Embarking on a journey to lvl 40 Heroes - Care to join me?

[Stitch]

Do you not struggle maintaining your trophy lvl with the TH so exposed?

Same as Coldfury, I only play on boost (so 2 hours at a time). This is plenty of time to manage my trophies.

If I was going to logoff in-between raids then I would place the TH inside to help maintain trophies.

I was only able to play for 2 hours on Saturday morning and DE was friggen insane. I stayed in the 2000-2100 range and hit at least 5 or 6 with 3900 DE and barely had any below 1500. I'd say I averaged over 2000 per attack which is the best I've ever done. It was so good, I just kept nexting until I found a 2k+ base to hit and they kept coming.
I didn't record what my DE was before I started, but I'm pretty sure it was in the mid 80k's at the beginning of my 2 hour boost session and I finished with 140k.

Either way, it was off the hook and I didn't feel the need to do any more farming the rest of the weekend because I started my next hero upgrade and still had enough left over to do the following one which wasn't for another 4 days.

That's awesome. I love it when you get those hot streaks. On Saturday I had it the other way. Couldn't find anything over 600 DE, gave up raiding and just donating for the last hour. It's normally stable but can get very Hot or very Cold at times. Can't let it stress you.

Try max queen first, because she's proer when it comes to farming [even if you so do use giants wb barch at some point in time] vs the king... [the king always tends to run to suicide hehe although he does good damage]

This is the most efficient way. Now i'm farming in C1 with my level 40 queen I'm making 60k+ every 4 hours.

Here is a random sample of my att log for someone that asked - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post1967416

Anyway, I wish you luck with your quest, I'll be keeping an eye on your thread. My queen is at 30, powerleveling towards max, and my King has been abandoned at 12!

I farmed both heroes to near 30 with loons/minions doing the same as you.

Trust me, this method is more efficient, more consistent and larger profits. It's also less stressful, less searching and less reliant on collector bases.

Seeing as it takes hundreds of hours to max heroes in my opinion it's better to farm DE in Crystal with no DE troops, overall.

Yeah I agree that play style matters on if you need a hybrid base or not. Also your Army type. If you play in sessions its easy to maintain trophies. I just switched recently to cloud whiskey and it was a bit of an adjustment. I can attack spratically sometimes just need to Make sure to win and have at least a medium session here and there to make sure I'm possitive. When I'm doing 2 hour sessions with boosts and loons I go up so many trophies I have plenty to spare. I'd imagine for someone who uses an army that has more trouble 3 staring bases it might be a bit harder

TH9s will struggle more than 10s. I'm pretty much attacking any TH9 with DE not in the dead center. Or if their TH is outside I'll attack any TH9. 6 archers on their TH and then a full army getting to the DE storage. Normally 1 rage is enough.

If a TH10 can play in sessions then TH outside is fine, otherwise you might benefit from inside. However there are a ton of DE farmers about there so make sure your DE storage is heavily protected. Next to both Infernos (multi) is a good start.

[ell4746]

Cheers Stitch. Always value your input.

Also, I think I have mastered Edward from Quantums Loon 2 starring trick with Golums. If you run a Loonion Academy, I'd love to pop over.

I'll see you in the forum CW event if your there anyway.

[Coldfury]

I ended up working late last night so couldn't play, but as I mentioned I put my TH inside to keep from dropping anymore trophy's. Well the good news is My trophy's went from the mid 1800's to over 2100 in the last 12 hours or so. The bad news is the majority of them were lightning strikes over and over. lol

I'll occasionally get zapped with the TH outside, but almost always they'll grab the TH, so it's limited to 1 attack.

I don't really mind the DE swap though because it saved me an hour or two pushing the 150 trophy's back, but my net loss was around 5k DE overall.

Put the TH back outside this morning and within 2 or 3 minutes had my free shield.

[Roy2011ff]

Hi Guy's, loving this thread.
I'm near maxed TH9 (5 AT's left) but figured on getting Heros up as high as possible before TH10 (as frankly, I imagine that there is so much else to do)
Currently have AQ12 and BK13 is cooking.

I also have only DE upgrades left in Lab to do.

What the question is really, is this a mistake (DE protection wise)?
Should I go up to TH10 and get those infernos?

Clan - Squarerootof-1
IGN - Royboy2011ff

Appreciate yr opinion.

[Coldfury]

Hi Guy's, loving this thread.
I'm near maxed TH9 (5 AT's left) but figured on getting Heros up as high as possible before TH10 (as frankly, I imagine that there is so much else to do)
Currently have AQ12 and BK13 is cooking.

I also have only DE upgrades left in Lab to do.

What the question is really, is this a mistake (DE protection wise)?
Should I go up to TH10 and get those infernos?

Clan - Squarerootof-1
IGN - Royboy2011ff

Appreciate yr opinion.

I'm sure there are varying opinions, but I'll throw out an "it depends" from my perspective.

At TH9, it is noticeably easier and faster to farm gold because of the abundance of TH8's to cream. Obviously you lose those when you go to TH10, so you have to work a little harder for gold on TH9/10 bases only. It's still good, just not "as good".

However, with DE I've actually found it easier and faster to farm DE as a TH10 because the bases worth hitting are almost exclusively TH9/10 anyways so the extra 20 troop spaces, extra spell, and gob/WB upgrades help quite a bit on that endeavor. Throw in the extra DE drill and it just makes it makes life easier.

As you mentioned, there's no question that the IT's make it easier to protect your DE. With max TH9 defenses, and a pair of IT's in multi your DE attacks outside of zaps are virtually non-existent. Then again, depending on your playing style and time it may be a non issue. If you have a farming base layout and only get attacked once or twice a day with the majority being TH snipes then the savings may be minimal.

So, all that being said, it really depends on what your goals are. If you're still farming walls primary with heroes secondary then I'd say hang out at TH9 a little longer because the gold will be faster/easier and DE farming is still more than adequate for heroes/lab.
If you're good to go on your walls and focus on heroes/DE upgrades then I'd recommend bumping up to TH10 for the reasons mentioned above.

Don't forget as well, when you go to TH10 you're pretty much set back a solid month because of all the baby building/defense upgrades and you'll shift your primary farming focus to elixir for all the camp/drill/lab upgrades.
When I went TH10 I was about 6 weeks away from having all my TH9 defenses maxed. I'm about 2 months into TH10 now and I'm still 6 weeks away from having all my TH9 defenses maxed because i've been building/upgrading everything else. 2 IT's to lvl 2, 3rd xbow to lvl 3, 4 camps, DE drill, new AT, new cannon, new mine, new elixir pump, etc.

I personally went to TH10 a little early due to having all my lego's finished and wanting to get IT's for CW defenses. I also wanted to shift my focus towards heroes and was ok gradually adding my lava walls over time.

Hope this helps.

edit**
just noticed your clan name. I like it. I used to be a math nerd when I was younger.

[Roy2011ff]

Yeah, still 70 LVL9's let to get so net 100M Gold + 7 for the TH.
Another couple of weeks or so then I guess.

Good advice and thank you :-)

[R3beLl]

Anyone here farming DE up in crystal I - master with barch?

[Stitch]

Anyone here farming DE up in crystal I - master with barch?

Hey Reb,

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I'm farming DE in Crystal 1. 90% of bases have the DE in the storage (inside the base). 8% have DE in the pumps but active bases and 2% are abandoned.

I need giants/wall breakers and AQ to crack over 2k per raid here.
I need giants/wall breakers and no heroes in C2.
I could probably barch DE for 1.2 to 1.4k per raid in C3. Slow going though as DE is still in the storage most of the time.

[Arom]

Man you guys got me thinking maybe I'm missing out on loot by using mainly all looonians for De farming. Can I get your guys estimate on averages without heroes? Seems like you guys might be around 40-50 k average or so which is more than Me i'm usually around 25 but I get most of that while at work. I'm trying to use longer builds and less screen time when at home so i would only be able to do tier one marathons when wife is gone or asleep or something.


Edit: I see stich said about 10k De per hour boosting. What would your estimate be fury?

[Coldfury]

Man you guys got me thinking maybe I'm missing out on loot by using mainly all looonians for De farming. Can I get your guys estimate on averages without heroes? Seems like you guys might be around 40-50 k average or so which is more than Me i'm usually around 25 but I get most of that while at work. I'm trying to use longer builds and less screen time when at home so i would only be able to do tier one marathons when wife is gone or asleep or something.


Edit: I see stich said about 10k De per hour boosting. What would your estimate be fury?

Obviously it varies based on how loot's doing during the particular time and how many "collector" bases I see. I still can't pass up a 300k/300k base that has little or no DE. lol

On the very low side, if loot is really crappy I get 1000-1500 per attack and get 5-6 attacks per hour (boosted). So, that's been a worst case scenario in lower Crystal III of around 7k.
Pushing into higher Crystal III (2100+) there are a lot more 2000+ raids available and I tend to next until I hit those. I've only been doing the new farming method with giants for about a week, but I've been consistently hitting between 10k-12k per hour (boosted) up there chasing the 2k+ bases.
In an earlier post I mentioned on Saturday morning where it was just crazytown. I hit several 4k dead bases with full lvl 6 drills and don't think I had a single attack in two hours that netted me less than 2k.
For that boost period I was over 30k per hour, but that's in no way common and has only happened to me once in the last couple weeks.

I did try to do some DE farming the weekend before last with balloons/minions up in Crystal I/Masters III and I was able to steadily make progress, but the 660k DE "tax" for minions (24 loons, 60 minions) every attack eats into profits pretty fast.
You obviously know how you're doing with them, but I only managed to do between 6-8k per hour boosted with loons.

Overall, with several days off, clan wars, and life in general going on I've managed to loot 347,405 total in the last 15 days. So my average daily DE looted (based on HH) is 23,160 per day, but as I mentioned I've taken at least 4 days off completely and even last night only did 1 or 2 (non boosted) attacks so it's hard to estimate daily farming very accurately.

I'm currently sitting on 91.5k with 2.5 days left until I start BK16, so it's been very easy to stay ahead of my upgrades. I'm considering starting my Golem 5 upgrade in the next week or two just to get it out of the way now so I don't have to try and do it later when the heroes are "really" expensive.