Max Everything before upgrading TH ? Come on guys... think again!

[sharonsym]

here is whats needed to move on from th8 to th9 at least:

maxed splash defense (wiz towers, mortars)
maxed offensive farming troops that you are going to use (barbs, giants, archers, wbers)
walls to at least one level below your th.

Going ahead too premie is still a bad idea imo. this is for those going from th8 to th9.

I strongly believe that going on to th10 before maxing heros is a bad idea.. you gain very little offensive increase and lose the ability to farm th8s.

That is unless you are trophy pushing. But elsewise th9 is where you should be staying to farm walls and heros to max. IMO it is sweetspot for farming since december loot update. Previously th7 and th8 were the best farming ths due to loot bonus. But now that is nerfed and the increased offensive strength from AQ and increased loot availabe at upper th9, makes th9 the most efficient farming th.

The loot update essentially moved the best loot from all lower trophy range collector looting and dispersed it to higher level storage raids. This was to not discourage players from moving up in th and give upper players more loot to steal from each other.

can't agree more...

I don't get it, many people still think that th7 is still the sweetspot...

[sharonsym]

I know your thread is not advice people rushing TH. But you think max everything b4 upgrade TH might not worth for it then it wrong. I was TH7 like a week ago. I was max everything in TH7. Now I am TH8 with 175 Lvl 7 walls. It really really help out. Without lvl 7 walls. It would be a pain because many TH8 people attack real heavy troops quite often and you need stronger walls to stop them.

Hello my friend..

not really true... I'm a walls maxer, I do upgrade my TH after my wall finished. I believed loot is easier to get on lower TH too...

but... about 2 month ago, a new member came into our clans.
He's TH8 with yellow walls, lv.2 mortars, lv.2 wizard towers, just have 2x un-upgraded ad, the other ad haven't build yet.
at first, I think he will suffer his TH8 because his walls and def sucks... but I'm wrong... he catch up to red walls in no time, then purple and now he have more than 100 skull walls already.

this make me think maxing on low TH not worth the time, because you can perform faster on higher TH levels

again, this is not for everyone... but I think with the new loot system, most will... unless you really just depends on low th loot on low trophy / league

[ClarkTheShnark]

Only if ur SUPER active do I recommend not maxing EVERYTHING out

[ShooterGaymer]

I never will change my best strategy, upgrading all before the TH

[N8n8]

Hello my friend..

not really true... I'm a walls maxer, I do upgrade my TH after my wall finished. I believed loot is easier to get on lower TH too...

but... about 2 month ago, a new member came into our clans.
He's TH8 with yellow walls, lv.2 mortars, lv.2 wizard towers, just have 2x un-upgraded ad, the other ad haven't build yet.
at first, I think he will suffer his TH8 because his walls and def sucks... but I'm wrong... he catch up to red walls in no time, then purple and now he have more than 100 skull walls already.

this make me think maxing on low TH not worth the time, because you can perform faster on higher TH levels

again, this is not for everyone... but I think with the new loot system, most will... unless you really just depends on low th loot on low trophy / league

This made me regret maxing defenses vs walls. Defenses defend. Walls scare people off so you will not have to.

[JoshK]

With the new loot system, added Lv.6 troops and bunch of updates,
the game have much changed, and I think maxing everything is just an outdated advice now.

While it still make sure your progress will be smooth, but It's not efficient, boring and waste of effort ...

lots of people don't know this yet, and still following the old advice just because everyone in this forum just say 'max everything' anywhere.

so, I invite you all to think again... the new way to play this game, that is more better than the old maxing way.

WARNING: This thread do not advise everyone to rush th too, we're talking about when we should upgrade, and I think that is depend too on how we play, what troops we use and what is our goals.

True that. Before max was 200k/200k/2000 DE.
Now its as high as 400k/400k/3000 DE.

Therefore it is easier to go up as a premmie. There is also no advantageous loot bonus for attacking town halls HIGHER than your level... now due to the loot system.

That's why people complain about <100k loots alot. Premmies are smart by going this route because then they're most likely less of a target now.

[BoardGuest808888]

The main danger in upgrading your TH too fast is that you can get trapped being unable to raid effectively, so you can't save up enough resources to buy the upgrades you need to start raiding effectively.

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Well, if you're unable to raid effectively either because you have less time to play or some other reasons, it seems upgrading town hall will be even better for you. You get better troops, more army, more spells, heroes, to say the least. It is easier to raid with all the options of higher level town hall.

Maxed village only work if you actually have much time to spend on your village and very good at raiding higher level villages with a compromised army.

[TullSadum]

here is whats needed to move on from th8 to th9 at least:


maxed splash defense (wiz towers, mortars)
maxed offensive farming troops that you are going to use (barbs, giants, archers, wbers)
walls to at least one level below your th.


Going ahead too premie is still a bad idea imo. this is for those going from th8 to th9.


I strongly believe that going on to th10 before maxing heros is a bad idea.. you gain very little offensive increase and lose the ability to farm th8s.


That is unless you are trophy pushing. But elsewise th9 is where you should be staying to farm walls and heros to max. IMO it is sweetspot for farming since december loot update. Previously th7 and th8 were the best farming ths due to loot bonus. But now that is nerfed and the increased offensive strength from AQ and increased loot availabe at upper th9, makes th9 the most efficient farming th.


The loot update essentially moved the best loot from all lower trophy range collector looting and dispersed it to higher level storage raids. This was to not discourage players from moving up in th and give upper players more loot to steal from each other.

can't agree more...

I don't get it, many people still think that th7 is still the sweetspot...

@sharonsym: So now you're saying: Don't linger too long in low TH-levels, but max it at TH9 ? ! ?
That's not the same statement as your OP.

To all those who say at TH9 loot's better because of increased loot cap, just stay aware or remember, that (gemming apart) it takes a minimum of 25 days and a total of 23,600.000 elix to upgrade Lab, SF, 4x AC and let's say Giants+Barbs.
That's a long time until you can get rolling and quite an amount of elix to gather....all the while TH10 can now attack you with only 10% loot penalty. Just consider this along the way please, theory and practice are not in sync here.

TS

[fre3dom]

Well, if you're unable to raid effectively either because you have less time to play or some other reasons, it seems upgrading town hall will be even better for you. You get better troops, more army, more spells, heroes, to say the least. It is easier to raid with all the options of higher level town hall. Maxed village only work if you actually have much time to spend on your village and very good at raiding higher level villages with a compromised army.

Except better troops, more army, more spells, heroes aren't instant and free. If someone can't raid effectively, how do you think that they can get enough resource to upgrade all of those things, especially when they lose the easier option of attacking the lower TH?

Maxing village can work better for people that isn't good at raiding higher level village because you can get more loot when raiding lower TH.

I don't deny that going premature has its own advantages, but some of the advantage of going premie that you guys said are actually a bad condition for some people... For people with skills on raiding and has time to do it, then going premie after you max your farming troops are a really great idea, but not everyone has the same condition.

I really hope that you guys can understand that this game has multiple ways to be played that suit different peoples better, especially because not everyone is a hardcore gamer and they play however they think it's fun

[sharonsym]

@sharonsym: So now you're saying: Don't linger too long in low TH-levels, but max it at TH9 ? ! ?
That's not the same statement as your OP.

I don't get it...
yeah, I'm saying staying too long on lower th levels is waste of time.

and yes TH9 is the place we should max, this is because in TH10 farming army don't get increased stats...

To all those who say at TH9 loot's better because of increased loot cap, just stay aware or remember, that (gemming apart) it takes a minimum of 25 days and a total of 179,600.000 elix to upgrade Lab, SF, 4x AC and let's say Giants+Barbs.
That's a long time until you can get rolling and quite an amount of elix to gather....all the while TH10 can now attack you with only 10% loot penalty. Just consider this along the way please, theory and practice are not in sync here.

TS

I don't get it too where you got 179 mil numbers?

Lab = 2.5mil
SF = 1.6 mil
4x AC = 9mil

it's just 13 mil

and for the upgrade time, it is about 5 days for each 6 buildings ...
if we do them efficiently with 3 builders to work on this non stop, it will just takes 2 cycle (10 days) to complete

I do this all as my first priority once I arrive on TH9.
I get 2 of my camps maxed in my first week and get the rest on my second week.

for the Giants / Balloon upgrade it's 6mil each. You just need one of them

totaled all... it's about 13+6=21 million elixir and 15 days for labs and first lv.6 troops

if you're carrying 6 million elixir from TH8, then you just need to farm 15milion rite?

getting 15 million of elixir is very easy on gold2 league. everybody is having like 3-4x amount of elixir to loot. You will easily find easy 250K+ elixir raid in no more than 10x nexting.
Thus if you raid effectively 10-15 and getting 3mil a day, a week of raids (21 millions) is much more than enough to pay all the upgrade.
Okay, you're raiding just 5 times a day and get 1 million of elixir a day... Still it won't take more than a month to do that all.

So, It's 2 weeks to catch up, or 1 months if you don't have much time.
If you're complaining the 1 month to catch up? then how about 4 months wasted to max th8?

And, about TH 10 guys?
If you're a maxed one, saving gold too for the expensive defence / xbows, they will take them all along with your elixir and DE.
But If you're a premie and spending all your gold into cheap upgrades / walls, they won't bother to drop on your base...

Well it's not just a theory, it actually works for me... and again if everybody thinks It's just achievable by playing non stop all day long to prevent getting attacked, it's totally untrue...

if you feel TH9 loot is worse than th8, you must do something wrong
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