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[Anarchos]

The more I think about it the more it *kind* of makes sense.


SCs fix to cheap shielding was making a player logging off have a short time where their base would join the search queue but not the revenge list. I could be mistaken but I want to say it was around 30 seconds? This prevented cheap shielding because attacks happen well before the 30 second mark. If someone was offline when a shield ended would there be a 30 second run off before you could revenge? Or would you be revenge-able instantly? If you're revenge-able then it would in theory be exploitable. Maybe that's what's going on?

[BonbeeTyrael]

If Thats What You're Saying,Is Balam Lying About This? I Doubt He Is..

If that's his ingame name I can't find him on the top200 global or US. My forum-bread synicism tells me he is someone who just hit 3200-3500 wondering why his base doesn't win when he copied a design 1000 other people are using.

[BonbeeTyrael]

The more I think about it the more it *kind* of makes sense.


SCs fix to cheap shielding was making a player logging off have a short time where their base would join the search queue but not the revenge list. I could be mistaken but I want to say it was around 30 seconds? This prevented cheap shielding because attacks happen well before the 30 second mark. If someone was offline when a shield ended would there be a 30 second run off before you could revenge? Or would you be revenge-able instantly? If you're revenge-able then it would in theory be exploitable. Maybe that's what's going on?

That's not how it works at all.

Here's what happens. When you log off there is a 2 minute window in which your base is completely un-attackable. Just incase it was a connection error. Then it goes into both matchmaking and revenge at the exact same time BUT the game is faster than anyone can click revenge so it lands on a match. At that point it's locked into matchmaking because even if someone hits next there are more players searching than available raids so it's immediately passed to the next player waiting in clouds in .00001 seconds. So no revenges can get through.

[Anarchos]

That's not how it works at all.

Here's what happens. When you log off there is a 2 minute window in which your base is completely un-attackable. Just incase it was a connection error. Then it goes into both matchmaking and revenge at the exact same time BUT the game is faster than anyone can click revenge so it lands on a match. At that point it's locked into matchmaking because even if someone hits next there are more players searching than available raids so it's immediately passed to the next player waiting in clouds in .00001 seconds. So no revenges can get through.

I see, guess I misunderstood how it was explained when they fixed it. Thanks for the info!

[BonbeeTyrael]

I see, guess I misunderstood how it was explained when they fixed it. Thanks for the info!

If they have added a 30 second difference and I somehow didn't know I do apologize. But I can't see the reason for this since when cheap shielding was possible it was because they went on revenge after 0 seconds but still got the 2 minute reprive from matchmaking.

[BonbeeTyrael]

HOLD THE PHONE.

The unnamed player just right now went clanless and received a massive defense win with an easily beaten base. I'm starting to wonder now. Someone may want to actually check this.

3 defense wins is nothing special. But if this 1 win per day trend continues something is up. I could two star their base with my barb king tied behind my back.

[JackoTheGreat]

That's not how it works at all.

Here's what happens. When you log off there is a 2 minute window in which your base is completely un-attackable. Just incase it was a connection error. Then it goes into both matchmaking and revenge at the exact same time BUT the game is faster than anyone can click revenge so it lands on a match. At that point it's locked into matchmaking because even if someone hits next there are more players searching than available raids so it's immediately passed to the next player waiting in clouds in .00001 seconds. So no revenges can get through.

The above is partially correct. Once you log off & close app, it takes about 30 seconds or more then it goes into matchmaking.

I have tried revenge a friend who is active online & logging off but after pressing the revenge button for a few times, his base was then under attack from someone from the search queue. Revenge is achievable if that person lost the raid without giving a shield which is at < 40%.

But what Balam saying is revenge might be achievable if the person rode the 12/16hrs shield then go for auto defence once it expire. Will have to try it to find out.

[Sandalhat]

I have tried revenge a friend who is active online & logging off but after pressing the revenge button for a few times, his base was then under attack from someone from the search queue. Revenge is achievable if that person lost the raid without giving a shield which is at < 40%.

I believe if he doesn't get shielded he will appear in another attacker's search queue immediately, thus making revenge as difficult as your first attempt.

[JackoTheGreat]

I believe if he doesn't get shielded he will appear in another attacker's search queue immediately, thus making revenge as difficult as your first attempt.

Nope it doesn't because I managed to revenge my friend after he won the first defence without a shield.

[Sandalhat]

Nope it doesn't because I managed to revenge my friend after he won the first defence without a shield.

Won on defense? In champ league?