It's time we do something about low level collectors

[D3X]

I am currently working on lvl9 walls, i only have 6 towers to upgrade and all my defences are maxed. I have done the calculations and lately my time is more valuable then nexting to find decent raids. I have dropped up and down and all around, the conclusion is raiding is frustrating at TH9 (for me)

Perhaps you're too high of a trophy. Look at 1500-1600 range, try and find collectors or easy TH8 storage raids.

In my earlier days i would raid for hours down at sub200, or i would try and attack with certain combinations.

Sub200 doesn't work effectively anymore. People used to do the less than 39% rule, and repeatedly raid the same opponents. There are some now that don't understand that concept and simply take all once, and ruining it for the rest of them.

latley i find my self loving raiding with hogs, however thats pretty much a trade off. I can get gold but DE is hard to come by. If only a TH9 could somone manage to raid TH10's without looking like a fool loot would be great. I seem to get 400K gold/elixer raids every few nexts . .. . problem is i dont have the fire power or (skill) to go up against inforuno towers.

To be honest, Hogs are an expensive and slow production army, you would need to wait for the army for up to 1.25hours without gems(for 4 heal spells). Try using a cheap and effective armies like: Barbarians and Archer (barch) or Barbarians, Archers and Minions (BAM). For farming, you do not need to raid TH10s at all.

so ya, my bread and butter is my collectors right now. i raid but only a few times a day. i am quite happy with 432k gold everyday. thats only 157,680,00a year . . . . quite a lot hu? its only 157 lvl9 walls so in 2 years i will have them done. However i am sure at some point SC will finally give us lvl12 collectors, right ?

That's not a lot to be honest, if I waited for 157m a year, my base would be weak. If you look at my signature, I've played just about a year. I've raided for more than 1.3billion in gold, and I'm not nearly the best farmers out there. 157milion a year would be only 11% of what I earned in that time, and keep in mind that I've collected from my collectors too. The other thing that you fail to realize is that, you lose gold from defenses and you also lose from matchmaking(next), so that takes a huge chunk out of your earnings. For me the collectors are spare change, and it pays for my day to day raiding costs (nexting) and basically covers for any losses that may come my way for the day (like defense losses) etc.

I hate to compare, but I finished my level 9 walls in about a month.

[ChiefHawk]

I like it. I am personally a die-hard Barcher and primarily target collector raids but lately the haven't been very profitable

[Clurichaun]

Im surprised the OP didn't just ask SC to make it where you can only collect resources from your mines and collectors once a day! It's my job to make sure I gain as much loot as possible while I lose as little as possible. I am TH7 working hard to get to TH8, then working as hard as I can to get to TH9, then finally working hard to hit TH10. Then once I am finally nearly maxed in TH10, I will worry about raising my collectors from 8 and 9 to lvl 11. You do realize that by upgrading a collector you actually lose loot for nearly a month compared to if you had left it alone for the last couple of upgrades right? and that's PER upgrade and not including the cost of the upgrade itself.

Go ahead and add an achievement if you want to, there would be nothing wrong with that. But SC knows that by limiting the advancement of players simply because they haven't upgraded the buildings YOU want them too, that they will lose tons of business. So go and find a better trophy range for your collector raids, or stop being so impatient with the search, as I have found no shortage of collector raids, and if I did, still wouldn't be the end of the world as that isnt the only way to play!

[radarjamz]

I don't know what should be done. Probably make an achievement for maxing collectors. Even at th7 I am seeing people with lvl 3 and 4 collectors. It provides no reason to raid!

[Clurichaun]

I don't know what should be done. Probably make an achievement for maxing collectors. Even at th7 I am seeing people with lvl 3 and 4 collectors. It provides no reason to raid!

For every th7 i see with lvl 3 and 4 collectors, i see 10 with maxed or near maxed collectors. Just hit the next button... its on the bottom right of your screen.

[Natesmiles]

I hate to compare, but I finished my level 9 walls in about a month.

Thier are people who finished level9 and lvl10 walls in a few hours?

I am not sure how to take that comment, are just informing me that if i put in 4 to 5 hours of solid raid times a day i too can get level9 walls in a month. I like this game, but i just dont have the drive or dedication to do that right now. I am pretty proud of what i accomplished so far, and yes i spent about 100$ so far . . . . so technically i am a gemmer.

Loot isnt what i was, and like the OP suggested silightly falls on us. Players who dont upgrate thier collectors put a strain on the loot. Its not like that statement can even be debaited.

I am in no way saying that thier isnt loot out their for the select few who have the drive to find it. I am saying the loot as a whole could be better if everyone upgraded thier collectors.

[D3X]

There are people who finished level9 and lvl10 walls in a few hours?

Sure, if you have $5000 to spend on gems.

I am not sure how to take that comment, are just informing me that if i put in 4 to 5 hours of solid raid times a day i too can get level9 walls in a month. I like this game, but i just dont have the drive or dedication to do that right now. I am pretty proud of what i accomplished so far, and yes i spent about 100$ so far . . . . so technically i am a gemmer.

But that's not farming? And no, you are not really a gemmer, but perhaps an average CoC player that doesn't farm very much. Besides, you don't need to farm 4-5 hours a day to actually get more loot than collectors. Just 1-1.5 hour of Barbs and Archers and you're likely up 800-1mil a day which is far better than just collectors. Think about it.

Loot isn't what i was, and like the OP suggested silightly falls on us. Players who dont upgrate thier collectors put a strain on the loot. Its not like that statement can even be debated.

No. It doesn't. I mean, active players collect from collectors, so you can't raid them for it. Unless you take loot from their storages, but that's not what we're debating about.

Secondly, the problem you face is actually relating to Boosting. People that Gem Boost their barracks for the sole purpose of farming inactive bases (that have collectors full?), thus why you feel that loot is worst. SC recently reduced the costs and time period for Barrack boosts, and there is a new breed of farmers that use gems to take advantage of this. The loot pool is only so big, and these boosters are constantly looking for the easy inactive bases, thus putting strain on the Loot availability for the average player.

[Natesmiles]

No. It doesn't. I mean, active players collect from collectors, so you can't raid them for it. Unless you take loot from their storages, but that's not what we're debating about.

Hmmm i think one of us might be confused, your telling me if a player in a certain trophy range is sitting with full storages and is being raided they are going to somehow avoid the collectors and get into someone storages?

I know i dont log in every hour to collect my collectors, so as maxed TH9 with a farming base. I can say for certain i get my TH sniped and a few archers and barbs go after my collectors. Granted they dont get much say under 20k to 60k gold, however if i didnt have maxed collectors that would be what 500 to 1000 gold ?

I doubt very much, that this doesnt happen over and over and over.

Btw how many active people play this way with a farmers setup? I could be wrong but i think its in the millions.


If you still cant wrap your head around how collectors are important to the entire game, what would happen if players could just delete thier collectors and did. I am guessing the whole economy could run on ..... what exactly?


Why do you think that in over a year thier hasnt been another level to collectors? This is just my opinion, but it could be the fact thier are a majority of high lvl players that are tierd agressive raiding, would love nothing more than a little extra gold throught thier collectors. These players are stuck in the middle of the gemmers with maxed bases and the many many new players.

They dont have to upgrade collectors as long as they keep adding new features to the game, and keep running commercials to drum up new players.

[dahimi]

No. It doesn't. I mean, active players collect from collectors, so you can't raid them for it. Unless you take loot from their storages, but that's not what we're debating about.

Where exactly do you think most of the game's loot comes from?

[Phoenix64]

Where exactly do you think most of the game's loot comes from?

*stopping in tracks*
Um, not really aimed at anyone in particular, but... to point out something that everyone seems to be overlooking, the 3/4-million bonus from clan wars seems to help a bit, considering how little the collectors give. That's like 750k/3k per hour= 250 hours, 250 hours/6 collectors= about 40 hours. Clan wars actually does help a lot. I only am sad about the cost of the NEXT button, and am already spending about 30k at least for every raid at th8.... hope I don't have to next as much at th9...