Julian's idea for CLAN REWARDS!!!!! DETAILED and IN DEPTH analysis/proposal!!!!!

[Jgiles]

If I were to make a clan and close it then i would be getting lots of gems for doing absoluteley nothing except waiting, i think it should only come into action once a clan has 20 members or 10 like a clan war to avoid even more one man clans because they already clog up the search results as it is...... I mean if there was no global leaderboard could you find the REAL quantums web, mega, kings rock etc

With every great thing people will try to exploit it, it is the sixth human sense.

[Saltin]

If I were to make a clan and close it then i would be getting lots of gems for doing absoluteley nothing except waiting, i think it should only come into action once a clan has 20 members or 10 like a clan war to avoid even more one man clans because they already clog up the search results as it is...... I mean if there was no global leaderboard could you find the REAL quantums web, mega, kings rock etc

With every great thing people will try to exploit it, it is the sixth human sense.

Did you even read the OP?
Julez specifically said "YOU MUST AT LEAST have 10 people in your clan for clan rewards to be given"
Scroll down to section 2.2, it has all your information answered.

Read before bashing this idea, it is your fault because YOU did NOT decide to read his post.

[Julezwatts]

If I were to make a clan and close it then i would be getting lots of gems for doing absoluteley nothing except waiting, i think it should only come into action once a clan has 20 members or 10 like a clan war to avoid even more one man clans because they already clog up the search results as it is...... I mean if there was no global leaderboard could you find the REAL quantums web, mega, kings rock etc

With every great thing people will try to exploit it, it is the sixth human sense.

If you were to read the bolded parts of the thread, I think you'll find that your concern has been addressed multiple times.

Did you even read the OP?
Julez specifically said "YOU MUST AT LEAST have 10 people in your clan for clan rewards to be given"
Scroll down to section 2.2, it has all your information answered.

Read before bashing this idea, it is your fault because YOU did NOT decide to read his post.

Thanks saltin. Pretty intense response lol.

[JackM]

You likely already addressed it, but would Coleaders be able to give out badges too?

[StynaMN]

This is a great idea, and I think Supercell should have a similar system in place currently! But, I just had a thought for you to consider:

Experience Levels are virtually useless at the moment, but they do offer a very accurate representation of how strong the player is. For example, you could say most TH7s are in the 50-70 range, and be correct 95% of the time.

Now for my idea: I think that this reward system could be improved by increasing the reward based on Experience Level range. Let's say:

1. Lv1 - Lv30: 10;9;7 (As you proposed)
2. Lv31 - Lv50: 20;15;10
3. Lv51 - Lv70: 50;35;20
4. Lv71 - Lv120: 75;60;50
5. Lv121+: 100;85;75

The reason for this incremental increase would be to even out the fact that for a TH10 (on average, TH10s are in the Lv121+ category), 7 gems does literally nothing. They can't train almost any high-tier troop, and building costs are getting into the thousands of gems in order to complete. The only issue, though, would be whether or not Supercell would be willing to give out these high amounts of gems, because for the 'Highest Donator' award alone, in the highest category, they'd be losing $1 per clan.

However, the 'Best Member' reward, being solely based off of opinion, should be around 10 gems just as a little perk for being a productive member.

Let me know what you think, and again, this is a brilliant idea!

[NeuralFusion]

Here is an issue already that will break the game..
You say:

"The biggest issue with any gem reward within a clan is the threat of it being able to be exploited. To combat this, awards and badges (Both leader and automatically awarded) only become available after 10 members have joined the clan. This is to prevent one or two member clans that consist of fake accounts for the purpose of gaining the gems that are awarded from badges."

What will happen when I get a group of 30 friends who wanna keep making 15space clans to get free gems over and over and over again? Cause I can do that right now, I've got 30 people lined up who will pay IGG to create a clan to get free gems.

Hell, Ive got 1.8mil gold ready to spend on making new clans to do this =]
Also, Are the gems given by leader or automatically given? I don't see that -
When are they given? If given at the end of a season, I think it could be more controlled.


However, I like the whole badge Idea, I think it would add a whole new social aspect to the game - More clans will start doing clan competitions(which I do for my clan already)



After scrolling through and reading some comments:

I completely disagree- having a standard for the 'best' makes members in a clan strive to achieve the badge and the reward, which drives your clan and your members to greater heights and more activity.

I find the rest of the idea highly desirable, as do many others. The idea of leaders awarding certain badges and gem rewards attached to automatically awarded badges just increases the clan 'push' for achieving greater heights. There really is no way to 'slim it down'.

I have to agree completely on the bolded. I just recently had a competition for my clan, a donation competition, and I had members neck and neck desperately trying to get in donations first, and when I awarded the top 3 members, everyone was more active and asking when the next competition would be.

[Julezwatts]

This is a great idea, and I think Supercell should have a similar system in place currently! But, I just had a thought for you to consider:

Experience Levels are virtually useless at the moment, but they do offer a very accurate representation of how strong the player is. For example, you could say most TH7s are in the 50-70 range, and be correct 95% of the time.

Now for my idea: I think that this reward system could be improved by increasing the reward based on Experience Level range. Let's say:

1. Lv1 - Lv30: 10;9;7 (As you proposed)
2. Lv31 - Lv50: 20;15;10
3. Lv51 - Lv70: 50;35;20
4. Lv71 - Lv120: 75;60;50
5. Lv121+: 100;85;75

The reason for this incremental increase would be to even out the fact that for a TH10 (on average, TH10s are in the Lv121+ category), 7 gems does literally nothing. They can't train almost any high-tier troop, and building costs are getting into the thousands of gems in order to complete. The only issue, though, would be whether or not Supercell would be willing to give out these high amounts of gems, because for the 'Highest Donator' award alone, in the highest category, they'd be losing $1 per clan.

However, the 'Best Member' reward, being solely based off of opinion, should be around 10 gems just as a little perk for being a productive member.

Let me know what you think, and again, this is a brilliant idea!

Good point about levels, I will probably do some tweaks an implement it.

However, any awards that are awarded by the leader cannot carry a gem reward, as it can then be exploited by the leader constantly awarding it to him/herself and getting the gems over and over.

[Julezwatts]

Here is an issue already that will break the game..
You say:

"The biggest issue with any gem reward within a clan is the threat of it being able to be exploited. To combat this, awards and badges (Both leader and automatically awarded) only become available after 10 members have joined the clan. This is to prevent one or two member clans that consist of fake accounts for the purpose of gaining the gems that are awarded from badges."

What will happen when I get a group of 30 friends who wanna keep making 15space clans to get free gems over and over and over again? Cause I can do that right now, I've got 30 people lined up who will pay IGG to create a clan to get free gems.

Hell, Ive got 1.8mil gold ready to spend on making new clans to do this =]
Also, Are the gems given by leader or automatically given? I don't see that -
When are they given? If given at the end of a season, I think it could be more controlled.


However, I like the whole badge Idea, I think it would add a whole new social aspect to the game - More clans will start doing clan competitions(which I do for my clan already)



After scrolling through and reading some comments:


I have to agree completely on the bolded. I just recently had a competition for my clan, a donation competition, and I had members neck and neck desperately trying to get in donations first, and when I awarded the top 3 members, everyone was more active and asking when the next competition would be.

It is stated multiple times in the thread that leader awarded badges do NOT carry a gem reward.

The situation that you stated, of having 30 friends make an account, play for 3-4 days until they can get a clan castle, and then just join the clan so you can get free gems, is a possible scenario, but one I don't think will really be that widely used. I mean think about it, for all the hassle of doing that, wouldn't it be much easier to just buy the gems? Especially considering that, in retrospect, the gem amounts that are rewarded are really quite small.

[NeuralFusion]

It is stated multiple times in the thread that leader awarded badges do NOT carry a gem reward.

The situation that you stated, of having 30 friends make an account, play for 3-4 days until they can get a clan castle, and then just join the clan so you can get free gems, is a possible scenario, but one I don't think will really be that widely used. I mean think about it, for all the hassle of doing that, wouldn't it be much easier to just buy the gems? Especially considering that, in retrospect, the gem amounts that are rewarded are really quite small.

Easier yes, but what about the people who cant afford gems and have gold storages packed with money?

I will indeed do this over and over agian to get free gems.. I mean, 40K to create a clan is NOTHING.. Hell, I get 55k win bonus so I'll just TH snipe each time I want a new clan to get free gems..

Again, NOT putting down the idea - Just stating that if you don't find a way to stop this abuse from happening, it WILL happen.

*Edit*

I am supportive of this idea in full, so long that there is a way to STOP this from being abused..

[Julezwatts]

Easier yes, but what about the people who cant afford gems and have gold storages packed with money?

I will indeed do this over and over agian to get free gems.. I mean, 40K to create a clan is NOTHING.. Hell, I get 55k win bonus so I'll just TH snipe each time I want a new clan to get free gems..

Again, NOT putting down the idea - Just stating that if you don't find a way to stop this abuse from happening, it WILL happen.

*Edit*

I am supportive of this idea in full, so long that there is a way to STOP this from being abused..

Ok then... Perhaps the rewards are only available if there are at least 10 ACTIVE players in a clan?

(Activity can be determined by league shields at the beginning of each new season)