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Thread: Max Everything before upgrading TH ? Come on guys... think again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoodooRage View Post
    Bottom line, right where I am now, all 5 of my builders are continually busy. It's not like me magically jumping to TH9 is going to make my builders and labs go any faster. I don't see any logic in making that jump. I know I want to upgrade those defenses. I know I probably want to get some more skull walls. I know I want to still research more troop upgrades. If I jump to TH9, likely that will all go on the back burner while I jump on all the new stuff.
    they are not going to be faster, but you can have more alternatives of what to upgrade later...
    for example, I would prefer to get WT lv.7 before I start working on my cannons.

    and when you're busy and you have no time to raids, you still have some cheap upgrades instead of upgrades that cost more than 2 millions.
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    The whole notion that it's easier to farm when you upgrade is ridiculous. Farming is about making an efficient army to take gold as fast as you can from mines or poorly designed bases. The best way to do that is by using a BAM army. The amount of gold per hour you can get as a th8 is immense once you learn how to use BAM effectively. All the fancy lvl 6 troops don't mean squat for an efficient farmer.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my lvl 6 balloons (I still hate giants, their DPS is just pathetic even at lvl 6). But to cook an army of balloons takes 40 minutes. In that time as a th8 BAM farmer you could have farmed 1 million gold.

    What it really boils down to is your style of play and where you want to end up. If you farm with tier 1 troops efficiently and one day want to max your entire base (including walls) then the smart play is to stay until you max everything (I will caveat this by saying that up until th9 you should make sure you prioritize walls early so you don't have idle builders while your upgrading walls, and don't ever wait on your lab once your farming army is maxed).

    If you are a storage raider who prefers to use spells and longer cook time armies or you want to focus on clan wars then you should go ahead and go premie.

    There is not a "right" or a "wrong" way to play this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
    The whole notion that it's easier to farm when you upgrade is ridiculous. Farming is about making an efficient army to take gold as fast as you can from mines or poorly designed bases. The best way to do that is by using a BAM army. The amount of gold per hour you can get as a th8 is immense once you learn how to use BAM effectively. All the fancy lvl 6 troops don't mean squat for an efficient farmer.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my lvl 6 balloons (I still hate giants, their DPS is just pathetic even at lvl 6). But to cook an army of balloons takes 40 minutes. In that time as a th8 BAM farmer you could have farmed 1 million gold.

    What it really boils down to is your style of play and where you want to end up. If you farm with tier 1 troops efficiently and one day want to max your entire base (including walls) then the smart play is to stay until you max everything (I will caveat this by saying that up until th9 you should make sure you prioritize walls early so you don't have idle builders while your upgrading walls, and don't ever wait on your lab once your farming army is maxed).

    If you are a storage raider who prefers to use spells and longer cook time armies or you want to focus on clan wars then you should go ahead and go premie.

    There is not a "right" or a "wrong" way to play this game.
    BAM's most important key is total troop capacity. The higher the TH the higher u'll get the camps.. TH9 get max of 220 troops compare to TH8 which is 200 (same as TH6). Not here to convince ppl to go premature TH, just disagree with ppl saying we need to max everything first... a lot of players including myself show that we succeed with premature TH and could do even better than most of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot View Post
    BAM's most important key is total troop capacity. The higher the TH the higher u'll get the camps.. TH9 get max of 220 troops compare to TH8 which is 200. Not here to convince ppl to go premature TH, just disagree with ppl saying we need to max everything first... a lot of players including myself show that we succeed with premature TH and could do even better than most of players.
    BAM's most important key is definitely NOT total troop capacity. That's the least importing thing with BAM. Its about speed, speed, and only speed. If you use it properly you should almost never use all of your troops and you should get in 8-10 attacks per hour. If you go to th9 you eliminate th7 collector raids. Which makes it much harder to get in more raids, which means less gold per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
    BAM's most important key is definitely NOT total troop capacity. That's the least importing thing with BAM. Its about speed, speed, and only speed. If you use it properly you should almost never use all of your troops and you should get in 8-10 attacks per hour. If you go to th9 you eliminate th7 collector raids. Which makes it much harder to get in more raids, which means less gold per hour.
    Speed is important but number is also important...

    Don't know how much loots u get per raid and don't know th7 give good loots or not... i get 100-300k of each per raid of TH8-9-10 with a very premature TH9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
    BAM's most important key is definitely NOT total troop capacity. That's the least importing thing with BAM. Its about speed, speed, and only speed. If you use it properly you should almost never use all of your troops and you should get in 8-10 attacks per hour. If you go to th9 you eliminate th7 collector raids. Which makes it much harder to get in more raids, which means less gold per hour.
    BAM is about being efficient, in all ways. For example, the troop capacity, the cost, the time, and not using all troops. I personally am a big BAM user, because it is good for someone like me who can log on every few minutes to raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smalls View Post
    The whole notion that it's easier to farm when you upgrade is ridiculous. Farming is about making an efficient army to take gold as fast as you can from mines or poorly designed bases. The best way to do that is by using a BAM army. The amount of gold per hour you can get as a th8 is immense once you learn how to use BAM effectively. All the fancy lvl 6 troops don't mean squat for an efficient farmer.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my lvl 6 balloons (I still hate giants, their DPS is just pathetic even at lvl 6). But to cook an army of balloons takes 40 minutes. In that time as a th8 BAM farmer you could have farmed 1 million gold.

    What it really boils down to is your style of play and where you want to end up. If you farm with tier 1 troops efficiently and one day want to max your entire base (including walls) then the smart play is to stay until you max everything (I will caveat this by saying that up until th9 you should make sure you prioritize walls early so you don't have idle builders while your upgrading walls, and don't ever wait on your lab once your farming army is maxed).

    If you are a storage raider who prefers to use spells and longer cook time armies or you want to focus on clan wars then you should go ahead and go premie.

    There is not a "right" or a "wrong" way to play this game.
    storage raid in TH9 using tier 1 troops isn't hard... you don't always need golems, hogs, pekka or dragons

    tier 1 troops, mixed Lv.6 Giants, Barbs, Archers, will do it

    yeah but there is "dumb", "effective", and "smart" way to play this game

    anyway, I want to ask, when did you start this game?
    because it's looks like we're close...
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    I'm only going to max out TH 8 cause a maxed TH 8 looks boss. Lol

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    This is my second post regarding "almost"the same topic. Ok, what is the clear definition of maxing out?
    1) when u have all yr def max? Including walls
    2) when u have all yr troop max? Including army camp
    3) when u have only splash def and farming army max?

    For me, my indicator of maxing out is no 2). In my opinion, no matter how weak yr def is, you can always survive with strong troops. I am TH 8 left with only tesla (lvl 3 now) to upgrade and 15 pieces wall left to lvl 8. Thats why i dont find no 1) is a good indicator becoz it is not that long to upgrade def compare to have max troop. And why didnt i chose no 3)? It is becoz, unless yr clan didnt declare war or no trophy push season, it is really hard to push with only a few strong troops or only with farming troops. I love to have a combine troops and during war, it is like u have all cards in hand to choose since u can choose which base to attack and play out yr best card. Provided if u have good cards of course.

    I still left with long lab upgrade. I'm upgrading it continuosly tho. What left are Pekka to lvl 3, minion to lvl 3 and 4, hog to lvl 4, valkyrie to lvl 2, golem to lvl 2, lightning to lvl 5, heal to lvl 5, rage to lvl 4 and 5. Barb king is now lvl 7. I might rush TH before upgrading valkyrie, golem and lightning tho..haha

    Well, it is nothing wrong or right for the strategy. It is just a game then enjoy it. It is not like yr life depends on it. Lol

    My points are:
    1) max all troops so u have more strategies for trophy push and war
    2) minimum allowable to rush TH when u have all farming troops max and mastered the farming art.

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    I wish everyone was a premie. That would make things so much easier for me (whether it's farming or trophy pushing)

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