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[TheConfuzed1]

5 questions that have been brought to my attention by this thread....


1. Why are farmers caring about cheap shielding


3. What number is after 1?


4. Where is my other taco?


5. Why are you guys attacking a potato?

6. What happened to number two?

[BonbeeTyrael]

6. What happened to number two?

I ate it, along with the taco.

[Stitch]

I believe I have addressed you in a previous thread,
but I will patiently address you here again.

1. Revenging is virtually impossible in Champ league now.
   So the days of attacking and reattaching back and forth are over.
   .
2. You assume that it is actually easy for us to find one another up here.
   
   Maybe. Once in awhile.
   But it doesn't happen everyday.
   
   I come from a family of 8 clans - and I am yet to find / be found by anyone in those clans.
   
   In fact, in my 6 weeks of being a Champ, I have found a whooping grand total of (wait for it) THREE Champs that I know;
   and I have only been attacked ONCE by someone that I know.
   
   (In contrast, like I mentioned before, I have skipped Cloud Whisky's M2 base at least 1x a day)

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The little (really, really wishes that people would stop harking about things they know nothing about) Potatroll

Maggie,

Can you please clarify this for me?

I was under the impression that the system offers you bases based on your trophy level. So at low levels you get + or - 200, but at high levels you get + or - 600?

Where you are you'll see plenty of Masters bases but I thought the guys up at 4,200 only see to 3,600. Therefore it's easier to find each other? Is this wrong?

It was my assumption that they were using alliances to not suffer heavy defeats and so keep edging forward, basically into an area on the game that they control.

I know that when I got to 3,750 i couldn't find anyone for hours. It wasn't like this at 3,500. So I would have thought a coordinated offline and search for player would be very possible up high.

Sorry if this is wrong, please share what is really happening to help the rest of us.

Thanks

[acealive]

For now I'm the only one that have written 'I DON'T OFFER CHEAP SHIELDS', anyone else?

If I ever get to champs (lol) and somebody pays me enough, like an iTunes card per cheap shield, then I might do it
Depends on the incentive, like most things in life.

[YourBestBuddy]

I agree, this is unfair, it's ruining the whole idea of 'Clash' of Clans, it is understandable though, for some, they aren't confident wit their base so they want to perfect it until their 'shielding' stops, but when you talk about doing this so you keep your trophies and earn gems that way, it's completely different. I have experienced this type of stuff before, on global many times, with people abusing any champion who says 'hi' to 'Get a life' and 'Become Legit', this is unfair for the champions out there who just have an awesome base, they get blamed for what their friends do. I believe that there should be a kind of system, I really don't know what sort or how it will work yet, but anyway, to all those champions out there who are 'legit' make a stand!


Thanks,


Buddy

[Daddy]

Guys it's an interesting subject that needs to be discussed in an adult way.

But the forum has rules about discussing fluffy bunny, i've deleted a few posts about that please don't be responsible the thread closing by continuing.

Cheap shielding - within TOS, do you want to sign up to stop it (per OP)...or do you actually care?
Fluffybunny - very much against the TOS and against the company forum rules to discuss - all it does is provide free advertising for the sad people who feel that ch34ting gives them some kind of satisfaction, not realising or more likely not caring that it ruins it for everyone up there.

[xXChrnoXx]

[thisismine]

Guys it's an interesting subject that needs to be discussed in an adult way.

But the forum has rules about discussing fluffy bunny, i've deleted a few posts about that please don't be responsible the thread closing by continuing.

Cheap shielding - within TOS, do you want to sign up to stop it (per OP)...or do you actually care?
Fluffybunny - very much against the TOS and against the company forum rules to discuss - all it does is provide free advertising for the sad people who feel that ch34ting gives them some kind of satisfaction, not realising or more likely not caring that it ruins it for everyone up there.

Thank you for the reply. 100% agree with what you are saying here.
As I said before i think that cheap shielding is not against any rules, but against the spirit of the game. I think it's like soccer combine where 2 teams decide who has to win before the match; they aren't violating any soccer rule (offside, excetera) but they are doing something wrong, something that spoils the fun.
And you can agree that, despite what Potato says, there is a substancial difference between the TH exposed of a farmer sniped by some stranger and the voluntary 40% defeat or 1 star win: first of all reason because you can't find voluntarily a farmer... but above 3600/3700 you can find voluntarily a trophies hunter...
What I can't stand it's that up there instead of a fierce struggle for the first positions what seems to happen is a peaceful agreement between the players to help someone or someone else.

PS to Potato, watch the video from 6:40 (he is confirming what I said)



As this player says in the video it's not illegal, but in my opinion it's unfair and cloudy.

[rjdofu]

As this player says in the video it's not illegal, but in my opinion it's unfair and cloudy.

How is it unfair when it's within the rule and almost everyone tries to use it. People are clever and they can bend the rule to their advantage to stay at the top, that's how it always works.

This is a game people, not an Olympic competition.

[Beerking]

FARMING CHEAP SHIELD:
Defender TH exposed - TH sniped, loot saved
Attacking TH exposed - TH sniped, loot bonus gained, trophies gained

HUNTING CHEAP SHIELD:
Defending TH exposed - Higher player attacks you, you usually get totalled, but you lose a grand total of under 10 cups, restoring your sanity for 12 hours of your life
Attacking TH exposed - Higher player gains loot & cups

Sounds like a good deal on both sides to me.

As countless of people have mentioned before,
it is not in any way, a form of chèáting.
You are confusing it with a strategy to help you progress along the game.


My point exactly - as I mentioned earlier, I have found Cloud Whisky 1x / day since I started pushing.
Fob benefited from my 36 cups when I massively failed on his base while trying to shield him
(yes, this is the risk that comes from cheap shielding, so honestly, we don't do it for everyone & anyone because of the risks)
But all three of you are / were in Masters.
(And you benefited from a shield by me as well. )

Till date, I have found only 3 Champ players that I know in the time I have been up here.

Kept what I thought was interesting.

First off, the "hunting cheap shield" you're talking about is not the ones that are in question here. You can see alot of top players making poinless Clans (Bosshog is a prime example) in an attempt to get a free shield (or Alliance attack), this happens when a player with lower trophies finds them and then 40% them for a 1 trophie loss (The mohammed Maher clip is one example, Another is Stier http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLEBb3rqJqUqDbky74uuSZA you can see his defence log in some of the videos). Bosshog was number 1 World wide and in a clan named milkshake or something like that and it was closed, you can't really convince me that he was waiting for someone higher up to steal less of his trophies.

I'm not saying that it's easy to find someone but you can't compare your 8 family clan with this.
1. You're alot lower then the players in question (eventhough a impressive number).
2. You can't attack clan members and I'm sure that there's just a few that's high enough in your other 7 Clans . Giving you maybe 5 people looking for you in a wider range compared to atleast 20 in a much more narrow range 3800+.

And to be fair, what does "it's not easy" have to do with anything? Is it less wrong to rob a bank instead of a 7/11 because it's harder to do? (Just comparing the "it's not easy" part I'm not comparing Cheap shielding with bank robbing)

The farming excuse (now I'm comparing to the real cheap shielding that's stated above), Finding clan members and attacking them isn't at all the same as farming with your TH outside since it's not a guaranteed success, you still risk losing Everything because you don't have a deal with the attacker.
I have my TH outside while farming in master and 40% of the attackers goes for my Resources aswell or Lightning my DE. Yes you may fail at cheap shielding but poor execution doesn't make it right.

"The it's not chéáting it's strategy statement", I saw a top player comparing it to When Michael Shumacher won a race since his team mate slowed down, might not be pretty but it's not against the rules. It would be a fair comparison if it was the no. 1 and 2 player that does this to eachother, now it's more like if Shumacher finished second by 1 sec but his team mate that finished 105th took 2 seconds and added it to his time, giving Shumacher the win. I'd call that chéáting.

The fact is that SC disabled the revenge option for high level players to avoid cheap shields or atleast make it harder, so SC obviously sees it as an exploit.

Another exploit is the Alliances Which basicly is a deal with other Clans, feeder Clans and your own clan (if you leave it) with a maximum trophie loss roof, it's probably more common now since it's hard to get a real cheap shield. This prevents any other Clans to establish at the top since their players lose twice as many trophies on defence, 2* instead of 1*.
The Alliances compared to farming would be: "You can attack my Resources but you're only allowed to steal 2 storages" which for every farmer sounds like a bad joke.

We obviously don't agree if you Think that this is fair play. Your definition of cheap shielding isn't even Close to the general apprehention of what it really is. I guess that you havn't been around long enough if you really Believe that thats what people mean when the says "Cheap shielding ".

My rant is over, I wish all of those who made it to the bottom a very nice weekend! Cheers!