Are you serious? How is this a good idea?Originally Posted by thisismine
It is at best an ill thought out idea and worst its just stupid.
Are you serious? How is this a good idea?
It is at best an ill thought out idea and worst its just stupid.
Great idea because it could remove a lot of problems: cheap shielding, people entering in clans to ask troops and then leaving, people kicked before the season ends, people that create clans and then leave it, spammers, trolls, and many other horrible things.
Its a stupid idea.
How will it stop people leaving a clan? Are you going to force them to stay in a clan for the whole 2 week period?
What happens if a leader boots someone half way through the season, do they remain clanless till next season.
What happens if i want to go visit friends in another clan?
What happens when I get booted, do I have to apply to my own clan to join again?
What about the less established clans that are struggling to get members?
I really dont think you have given this idea any serious consideration. Im baffled as to how it could be considered a good idea.
Might wanna consider that visiting between family clans is kinda a big thing.
Not sure how members of family clans will react if you take away that social aspect from them.
Its a stupid idea. NO IT ISN'T
How will it stop people leaving a clan? Are you going to force them to stay in a clan for the whole 2 week period? YES, YOU ARE FORCED TO STAY IN A CLAN FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON (ONLY THE FIRST 3 DAYS, OR FIRST 6 DAYS, BUT BETTER 3 DAYS, YOU CAN GO AROUND TO VISIT OR TO SEARCH A NEW CLAN)
What happens if a leader boots someone half way through the season, do they remain clanless till next season. THE LEADER CAN EXPELL SOMEONE ONLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON (MAYBE THE FIRST 3 DAYS, OR 6 DAYS)
What happens if i want to go visit friends in another clan? YOU CAN DO IT ONLY IN THE FIRST 3 OR 6 DAYS
What happens when I get booted, do I have to apply to my own clan to join again? YOU CAN GET BOOTED ONLY THE FIRST 3/6 DAYS
What about the less established clans that are struggling to get members? IF A CLAN HAVE LESS THAN 40 MEMBERS IT CAN RECRUIT UNTIL THEY HAVE 40 MEMBERS BUT THEY CAN'T EXPELL ANYONE IN THE 'CLOSED' PERIOD AND NOONE CAN GO OUT
I really dont think you have given this idea any serious consideration. Im baffled as to how it could be considered a good idea. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER MY IDEA
In my opinion this is a very GOOD idea!!!!!
Sorry but its still a terrible idea.
You mention 3 or 6 days, why 3 or 6.
Let take the first example where I ask if a leader can boot, your answer 'Not in the closed period' which i assume is going to be 8 or 11 days. So you could end up with a situation of a non welcome member donating goblins and abusing clan chat for 11 days with the leader powerless to do anything.
I can shoot holes like this in every point you made thats why I consider it a stupid idea.
Secondly the topic of this thread is cheap shielding and to be specific they are refering to issues in champ league. So you want to bring a bad idea in that will have negative consequences for everybody and wont actually stop cheap shielding at all.
If this is an issue (I have no experince of it so I dont know) then deal with it at the root of the cause rather than ill thought out blanket ideas.
We have a new generation in stored for us,you sir must have never heard of air lolo the sky goddess raining bombs from her black balloons.It's clear that cheap shielding is very common in champions league and mostly in the top 100 global positions! For top players it's more important to have a faithful group of friends than really knowing how to attack a base...so don't ask them about GoWiWi or GoWiPe or what else they use, instead ask them how they find so faithful and accomodating clanmates; how they convince/force them; how they reward them. Maybe with money? In the past I heard that some top players reward the players that give them cheap shield with gems... (some players have spoken before about a sort of 'mafia')
My dream is that the next time some youtuber interview a top player he doesn't ask him how he plays and how he farms and how he attacks, because these are not the keys of his success. The key to their success is the cheap shields they recieve from their friends. So these are some questions that I would do to one of them if I could have the opportunity:
- How can you find so accomodating clanmates?
- How do you reward them for being so kind with you? (They could next you but they didn't so they expected some reward, i suppose...)
- Do you think that what you are doing is fair in respect of the other players and the developers?
- Do you enjoy playing the game in this manner? Staying alone in your clan waiting a cheap shield from you friends...
Some of my reflections:
Clash of Clans is a social game: the social part is outstanding in the game mechanics. I have reflected a lot about how the social aspects occur in the game, especially in a clan and in the relationships between clanmates, and I came to the conclusion that CoC reflects the real world social aspects in their entirety: good ones and bad ones. And like in our society where the power is and where the money are the bad ones predominate. And sadly this is a inevitable human feature. Like in our society, in the lower clans the good social aspects prevail and everyone think only to enjoy the game: they donate without problems and rules, they accept the nicest guy and not the strongest, they laugh, no one would dare call someone 'noob' (like someone called me), they play the game like a 'game'.
But when you reach the higher clan and the top players (as I have experienced) evil creeps, power game begins, the rules begin to be more important than fun, insults between players start, hate, envy, bullying... They call you noob, they force you to donate more, they expel you if you say something different from their opinions...
And the higher you go the most you see this bad social aspects.
So I think that cheap shielding is the climax of this exasperation. Like in the real world where there is a powerful man there are a lot of people that throw themseves at his feet, in the game there are a lot of players ready to do anything to please the powerful guy on duty.
You would never see dirty power games in a parish lost in the countryside, but you will see them in Vatican or in the Parliament. Same thing in the game...
BUT
this is a GAME.
Why do we have to replicate the bad things of the real world in a game?
The only solution to this problem is that the players that are offering cheap shields to the top players stop doing it. If every players stop offering them the game will be more fun and more fair.
My solution?
This is not difinitive but it's a start: put your IGN name below and write close to it in block capitals 'I DON'T OFFER CHEAP SHIELDS' and add to it what you want. And if you know someone that offers cheap shields convince him not to do it, for his own good and for the good of all. The real problem is not who receive them but who offer them (like the mafia that ask for the protection money and the people that surrender to them).
Go in peace and enjoy the game!
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I won't be in the top 20 players but i will play the game with respect to all the players and I will enjoy it more
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I have started a new thread with this particular idea to not go out of theme in this one. I have also done some changes to the original idea to make it more useful.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...61#post1523861
One of the biggest draws to this amazing game is the social aspect at all levels of play, so I'm not sure your idea will appeal to most of the players. However, your engagement on the forums is appreciated.
Remember and please understand, farmers and high cups both manipulate the game mechanics but to different ends. Both are a variation of cheap shielding. The only difference is one protects loot and the other protects cups. If anything, SC loses a lot of potential revenue with farmers because of how farmers manipulate the game mechanics, that much is obvious from a business posture. Also, farmers make up the majority of not just the forums but the game itself. I dread the day cup chasers start complaining about it, at least to the degree others complain about them.
If SC had the stigma with champ league play that you and others do they would have corrected it over a year ago with those top players.
As you say, just play the game as you enjoy it
