As I said, when's the last time you had a Supercell Employee go into a forum thread to say "We won't do this". If they have, it's been a while and very rare. So if people post Ruled Out ideas, if regular forum veterans don't mention it, who will?



    The faster we can determine that an idea is ruled out, the sooner we can move on and discuss new ideas that we can further developed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxionXD View Post
    When was the last time you saw a Supercell Spokesperson response to ANY general thread?

    Never, usually the only time a Moderator, who is not technically an employee of Supercell, may chime in but usually it's to lock a thread.

    So if it weren't for users like Epic Chris, and I do it many times myself, you wouldn't have responses. You'll have threads full of "Oh yea great idea!" "Fantastic!" "I want that so bad!" and that's it. There'd be no discussion. Criticism does build better ideas.

    However, this idea is very basic and to the level that has been ruled out. So no matter how good of idea it is, no matter how crucial of constructive criticism is given, it's ruled out for a reason. Some regulars are willing to explain it, but we've explained it in detail so many times many do become a bit jaded.




    Yes we do, the ideas in the Ruled Out thread are ones specifically ruled out by a member of Supercell's development team. We know for a fact that they will not implement anything in the Ruled Out section any time soon. They may revisit the idea in the future, but as of TODAY, they WILL NOT DO IT.


    As I said, when's the last time you had a Supercell Employee go into a forum thread to say "We won't do this". If they have, it's been a while and very rare. So if people post Ruled Out ideas, if regular forum veterans don't mention it, who will?



    The faster we can determine that an idea is ruled out, the sooner we can move on and discuss new ideas that we can further developed.
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    YoungGuns, you need to stop and think about what you are posting.

    EpicChris and people alike are doing the forums a favor and keeping it clean and clear of ruled out ideas, so that good ideas will not get lost amongst the clutter of ruled out, repeated ideas.

    He is not insulting these people, he is educating them so that they might read the sticky threads to learn what ideas are ruled out and maybe to use the search function before posting more ideas that add clutter to this forum.

    If new members stopped and actually read the "READ BEORE POSTING" thread and had the courtesy to do a search before posting their idea, we would have a lot more positive posts. But if you think about it, only so many ideas can truly be good ones, otherwise SC would have already thought of it and/or implemented it. So naturally, there will be more bad than good ideas.

    People don't need to be babied, when an idea is not good they should be told the truth in an appropriate manner, like EpicChris always does.
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    So basically...Supercell put up an "idea" forum that they don't respond to and the forum trolls (aka "veterans") have taken it upon themselves to decide what is a good idea and what isn't and then delude themselves into thinking they are actually helping Supercell by telling others their ideas are no good. But it's not to offend anyone, it's to help stir the brainstorming brew and keep the forums clear so when the Supercell Devs come to look, they will have a nice, neat organized forum of ideas that have been properly policed by the "veterans". Great job guys! Your sacrifice is inspiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakko View Post
    So basically...Supercell put up an "idea" forum that they don't respond to and the forum trolls (aka "veterans") have taken it upon themselves to decide what is a good idea and what isn't and then delude themselves into thinking they are actually helping Supercell by telling others their ideas are no good. But it's not to offend anyone, it's to help stir the brainstorming brew and keep the forums clear so when the Supercell Devs come to look, they will have a nice, neat organized forum of ideas that have been properly policed by the "veterans". Great job guys! Your sacrifice is inspiring.
    You need to learn what a troll is...

    He's only commenting that this is two things.
    1) Already possible, just bu the time when it's as many gems as you want, tada boosted builder
    2) It's ruled out, upgrading/boosting/doubling builders is on SuperCell's "We won't do this" list

    If new posters would actually read previous posts or the PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING stickied thread, maybe people wouldn't have to hate on their ideas.

    (It would be nice to have a few more mods though to close so of the rubbish that gets posted)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yakko View Post
    So basically...Supercell put up an "idea" forum that they don't respond to
    You're new, so I'll politely educate you.

    first of all, if you cared to read the "READ BEFORE POSTING" sticky thread, you would have known that Supercell has actually implemented tons of ideas suggested in this here exact forum. Let me take an exerpt from that thread and post it here so you don't have to do any extra clicking:

    Your suggestions do make a difference!
    The developers and moderators read every idea thread. These ideas are discussed and reported frequently within the staff and moderator circle. Some are interesting enough to be added to short-term to-do lists, some to long-term lists, some simply monitored to see if it fits a direction they want to go, and some are ruled out due to negatives overriding the positives or if they don't fit in the direction they want (or secretly can't say) the game is headed. YOUR direct input has led to numerous in-game changes such as:

    * Increase text space on leader messages
    * CW Enhancements: Separate war base layout, numbered villages, notice who started war, dismiss war CC troops
    * Clan Wars
    * Hero Auras (Passive addition to stats of surrounding troops)
    * Add more leadership roles - co-leaders
    * Number displays on clan castle to show space used vs having to click it, then hit info
    * Ability to remove obstacles while in edit mode
    * A multi-target building to simultaneously target multiple individual enemies on non-adjacent tiles
    * 24 hour ban on player to re-join clan after being kicked
    * Make surrender button smaller / move out of game play area - too many accidents
    * Ability to upgrade traps (as well as them staying where placed now and stats showing in-game)
    * Elder Kick cooldown time reduced to 20 minutes
    * Donation indicator in clan chat
    * Village construction mode - easier way to rearrange village, saved layouts
    * Update shared replays with different color button, comment field, loot, trophies, battle results, etc
    * Keep tracking loot / achievements after they are completed
    * Add info about available loot % possible with TH differences in-game
    * Cooldown for elder to boot players
    * Add viewable player stats/profile - similar to Hay Day's farm stats
    * Add a mute button to global (basically to hide chat of a player)
    * Ability to share replays within clan chat
    * Add the Attacks/Defenses Won stat (from Leagues) to leaderboard
    * The Freeze spell was taken directly from the sticky as the "Next spell" to be worked on
    * Move replay 1x 2x 4x button to right and off of playing field
    * Ability to request specific troop reinforcement types (Custom message with request)
    * The Inferno Tower was inspired by several requests for a "Flamethrower" tower
    * Reduce healer camp space, make more viable
    * Mark indicating center of playing grid (The plaque marking the center of the town)
    * Flip from one barracks to next (like one roadside stand to next in HD) so you can setup all quickly
    * Add Chinese localization
    * Attack battle log with replays
    * Add troops received to donation stats
    * Add leader messaging (Also the fix to unfilter messages 2 days after release was from feedback)
    * Don't auto-end battle once all normal troops perish if Clan Castle/Spells remain in inventory
    * When balloons are destroyed, they fall to the ground for 1 last little attack
    * Ability to rotate selected row of walls
    * Moving multiple wall pieces at once.
    * Splash damage with dragons and wizards
    * Show damage % in defense battle log
    * Show remaining lab upgrades during active research
    * Air Bombs
    * Army Camp full notification
    * Heroes
    * Troop donation statistics
    * White insert buffer lines showing while moving decorations
    * Defense replays
    * Army Camp troops survive if Army Camp destroyed while on defense
    * Message displaying when someone leaves/is kicked from clan
    * Trophy limits on clan applications
    * Gem usage confirmation
    * Small shields after maintenance and disconnects
    * Many of the combat balances are due to user input
    * Matchmaking queue
    * Army Camp storage managed as a whole instead of per camp
    * Barracks queue information
    * Clan Search
    * Global chat moderation
    * Trophies to be lost displaying in match screen
    * Broader range of trophies available to be won per match
    * Scroll to top of Top Clans, Top Players, League, and My Clan by tapping Tab (like clan/global chat)

    as you can see, that's a pretty long list of ideas suggested from fellow forum readers like us that got implemented into the game (yes, Supercell listened to our suggestions).

    Quote Originally Posted by yakko View Post
    the forum trolls (aka "veterans") have taken it upon themselves to decide what is a good idea and what isn't and then delude themselves into thinking they are actually helping Supercell by telling others their ideas are no good.
    ACTUALLY, we inform people when their idea is officially RULED OUT by Supercell. It's not even a matter of whether it is a good idea or bad idea, if it is RULED OUT, the point is moot, so we are simply telling these people "save your breath, SC already heard of this idea and has decided not to implement it into the game".

    It's not a matter of OUR opinions, it's a matter of FACT given by a Supercell representative. So get your facts straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by yakko View Post
    But it's not to offend anyone, it's to help stir the brainstorming brew and keep the forums clear so when the Supercell Devs come to look, they will have a nice, neat organized forum of ideas that have been properly policed by the "veterans". Great job guys! Your sacrifice is inspiring.
    Offending may happen as a side effect, when people respond back rudely or arrogantly to what we are simply stating as a fact. If you play nice, we play nice. Simple. And yes, we do go out of our way to try to tidy up this place. A job we wouldn't have to do if new members didn't make a mess in the first place and simply read the "READ BEFORE POSTING" sticky and the other stickies up there. Oh, and used the search function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yakko View Post
    So basically...Supercell put up an "idea" forum that they don't respond to and the forum trolls (aka "veterans") have taken it upon themselves to decide what is a good idea and what isn't and then delude themselves into thinking they are actually helping Supercell by telling others their ideas are no good. But it's not to offend anyone, it's to help stir the brainstorming brew and keep the forums clear so when the Supercell Devs come to look, they will have a nice, neat organized forum of ideas that have been properly policed by the "veterans". Great job guys! Your sacrifice is inspiring.
    Thank you yakko
    my posts has nothing to do with geming builders. It has to do with epic Chris tell everyone what is wrong and right on this forum. If someone post something that has been ruled out just don't respond to. I fill that just because u have 2,000 posts you not need to try to run the forum.

    And Axion criticism helps nothing. Talking and explaining the topic helps. If you think that epic Chris is helping people out on this forum you are crazy. He can talk to people without being an ***hole.


    hawdog dog please show me the post that epic Chris said geming builders was ruled out. Can you please read before you post. He did not say that at all. He just posted that geming builders was a bad idea. He tried to shut down the topic before it even started.
    Last edited by YoungGuns; July 14th, 2014 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuNuHeAd99 View Post
    He's giving criticism, it's to make there idea better, you can't always be right, and plus his idea is ruled out. HE'S SUPPOSED TO SAY IF IT'S RULED OUT.
    The idea was, if he said yes to my comment, then I will tell him that he can't do it. I didn't quite understand what he was getting at.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    Epic Chris is this what u do? Read a post and then tell the person that they are wrong. I have not seen u post anything positive about someone's post. Grow up it's not your job to tell everyone that they have bad ideas.


    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    Pie your right. But people are new to the forum everyday. I dont think that epic Chris needs to be supercells spokesmen. Myself and almost everyone on this forum knows its all about the $$$ for supercell. It is still nice that we can post ideas that is not all about the $$$. Epic Chris can just post if he think everyone is wrong.
    I have never claimed to be a spokesperson for supercell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piewarrior99 View Post
    Lol I joined the forums yesterday, I know what you mean. But still, I have nothing against EpicChris, he actually pretty cool, but what he says is not always fact. Forums are here to state you opinion, and he does just that.


    If you had a good idea, but I thought part of it needed improvement, I would say so. It may seem rude but it isn't, hes posting to make ideas better.



    Thank you pie, that is my goal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenn View Post
    Now... What were you saying?




    (Page 4 on the thread in my sig, if you want to see the actual post)


    EDIT: By the way, EpicChris is right. SC won't do this.

    Thank you brenn, I have a long trail of nice posts, and I'm a lot more fun and messy aroundy On the forum game section.

    Quote Originally Posted by hawdog View Post
    YoungGuns, you need to stop and think about what you are posting.


    EpicChris and people alike are doing the forums a favor and keeping it clean and clear of ruled out ideas, so that good ideas will not get lost amongst the clutter of ruled out, repeated ideas.


    He is not insulting these people, he is educating them so that they might read the sticky threads to learn what ideas are ruled out and maybe to use the search function before posting more ideas that add clutter to this forum.


    If new members stopped and actually read the "READ BEORE POSTING" thread and had the courtesy to do a search before posting their idea, we would have a lot more positive posts. But if you think about it, only so many ideas can truly be good ones, otherwise SC would have already thought of it and/or implemented it. So naturally, there will be more bad than good ideas.


    People don't need to be babied, when an idea is not good they should be told the truth in an appropriate manner, like EpicChris always does.
    Thank you Hawdog.


    If your not happy with me, then so be it. A little hate from you guys won't stop me from posting my feedback.

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    Thank you yakko
    my posts has nothing to do with geming builders. It has to do with epic Chris tell everyone what is wrong and right on this forum. If someone post something that has been ruled out just don't respond to. I fill that just because u have 2,000 posts you not need to try to run the forum.


    And Axion criticism helps nothing. Talking and explaining the topic helps. If you think that epic Chris is helping people out on this forum you are crazy. He can talk to people without being an ***hole.
    I don't know what you define as ***hole, but it's wrong. Also, this is toxic behaviour, should it continue, you will be reported for breaking forum rules
    Last edited by Kuris; July 14th, 2014 at 03:07 PM.


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    Ok your right epic Chris i will stop. You are doing a great job running this forum. I also think you are doing a great job helping everyone learn the rules of the forum. And when someone thinks your not doing a good job the best thing for the forum is to report them for not thinking what think. So I am sorry again. Keep up the great job. Supercell will grow to new heights with you running the forum. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGuns View Post
    Ok your right epic Chris i will stop. You are doing a great job running this forum. I also think you are doing a great job helping everyone learn the rules of the forum. And when someone thinks your not doing a good job the best thing for the forum is to report them for not thinking what think. So I am sorry again. Keep up the great job. Supercell will grow to new heights with you running the forum. Thank you
    I can't tell wether that was sarcastic or not. My sarcasm detectors imploded.

    Supercell will not reach new heights with me running the forums, as I am not running the forums. Also, rules werelaced to be enforced. Obviously I'm going to report people if they break them.
    If you want to argue, we should not do it here.


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