Ringus10 or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Inferno Tower.

[peabak]

It's a different game when your heroes are stronger the whole other army added up together. I've joked about this a few times before, "He would've probably two starred that same base with maxed heroes and 240 goblins as easy as using maxed heroes and gowiwi." Well maybe with a lower % destroyed but yeah what I mean is, golems and skeletons are merely distractions.

Maxed heroes are the main threat to any base. The counter to such a powerful troop is pretty straightforward, you simply need more firepower than him. That's when decisions are made to let go of that pretty looking artwork antihog base that you have made or found somewhere on the forums. It starts happening at around 2900 and everything 3150 upwards will be anti gowiwi.

As long as your defenses or defense ring look anything like this "O", your firepower is scattered. All the GoWiWi'er need is to take out the point defenses on one side and your splash and discos will tickle on his heroes. A lot of anti gowiwi designs just cramp everything tightly together randomly and it looks fugly but it works because they have everything shooting at you at the same time. Hell some even write letters with their walls in champs. And you will see more and more bases that don't make any sense at all.

There is a little trick though for choosing or making a clan wars base. Some anti gowiwi designs are considered inferior to others in pushing because they try too hard to protect the core and makes it easy to abuse for one star wins with loonions or even barch. That's not the case for clan wars though. When pushing losing a lot of one stars easily is bad. But in clan wars no matter how many times you are one starred it's still a one star. Protecting your townhall with strong defenses is most important, even at the cost of a weak perimeter.

Thanks for the insight. Having only reached the dizzying heights of MastersIII high trophy level playing is something I know little about. I asked back at Sky Family Headquarters what proportion Attacking/Defending/StayingOnline contributed to success at high cup counts and was dismayed at how little defending and how important staying online matters. I have no yearning to take the iPad into the shower or have a "Time Zone Buddy" to take over when I go to bed. It all seems a bit absurd to me.

Ringus is a farming base. It's all about protecting loot the farming lands.

[tretertertgrtgt]

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Hi peabak. As a fellow base designer I love this kind of stuff. I've told the lads n ladies in my clan who are having problems with hoggers to check out your thread (hopefully they listen to me). I've attached the ringus-like base I used up until 2900 trophies that worked very well. I.....er....'borrowed' it from a few people I tried to raid and failed on the way up. I'm working on anti-gowiwi designs for clan wars, but that is a tough nut to crack.
What the folks in Sky HQ and llindvior said is absolutely true. Once you get up to around 2900+ trophies, what becomes important is staying online for several hours 'session raiding' plus having very high level heroes. It becomes a completely different game, and I have yet to see a base design that reliably wins defences up there.
"tre" from Hillstream

[samc233]

Hi peabak
Love your base and its design!
I am a TH 9 thats almost maxed but I have a few questions I wanna ask you.
Is the loot really bad for farmers when you upgrade your TH to 10. Do you have to be in the high leagues to get good loot.
As I said, my base is almost maxed... so what buildings need to be upgraded to max lvl before I upgrade to TH 10.
Also, my walls are half lvl 7 and half lvl 8... how many do you reckon I should upgrade.
Last but not least, infernos are obviously better as single targets in the lower leagues, but do you reckon Inferno towers are better as single target or multi-target in the high leagues.

Thankyou and I LOVE your bases off youtube and the forums

[peabak]

Hi peabak
Love your base and its design!
I am a TH 9 thats almost maxed but I have a few questions I wanna ask you.
Is the loot really bad for farmers when you upgrade your TH to 10. Do you have to be in the high leagues to get good loot.
As I said, my base is almost maxed... so what buildings need to be upgraded to max lvl before I upgrade to TH 10.
Also, my walls are half lvl 7 and half lvl 8... how many do you reckon I should upgrade.
Last but not least, infernos are obviously better as single targets in the lower leagues, but do you reckon Inferno towers are better as single target or multi-target in the high leagues.

Thankyou and I LOVE your bases off youtube and the forums

I maxed every building and defence. I got all walls to level 9 and all elixir lab work done but not dark elixir lab work. I'd reccomend nothing less before TH10. Most people disagree with me.

I have found loot at th10 fine. Things cost a lot but then build times are longer too. They only immediate thing I noticed was I was raiding TH8s a lot less. I guess that naturally means Im raiding a little higher than I was at th9.

[Beeplance]

Hi, peabak

was looking through this thread a few days ago, and I found your designs to be very polished and well thought out. I visited your base in game as well, but you're now using another base-design - which I also like very much. Are you going to publish/name your current base design and introduce it to us?

Thanks! (:

[peabak]

Hi, peabak

was looking through this thread a few days ago, and I found your designs to be very polished and well thought out. I visited your base in game as well, but you're now using another base-design - which I also like very much. Are you going to publish/name your current base design and introduce it to us?

Thanks! (:

Yes probably. It's working out really well for me atm farming between 2600-2800. You have to be very careful around here. They don't mess about.

[HowToKill]

Ok, where to start? This is going to be long, so Peabak, I am sorry if you actually do read this.

We begin our story from my days of getting 85% to maxing TH7. I, up to this point, have been making all of my base designs, and even some for my friend. I ended up making about 10 designs that I used for literally 1hr each in a single day on TH7. I had wished there were more walls to use.... fast forward half a day, I am speaking to my friend and he tells me that he just upped his TH to TH8 (we were both trying to max out 7, and see who would max the walls first). I was talking to him and he said that the loot there was the same, if not better...so I decided hell, why not? Next was my first fatal mistake....going onto the forums and reading about someone doing well going from TH7 to TH8 to TH9 and as a premmie! There was multiple discussions around the forums and google about how skipping to TH9 isn't terrible since there is the xbows and AQ. I thought to myself, "hey, AQ would be great for mopup crew with my BK...and those xbows would annihilate any opposing forces and make up for me being a premmie...". Well, I get the gems, upgrade to TH9, buy all TH9 structures (except dark barracks...still dont use them lol, both are 2 being built actually). I am at TH9, upped my archers to lvl 5, upgraded the lab again to lvl 7 to get the lvl 6 archers...and there was a fatal mistake, I was indeed able to research lvl 6 archers...except for the fact I didn't have 4 maxed elixir storages... so that went out the window, upgraded the lab for nothing... carrying on. Here is where Peabak and Ringus came into my life....

I had all of these new defenses and structures and I wanted to put them to good use with a tried and true design. I went around googling and youtubing "best th9 farming base" and found a lot of Cloud Whisky's design...and then happened upon Ringus.... it was beautiful

I decided that I would build Ringus and use it, especially since it seemed so effective, and I was total premmie... TH7 max defense at TH9....

I read all 69 pages of Ringus: An Early-Mid TH9 Farming Hog-Cleansing Design ..... it was a good read, even though it was very lengthy... My only complain was that it looks like a square, not a "ring" so to say, however I fixed that by moving out a single wall on each corner. This gave the base 3 advantages (I think... Peabak, please give me your input on this).
1) It added an extra space that a trap can be placed
2) Ringus is so popular that it changes the look a little bit...which could lead to someone attacking and getting served some fresh piggy since they didn't realize it was Ringus?
3) It made Ringus look more like a "Ring" in my opinion . It is more pleasing to my eye now.
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I used Ringus overnight, for a good 8 hours, and as a very Premmie th9... not a single attack, which was quite odd.

Now onto the next portion of the story.

In the Ringus thread I saw that Peabak finally endorsed a TH10 version! Woohoo!! I also went on to see him stating how he loved it because the inferno towers caused people to use the "next spell", which I found quite funny. This title, "Ringus10 or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Inferno Tower", should say it all. Peabak, you had me at "stop worrying".

I was reading around about Premmie TH9s and the best way to go about them, and I saw a few posts mentioning that it is better to go to TH10 if you are already a Premmie TH9 since you can at least get another xbow and 2 Inferno Towers (which are quite formidable and will deter attackers supposedly).

This newfound info, combined with Peabak's title and statements, led me to go Super Premmie Mode, and jump to TH10.

Once making it to the final stomping ground, I first bought myself the third xbow, and then went to buy the fabled Inferno Towers...only to be met with the sad fact that I needed to upgrade a storage a few times before I could have enough to even buy the Inferno Tower. I upgraded the storage, and went back and about 10 seconds later I had 2 shiny, new, and ready to kick butt Inferno Towers. I then bought the rest of the the defences/buildings/storages that I was now able to get. Then, finally, the time had come. I loaded up a copy of Peabak's Ringus10 and went to building.......and 15 minutes later I had the finished product. Something was still missing...and I soon realized what it was...Ringus10 did not have that lovely "Ring" look to it, so I quickly moved the 4 army camps 1 square diagonally out, and then the corner walls out. This again, gave the base 3 new advantages.
1) extra square to hide a trap, or trick an attacker into think there is a trap there.
2) It differs the design slightly, to hopefully mask the base and not throw off an alarm to an attack previewing the base.
3) It pleases my eyes (it sucks to have OCD, especially when it comes to designing things...)
I threw it into the builder as well to show you what it looks like now.
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The one thing I do not necessarily like about Ringus10 is that the mortars are all very exposed.... I do not use my AQ and BK at all for defense, so I was thinking of maybe swapping them with mortars...however, I don't think I can swap them since one is a non defense and the other is a defense? Perhaps you could shed some light on this Peabak?


Ringus10 is still fairly new, and it doesn't seem to have spread as viral as the original Ringus for TH9...So that alone should give this base an advantage.

I will let this awesome design lead me to victory! There was a lot of time and thought put into both designs, as well as many more that didn't make it to the final stages.... but regardless, I would like to say, Thank you Peabak!!! I am sorry for this short novel I have written....









Here is where I sit currently.... (yes, I know I am an extreme premmie.... yes, I have a "ROFL STOMP ME" sign posted on my base.... yes, my walls are all different levels (I plan on working them all up, don't worry).... yes, the loot is complete ♥♥♥♥ at TH10 at such a low trophy count (I will push back up to the 1800s, don't you worry...)...
If anyone has any advice for my base, as in what to do next, then please feel free to PM me. A list of priorities would be great.
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[peabak]

Thanks for your post.

The one thing I do not necessarily like about Ringus10 is that the mortars are all very exposed.... I do not use my AQ and BK at all for defense, so I was thinking of maybe swapping them with mortars...however, I don't think I can swap them since one is a non defense and the other is a defense? Perhaps you could shed some light on this Peabak?

You could try that but I think they are better where I put them. If you insist then once you have swapped two mortars with heroes take two of the defences on the outside and swap those with heroes. This way you maintain the strong ring of defences. You do however lose the awesome cc blocks on two of the sides, so I cant recommend it.

But try it and see. Good luck.

[HowToKill]

Thanks for your post.



You could try that but I think they are better where I put them. If you insist then once you have swapped two mortars with heroes take two of the defences on the outside and swap those with heroes. This way you maintain the strong ring of defences. You do however lose the awesome cc blocks on two of the sides, so I cant recommend it.

But try it and see. Good luck.

You raise a good point about the cc blocks, I hadn't thought about that.

In regards to my variation of the outer walls, does that compromise the way the ring will work?

Also, there was mention of a new base that you are using, I am a android user, so I couldn't look you up on gamecenter... but how about a teaser pic for all of us ?

[samc233]

I love it!
But I'm not to sure how well it would go against dragon and gowiwi/gowipe.
Sure the maxed out AD helps a lot against drags but I would say that having them on the outside is a huge disadvantage against drags (I reckon they would work good against loons). I have seen you replays and those people were pro drags users and they had the right spells, Who knows how u would have went. golems in gowiwi would be forced to go outside the base so witches and wiz would go to the middle of the base and they could get mowed down. Other then that I reckon this base would do well against all other strats but I would probably do something bout that AD and, well I doubt u will find farmers using gowiwi