Most Flawed Aspect: Punished for defending

[Wenyan]

If you are maxed, it is very likely that you don't need to save anything, so you don't care about resources, so you can put townhall inside to enjoy the defense lost. For average player, losing 2 million over night is horrible. Not everyone can farm 2 million in one hour. For lots of players, that might be one day's work.

Your base is unrepresentative of 99,9% of all bases, mainly because of the insane scare-factor that level 10 walls bring. There is a wide range of high-end TH9 and early-to-mid TH10 who lose plenty of storages on a serie of attacks.



The 1000 is fairly irrelevant, even multiplied by getting attacked 10-20 times a day. The small resource amount do add up over the months, but this is unrelated to whether or not you put your TH inside.



This is a valid point, trophies for gold. With the new loot rules this has become slightly less attractive in certain ranges because of OP's point. Is it worth to lose 500k or more overnight just to be able to not be bother a 50% here and there?



This is probably the best argument at the least loot loss. Though this only applies to late stage TH9 & TH10.

All in all I see what your saying Howie, but it doesn't really adress the OP's situation, since you're in an very different place from the majority of TH9 and TH10.

[chaddypatch]

I for one, would push a lot more if there were a loot bonus for successful defenses. The loss of resources is a big reason i rarely push. Great points made!

[benr3600]

Must be bad luck but both times I've been attacked with my TH free and clear in the corner, it was 100% ignored.

[ragnus]

Yeah, it's painful. I made a thread very similar to this in the past, which I showed 3 defense.

2 out of 3 were winning defense. The last one was a 100% (due to inferno and xbow out of armo and all traps detonated).

Total cup gain: minus 1.
Gold/Elixir loses: 600k each or something like that.

Pretty ridiculous.

Ur suppose to restock ur traps and towers after an attack

[Wenyan]

sometimes if your TH is in the corner the raider needs to zoom and pan to see it, making it harder to notice and find.

Must be bad luck but both times I've been attacked with my TH free and clear in the corner, it was 100% ignored.

[rjdofu]

Ur suppose to restock ur traps and towers after an attack

I was working.

[dahimi]

No, I disagree. People value trophies. Even farmers try to keep them at a certain level.

But everything associated with defense is bad. Could cost you cups, resources, trap rearm costs, cc troops and hero's. In return you *may* win cups. That is it.

Attack is all positive. You can win cups, steal resources and get a nice league bonus on top.

Even if you make cups somehow more valuable, the smart guys will get those cups from attacks.

One thing both farmers and cup hunters have in common. They don't want a serious attack on their base. The less you defend, the more cups and resources you will probably have.

Which is why farmers throw out th and cuppers try to stay online for hours. Defense just stinks!

No, only a relatively few number of people value trophies. The rest value resources more. They don't care how many trophies they have, they care about the number of trophies that enables them to find the most loot rich and easily accessible bases. For some folks that number is 0 trophies.

The game should be structured so that the best way to obtain loot is to obtain ever higher numbers of trophies. If they did that, people would care about defense and would be delighted when they win a defense which gains them more trophies.

[Inquisitor]

No, I disagree. People value trophies. Even farmers try to keep them at a certain level.

But everything associated with defense is bad. Could cost you cups, resources, trap rearm costs, cc troops and hero's. In return you *may* win cups. That is it.

Attack is all positive. You can win cups, steal resources and get a nice league bonus on top.

Even if you make cups somehow more valuable, the smart guys will get those cups from attacks.

One thing both farmers and cup hunters have in common. They don't want a serious attack on their base. The less you defend, the more cups and resources you will probably have.

Which is why farmers throw out th and cuppers try to stay online for hours. Defense just stinks!

99.9% of farmers in Gold dont give a damn about trophies.

Only in Crystal 2 and above, trophies become meaningful.

[BadBeans]

My Suggestions:

1.) Make the townhall a storage building. What I'm saying it as you upgrade through the levels it stores more gold and elixir until it equals a combined fully maxed gold/elixir/dark elixir storage building. This will make players more likely to protect it. Plus keep all the currently associated benefits.

2.) Make a gold/elixir bonus for defending wins equal to your league. This added with the top suggestion will go a long way to helping people want to defend.

3.) Add a short defense shield like 3 hours long for a successful defense.

[CLashCoolDude]

This is a great thread.