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[Sandalhat]

This is obviously a massive problem and something needs to be done about it.Yes if you intentionally lose a game at 40% to give a shield then its che$ting.Ok so maybe you cant prove it all the time but this isnt a court of law.I think that if it happens more than say 2-3 times in champion you should be banned for a day or two.if they press end battle then it can be proven because they pressed it.They should make it so that if a pattern emerges of quitting at 40% then you get a short ban and anymore after that a longer ban

What if he loses internet connection?

Or goes into battle with only 2 barbarians? Too obvious? How about a specific combination of troop that will never get more than 40% against a maxed base, say 40 giants and 8 wizards?

[Beerking]

Losing on purpose, this is the basis of your argument, and the only basis.

You can't prove losing on purpose, at least not in this game. Internet connection can be lost easily, have you tried raiding on third world country internet? Ever lightninged a tree, raged a bush? Ever accidentally tapped surrender?

How would you prove that the top players' clan mate lost to him on purpose, while you zapping a tree is an accident?

And if i 39% you and take all your resources, kill your heroes, kill your cc, but give you 50 trophies, are we ♥♥♥♥♥ing? I could say i had a deal with you, just as easily the top players can say they did not make a deal.

How do you establish a method of proving?

Have we really come to this? The discussion was whether it is right on not, not if I can prove it, again moving the conversation won't help you.

But for the sake of it, In the Mohammed Maher interview that Daddy did, he attacked his own account and stopped the attack at 40%+.
The youtube link I posted in a previous comment of Stier (was no1 for short period of time), he plays with alot of different accounts, you can see his defence log in some of the videos, it's himself attacking his top account (you can see him play with his other accounts in other videos) to get to the number 1 spot.

Got any more arguments?

[CunningLinguists]

They are hoping that one of their friends find them so they get a cheap shield?

Just like how a farmer throws out his town hall and hoping someone snipe their town hall and go.

Both are hoping for something that benefits them but why are you only condemning one but justifying the other?



P.S. I believed farmers get TH sniped at a higher % as compared to those champs getting their bases found by their friends... At least thats what I believed as I never have being at champ level

Yeah i think they are 2 totally different things,You cant compare the two as one is obvious and intentional and its designed to keep you on top whereas the other is the opposite.One is a win/win the other is an exploit that ruins the game

[Beerking]

Am I missing something? By leaving the clan, does he guaranteed to be found by his clan mates? What are the chances? 5 or 6 out of 10 defenses? Please pardon me for my ignorance as I never have being in champ so I do not know the actual statistics...

Farmers leaving out their town hall for sniping is also taking their chance. I do know the % for that and can pose logs to prove if needed to. Currently Im farming at 2400. For my last 10 defensive log, 9 of them are TH snipes. Pretty good % rates here

I do not mind if one want to condemn cheap shielding but it irks me that how some farmers condemn one action but aggressively defending his own action by claiming its different and is justified.


P.S. I am a shameless farmer who exploit the game mechanics by leaving out my town hall, sacrificing some useless trophies which I can easily get back with a few raids while protecting my resources for 12 hours

P.S.S I just got another 12 hours shield for a loss of 9 worthless trophies and 1000 gold/1765 elixir. Tough luck to those who hope to get my resources.... I am offering more than 320k gold and elixir....Lol

He is not guaranteed, but does that justify it when it do work? They are obviously doing something that wasn't meant to be done (being attacked by other clan members). Comparing farming with cheap shielding isn't possible since it's 2 very different things, check my previous respons of what a fair comparison would be.

[CunningLinguists]

What if he loses internet connection?

Or goes into battle with only 2 barbarians? Too obvious? How about a specific combination of troop that will never get more than 40% against a maxed base, say 40 giants and 8 wizards?

Then if he "loses" his connection more than twice in a season,then punish him.if he uses an army that wont get more than 40% and then quits at 40% then punish again?I think some said once before that taking away the end battle button once you're at 30% might help?Then its just worrying about if people intentionally lose their connections,However if you lose your connection the battle keeps going so its atleast a lil harder to cheap shield (is that still the case?that the battle keeps going?)

[lim81]

Yeah i think they are 2 totally different things,You cant compare the two as one is obvious and intentional and its designed to keep you on top whereas the other is the opposite.One is a win/win the other is an exploit that ruins the game

Please.... both are obvious and intentional... One wants his trophy and another one to keep his resources safe. Leaving out TH is not an intentional action? The town hall just unintentionally got to that corner of the base on its own?

Getting a base taken out of the match making can be also consider as an exploit of some kind. Just as how some people defines ♥♥♥♥♥ing, there are also others define free TH as exploits.

Sighz... there is no end to this again...

P.S. the win/win argument is ♥♥ to me.... but it seems to be most farmers justification for leaving their town hall out...

[Beerking]

Got to love how the cheap shielding defenders Went from "I'ts pretty much impossible" to "ok it's possible but it's not chéáting" to "ok it's chéáting but you can't prove it".

Hillarious

[Beerking]

Please.... both are obvious and intentional... One wants his trophy and another one to keep his resources safe. Leaving out TH is not an intentional action? The town hall just unintentionally got to that corner of the base on its own?

Getting a base taken out of the match making can be also consider as an exploit of some kind. Just as how some people defines ♥♥♥♥♥ing, there are also others define free TH as exploits.

Sighz... there is no end to this again...

P.S. the win/win argument is ♥♥ to me.... but it seems to be most farmers justification for leaving their town hall out...

No respons on my fair comparison?

It's not possible to compare the two since you can't win Resources on defence.

[rjdofu]

Have we really come to this? The discussion was whether it is right on not, not if I can prove it, again moving the conversation won't help you.

But for the sake of it, In the Mohammed Maher interview that Daddy did, he attacked his own account and stopped the attack at 40%+.
The youtube link I posted in a previous comment of Stier (was no1 for short period of time), he plays with alot of different accounts, you can see his defence log in some of the videos, it's himself attacking his top account (you can see him play with his other accounts in other videos) to get to the number 1 spot.

Got any more arguments?

Cheap or not, that's a part of the tactic. Here's the thing: nothing stops others from using the same method, other than they themselves.

If using multiple account is indeed against the rule, then it's SC job to provide punishment and it should be done already (they've done nothing, though)

If it's not, then who are you to say what he can or cannot do?

[lim81]

He is not guaranteed, but does that justify it when it do work? They are obviously doing something that wasn't meant to be done (being attacked by other clan members). Comparing farming with cheap shielding isn't possible since it's 2 very different things, check my previous respons of what a fair comparison would be.

I saw your response and do not think that was a fair comparision(maybe to you but definitely not for me).... Lol

Defend the farming with town hall outside if you must. I am also exploiting the free town hall at the moment and is happily enjoying my 12 hours shield.

I am not taking sides but just trying to point out to the people who are pointing their fingers at some of the champs action, please take a look at what some of them are doing themselves. Taking their bases out of the match-making prematurely by offering free TH is actually considered as an exploit of some kind as well. At least to me (by my definition).

P.S. of course, to the farmers, they have their own definition/justification and see nothing wrong with what they are doing... Exactly like how champs having their own definition/justication and see nothing wrong with what they are doing...Lol