CHEAP SHIELDING: How does it work? Sign Up to STOP IT!

[CashClash22]

Gosh, Maggie is exasperated!
For good reason!
I think that some forms of cheap shielding are wrong but you cannot take it too far.
Farmers look for a cheap shield every day, and it actually happens to them much more often the champs league players.

[BonbeeTyrael]

Why the F do we farmers care?

I wouldn't be a farmer anymore if there wasn't so much drama at 3600+.

[PredatorBonbeeCanada]

Relying on players to voluntarily stop cheap shielding is never going to work.

The problem lies with the game offence-defence balance. Everyone knows with a quick glance at the top 200 player list - that defence over 3500 cups is pointless. You have little chance of a win, and increasingly less as you rise further.

With this game balance, of course any smart player is going to minimise their real defences - through cheap shields and using the i-mod-game game mod for clash.

The problem lies not with the behaviour, but the incentive to do the behaviour. While defence is so pitiful at those cup levels, players will cheap shield and use game mods. If defence was a viable means of gaining cups at that level, then players would learn defence and not cheap shield... because the only way to be the best would be to be great at offence and defence.

One problem with strengthening defence, is that bases can easily be viewed and copied. So one player makes a great base and the rest of CoC can free ride on a great design - thereby unbalancing the game.

There is a simple solution to this - give players the ability to hide their bases from view. Without this really simple feature, defence can't be greatly strengthened or the game will become unbalanced. With this feature, strong defences are possible (if supercell addresses the current weak defence over 3500 cups) without unbalancing the entire game. And if strong defence is a viable way to gain cups at high levels - then people will no longer have a strong incentive to cheap shield, because the best players will need to be good at both.

Right now with SC's lack of comment on this issue, the idea of fixing cheap shields and having a reasonable balance between attack and defence at the top levels of the game appears a pipe-dream.

But we can always hope they are watching and paying attention

[Jdncnf]

if town hall eights can't talk about loot problems then people not at the top can't talk about the top and in both situation i see why they shouldn't talk about it simply because we don't know the whole thing.

[enviem]

Supercell should just totally remove shields and allow attacks on villages even if the owner is online in the Champion League. And all these problems of cheap shielding and use of third party software to be "always online" will be solved.

[InfinityBladeCOC]

I believe I have addressed you in a previous thread,
but I will patiently address you here again.

1. Revenging is virtually impossible in Champ league now.
   So the days of attacking and reattaching back and forth are over.
   .
2. You assume that it is actually easy for us to find one another up here.
   
   Maybe. Once in awhile.
   But it doesn't happen everyday.
   
   I come from a family of 8 clans - and I am yet to find / be found by anyone in those clans.
   
   In fact, in my 6 weeks of being a Champ, I have found a whooping grand total of (wait for it) THREE Champs that I know;
   and I have only been attacked ONCE by someone that I know.
   
   (In contrast, like I mentioned before, I have skipped Cloud Whisky's M2 base at least 1x a day)

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The little (really, really wishes that people would stop harking about things they know nothing about) Potatroll

You found me at champs

[PredatorBonbeeCanada]

Cheap shielding most likely used to happen a few months ago, but let me tell you how impossible it is to find people you know up here now. Higher up champs (anything over 3400) spend TONS of time in the search queue because we keep finding guys in Masters 1 and 2 who offer a total of 1 cup for a 3-star. Lots of high champs spend over an hour without finding any cup offers over single digits for 3-star. Now THAT is ridiculous.

It's not like Champs just go into search and all of a sudden find each other. We don't.

With the new revenge policy, the player logs offline but is thrown in the search queue BEFORE they can get revenged, so it's very hard to just revenge anybody.

Also, I am NOT losing 30 cups just because I find somebody I know and want to give them a shield. I don't like anybody that much. You know how long it'll take me to make up those 30 cups? I like my cups, thank you very much, as do most other champs up there.

And, I think you have the idea pretty backwards. It's more that the higher champs "cheap shield" the lower champs than the other way around. When I was in 3200-3300, I would hope that some big 3800 guy would find me, and 2 star me for a loss of 4 cups rather than a similar cupped guy finding me and making me lose 30.

Seriously. It's VERY hard to just find each other up here. And even when I do find champs, sometimes the total cup offer is 7 or 8 for a 3-star. Next.

Trust me. We are trying REALLY hard to find each other and we can't (wish we could so I wouldn't be hitting next for 20 minutes).

Just because u cant find fellow champs doesnt mean there isn't cheap shielding...

It occurs at high champ although thats harder now with SC's adjustment to how revenges fall into the search queue.

So unless u are top 200 its not surprising u are not seeing fellow champs that u know.

Bigger problem is the use of game mods to stay online :/ thats not bin fixed it seems

[BonbeeTyrael]

I feel like the title of this thread is misleading. Signing up here won't do anything. Nothing can be done, lol. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

[Sandalhat]

Sandalhat, i sometimes give cheap shields to fellow sky members by taking out their exposed TH.

What do they give me in exchange? Nothing, but i do get league bonuses and can maintain my trophy count in the desired range.

[rjdofu]

This is a war strategy game.

There's no "cheap" way in war, it's all part of the strategy. Who uses it better wins, period.

Not defending fluffy bunny though.