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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantor View Post
    If Apple or Google or whoever has handled the payment receives a refund-request they'll inform the developer of the app about it. Mostly the developers than take away all "digital goods" from the account and suspend it.

    it's the same procedure as if people buying gems through 3rd party websites/apps and violating Suoercells (or any other developers) TOS...
    Is the suspension permanent though? I could turn a starter townhall to level 10 with maxed defences by purchasing gems and using them. Only to claim a refund as it wasn't me behind the purchases. Let the suspension period end (if it has a timer) and continue playing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLordAriesx View Post
    It makes sense completely to think that it could be fraud. You need to put a password in order to get the gems. The parent must have credit card statements showing the purchases and catch them early, not after a ridiculous amount of money was spent. Either way you slice it , whether its fraud or not, he failed as an adult/parent. If the gems were spent there is no way he can get a refund.
    You're wrong on all accounts here. In civilized countries we give people the benefit of the doubt for a damn good reason.

    In this case, the amount spent could easily be done in a single day and certainly over the course of a few days. Credit card statements are irrelevant because a credit card wasn't used (you did read the thread right)? I'm sure the company issues billing statements, but not daily. The company did shut down the phone though which is what alerted them to the issue.

    They also explained how it was done. Fortunately, again in civilized countries we don't hold 11 year olds accountable for these sorts of actions. By their very nature they don't have the wisdom and life experience necessary to exercise good judgement.

    It's true the parent made a mistake, but everyone makes them. In this case it cost a bit of money (which if they contact support they can probably get refunded) which really in the grand scheme of things means very little. Hopefully, both the parent and the kid learned something from this and life goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karganeth View Post
    This is one of the points I'm trying to understand. The kid was 'smart' enough to purchase gems so we can pretty much guarantee he was smart enough also to use them ingame. So is the bill payer still eligible for a refund?

    Also thanks to the rest of you for making real word examples of what I'm trying to understand!
    Read the damn thread. The kid thought they could purchase, use the gems, and then cancel the transaction within 15 minutes. They either screwed up or were wrong. So yes, the 11 year old knew what they were doing, but thought (because generally 11 year olds aren't known for their wisdom) that it would be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahimi View Post
    Generally speaking most folks can get away with committing relatively small crimes without getting caught. Mostly it's the unlucky few and the repeat offenders that have issues.

    Even murders only have a 60% solve rate. How do you think gem theft ranks?
    With that thread that was closed that person was advised how to stop it from happening again. That part right there is key and actually the person I quoted is pretty spot on with how things work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirky View Post
    Wow, judging him when you clearly haven't read the thread.
    Judging ? I'm calling it as I see it. You don't think it's your responsibility to monitor your finances ? Because in doing so, you could prevent something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLordAriesx View Post
    Judging ? I'm calling it as I see it. You don't think it's your responsibility to monitor your finances ? Because in doing so, you could prevent something like this.
    This has very little to do with monitoring your finances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLordAriesx View Post
    Either way you slice it , whether its fraud or not, he failed as an adult/parent.
    Quote Originally Posted by xLordAriesx View Post
    Judging ? I'm calling it as I see it. You don't think it's your responsibility to monitor your finances ? Because in doing so, you could prevent something like this.
    I dont' know what your the first quote is if it is not judging.

    And you clearly hadn't read the thread as your description on how it as done is wrong

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    I was thinking of this (not doing it, I just think of stuff like that) but I didnt want to post it

    Its sad that some people will attempt this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahimi View Post
    This has very little to do with monitoring your finances.
    Listen , i don't know what part of the world you're from, but where I'm from, these types of things are avoided when you properly educate your offspring and set boundaries as to what is okay and not okay to do. By establishing some sort of order , this could be prevented. The kid is 11 years old and he doesn't know what the hell the money sign looks like? Stop sugarcoating things and hold people accountable for their mistakes. And yes, adults have ways of monitoring their account and saying "hey i don't remember buying 600 euros/dollars/pounds on itunes or google play"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirky View Post
    I dont' know what your the first quote is if it is not judging.

    And you clearly hadn't read the thread as your description on how it as done is wrong
    I did in fact read the thread before I came across this post and it clearly says that it has been going on for a month. The man didn't check his account for an entire month? Hell , I wish he could have all his money back , but whether he does or doesn't , it's on him.

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