SirColemans's Clan Competitions (Detailed with Pictures!)

[Ytiev]

Wow, caps off to sircoleman for this awsome idea!

[SirColeman]

It is indeed a good idea but it can also ruin the game as it can be seen as a way to donate resources. Let me explain this...

Several weeks ago I had full elixir storages for almost a month so If I am able to create a competition..., I would be donating my elixir excess to my clan mates. And also If I am able, I would select high prizes like 2Million elixir and things like that.

That is why I see this idea like a way of potentially donate resources.

Ways to fix this..., it is difficult but:
- Prizes could be fixed (but again is a way to donate resources)
- Prizes are donated by the participants in the competition. And everybody is forced to donate. I am thinking of a fix amount per participant (to avoid 1 guy donating almost everything) and the winner takes it all (nice song)
- No competition is started unless 50% of the clan, or maybe a fix number (I will leave it to you), 20 guys or more..., donate the resources or no competition starts untill the amount of the prize has been donated.

Another thing about really big prizes; If everybody donates, lets say 100.000 elixir, maybe the prize is too high but..., it is also a good way to create powerfull and disputed competitions (it is a competition, right?? the prize should be high!!!). If the prize is not high, nobody will ever compete. Why I should compete for 200k gold if I can get it in one raid?? But I will definitely compete for 2Million!!

About the gems..., at least in my clan nobody has gems to donate so..., it is a very rare resource. I will remove it from the idea.

Just I few Ideas. In my clan we are making competitions like "I can climb to your thophy range in two days" or "My clan can have more throphys than your clan in one week" so I definitely like your idea and I would like it to be officially implemented but I beleive you should fix these two issues: donate resources issue and really interesting prizes issue.

Best!

All your thoughts are greatly appreciated, it is true, this could count as donating resources but, at the same time it doesn't. Let me explain.

The reason why donating resources is ruled out is because 1, people could filter money from secondary accounts into main accounts. And in this idea there are cooldowns and limited number of people to prevent that. And two, people could store there loot in another account that has a sheild over night. (Which wouldn't work in this idea because of the cooldown. Therefor making this basically a safe donation of resources because there is not a way to abuse it, and your also earning the prizes. I hope you understand what I mean by that.

Also, the amount put into the contest is decided by the leader, and if he doesn't put a very big prize in the pot then I'm sure there would be many complaints with members and some might even leave. So the amount is up to your leader and if he is wise he will make a big prize.

I am am glad you gave me this feedback, but I believe that these problems are already solved. Thanks!

[nipun99]

I have come across some problems in this idea.

1.what if a clan has only 20 members and not too high level(lvl 40-). Leader or a member of the clan holds a competition give away his loots and start the tournament.after doing that most or all the clan members leave the clan and joins a better high level clan.what will happen to the reward?? As you clearly said that it won't be returned.

Solution:-
Anyone who want to enter the competition has to pay an fixed amount of loot assigned by the host as the buy-in( let's say 10000 gold and elixer).once a player buys a buy-in that player will not be allowed to leave the clan or be kicked out till the competition ends.
Once the minimum number of competitors (lets say 15) is met then the loot will be permanently deducted from the players account.if the minimum number of competitors isn't met within 48 hrs the competition is forfited and the loot is returned to the host.

Problems with this idea:-

People can make a clan of 20 players who want to exploit the 48 hour buy in time.they can just hold a competition hold all there loot in the 48 hour loot buffer then no one buys the buy-in so that the competition will get forfeited after 48 hrs and the player will retain all his loot.

I'm thinking some way out of it but your welcome to help me out.

[SirColeman]

I have come across some problems in this idea.

1.what if a clan has only 20 members and not too high level(lvl 40-). Leader or a member of the clan holds a competition give away his loots and start the tournament.after doing that most or all the clan members leave the clan and joins a better high level clan.what will happen to the reward?? As you clearly said that it won't be returned.

Solution:-
Anyone who want to enter the competition has to pay an fixed amount of loot assigned by the host as the buy-in( let's say 10000 gold and elixer).once a player buys a buy-in that player will not be allowed to leave the clan or be kicked out till the competition ends.
Once the minimum number of competitors (lets say 15) is met then the loot will be permanently deducted from the players account.if the minimum number of competitors isn't met within 48 hrs the competition is forfited and the loot is returned to the host.

Great thought, I never thought of this. But I have a better solution rather than that, not that it isn't good but I just don't want to have an idea where you are forced to do things such as stay in a clan, and also this would be a great time for trollers to come in and just keep cussing and spamming and they can't be kicked.

Also, I didn't really want people to have to pay to compete. I think the starter of the competition should be the only one having to pay.

Thanks for this, I have come up with a solution to it and I will add it.

Problems with this idea:-

People can make a clan of 20 players who want to exploit the 48 hour buy in time.they can just hold a competition hold all there loot in the 48 hour loot buffer then no one buys the buy-in so that the competition will get forfeited after 48 hrs and the player will retain all his loot.

This would also be a problem with this idea.

I'm thinking some way out of it but your welcome to help me out.

Thanks for the support! I have another solution, but pointing out that flaw to me will help!

I will edit the whole thread tonight, Recently people have pointed out some great ideas to make this idea better and I will get to work on it right now! Should all be finished later tonight!

[SirColeman]

Thanks to nipun for pointing out a loophole posted above! It is fixed now.

As for the idea of granting permission for someone to start a competition, I figured that would not be needed very much. It is a good thought indeed, but if you trust someone to make a competition you should trust them for co. This would be like an idea for if this was added to game, and people would request for this in the sub-forum.

I figured that most would probably say something such as "I don't think it's needed, doesn't seem very useful." or something along that line.

So it is a good idea but I decided not to add it.

[devinhart12]

Great idea! You did a fantastic job on this!!!

[SirColeman]

Wow, caps off to sircoleman for this awsome idea!

Great idea! You did a fantastic job on this!!!

Thanks for the support guys! Sorry I meant to post this sooner, but I was busy, I have 2 more ideas in the making... I don't think one of them will work though... But I am trying to make it work! So be on a lookout for those threads.

[Gounja]

I think maybe you should be able to have more than one competition going on at once BUT limit how much participants can receive as prizes! Maybe max prize be 1m gold, 1m elixir, 10,000 DE. Just a thought, great idea though. Also, max competitions going on May only be 2 or 3. For clans like mine we have like 7 co-leaders so we could always be having competitions going on to increase activity which would be nice! Hope my input helps!

[VollsRain]

nice idea but main drawback is that the leader needs to pay out of his/her pocket...whats in it for the leader? even if they win, they just get their own money back...no, i think to complement this plan there should be something like the clan treasury where members are required to pool in resources (not gems) every season...

many clans have donation competitions...winners can get their rewards out of this treasury/bank..

even your competition can be paid out from this bank...but to make things more even, there should be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for every category like gold, elixir , de looted or max. xbows,infernos destroyed etc or else one person could dominate the boards and get free loots from other members..

[SirColeman]

I think maybe you should be able to have more than one competition going on at once BUT limit how much participants can receive as prizes! Maybe max prize be 1m gold, 1m elixir, 10,000 DE. Just a thought, great idea though. Also, max competitions going on May only be 2 or 3. For clans like mine we have like 7 co-leaders so we could always be having competitions going on to increase activity which would be nice! Hope my input helps!

Thanks for the support! I admit it would be helpful to have more than 1 going, because a lot of times you have a push, which is good for a competition and at the same time you want top donators! Or when your farming you want a competition for most looted resources, and of course something else as well! I will work on that, thanks!

nice idea but main drawback is that the leader needs to pay out of his/her pocket...whats in it for the leader? even if they win, they just get their own money back...no, i think to complement this plan there should be something like the clan treasury where members are required to pool in resources (not gems) every season...

many clans have donation competitions...winners can get their rewards out of this treasury/bank..

even your competition can be paid out from this bank...but to make things more even, there should be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for every category like gold, elixir , de looted or max. xbows,infernos destroyed etc or else one person could dominate the boards and get free loots from other members..

Nice point, but actually the leader is benefited, say theres a competition for most trophies, that will encourage the clan to push and then the clan will be good! Or most donations makes the clan more active!

And also, there is 1st 2nd and 3rd places, it was one of the major additions I added!

And also, I've thought about all members paying but that might be more like donating resources, but when just the one person gives the loot its not donating resources because the person earns it and theres cool downs so people can't use it for donating resources!


Thanks for pointing these out, but The leader can be benefited, There is 2nd and 3rd place, and every member donating might be more considered as donating resources

Both of you, thanks for support! Well appreciated!