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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    yes public why?
    Ok so 197-72, not bad at all, but you should slow the talk about other clans here being dumb and mediocre. You’ll find that record is nothing special here, same for the streaks.

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    yes well you can see why its frustrating. ussually we win most our wars easily, and our last 2 losses were mistakes on our part not bad matchmaking but this. this is matchmaking almost setting us up to fail. like last time 29 win streak and a fair defeat but this is a joke
    especially since all of our members play for the winstreak, we dont give a damn about CWL we dont give a damn about any of it, all we play for is winstreak and fun fair wars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    yes well you can see why its frustrating. ussually we win most our wars easily, and our last 2 losses were mistakes on our part not bad matchmaking but this. this is matchmaking almost setting us up to fail. like last time 29 win streak and a fair defeat but this is a joke
    especially since all of our members play for the winstreak, we dont give a damn about CWL we dont give a damn about any of it, all we play for is winstreak and fun fair wars
    My own clan is about 600-150 and that’s nothing compared to some others here. You will find there are some serious war players here. As for your streaks, you can’t use all that engineering to try to get uneven matches in your favor and then complain when one is against you a bit, especially when it is definitely winnable. Given how easy you think th13 is, you should be able to get 100% and they likely won’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    nvm who cares nothing will ever be done to fix this from happening, our clan plays for win streaks and if this is how we are going to lose it then there is no point playing, our clan has pretty much decided its the end of the path for us we can do everything but when this broke game decides to do a number on us theres nothing we can do, and its completely unfair matchup
    Share it with all of them to keep mines & collectors outside for easy loot. Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    we have
    2 maxed 13s
    1 half way to max 13
    1 maxed th12
    13 th11s ( 2 without eagle)
    2 th10s

    they have 3 maxed th13s
    3 maxed th12s
    14 th11s' of which a far larger portion are maxed than ours

    tell me at which th do we have the advantage?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    winnable? yes
    fair? absolutely not.
    you shouldnt be trying to reason how this is a fair matchup being a "game specialist" lol
    IMV, 2222 is correct.. You set yourself up with your breakdown.
    You only listed 19 accounts.. That missing hall would be interesting.

    But you go 3v3 on 13s, only carry a single 12, then its 11s all the way down to the bottom 2.. Which will likely have little effect on the match.. Those 10s neither carry weight to impact on the draw, nor do they distort the matching pattern, since you carry a low spread.

    Given that there is only 20k weight difference between new and max TH11, 10k gold weight between THs 11 and 12, and between levels 12 and 13 also, then there aint much wiggle room with the MMA.

    You roster is predominantly TH11, so the MMA quite likely found major similarities between the 2 rosters.. It dont just use weights.
    As said, that and the top hall match run close parallels, albeit that you have accounts holding back on big ticket drops..

    With your total weight, first step in my view should be to shore up defensively.. Those missing eagles wont help much with the draw, and can hurt lots, as shown with this draw.
    A closed log means previous wars cant be viewed to discern the normal matching pattern and quality.

    i havent looked, but will guess those non eagle bases are carrying heavy offence and heroes.. And even tho offense weight is hidden, I guess the effect/weight addition will be similar to a greater degree to defensive weight..
    So all you got missing in reality is a couple of eagles and some account progression.

    I do agree that nowhere on the roster do you have advantage, but then again the draw is made full roster vs full roster..
    And if the roster isnt balanced, then the usual expected shift of weight distribution may not happen.

    It may look bad to you, but at face value it doesn't look so bad to others, and is certainly not the "worst matchup ever"..
    In fact the draw is quite understandable.

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    Don't know whether this is trolling or not, benefit of the doubt etc.

    There are two general things that'll get you poor matches (rule of thumbs really):

    High roster spread and large roster gaps. You have both.
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    https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...ght-compendium

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    yes well you can see why its frustrating. ussually we win most our wars easily, and our last 2 losses were mistakes on our part not bad matchmaking but this. this is matchmaking almost setting us up to fail. like last time 29 win streak and a fair defeat but this is a joke
    especially since all of our members play for the winstreak, we dont give a damn about CWL we dont give a damn about any of it, all we play for is winstreak and fun fair wars
    No, you don't play for fair wars. You wouldn't win most of your wars easily if they were fair. You have set up your clan to take advantage of the matchmaking, so most of your wars are somewhat unfair in your favour.

    You are playing for the winstreak, which is perfectly reasonable. But it is almost impossible to get win streaks that long with mostly "fair" wars.

    If you were matching clans which were pretty close to yours both offensively and defensively, then as your winstreak gets longer, you would be matching other clans with similar recent winning ratios, so that would mean they would be of similar skill levels as well.

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    Yes rosters aren’t the end all to a war, we’ve had 3 max 13s vs 5 13s and won. It’s all about hit allocation and being smart. Lower guys clear their targets and the top guys get maximum hits on top targets. It’s never fun, but definitely winnable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosecoc View Post
    ussually we win most our wars easily,

    fun fair wars
    Which is it? You match ‘fun fair wars’? Or do you ‘usually win easily’?

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    Lucky for you, TH13 is just so easy, your Top 3 TH13 will 3 star your opponents with ease, (TH13 is just so easy based on another post you did), and your TH13’s 2nd hits can 3 star elsewhere too.

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